Mark Whipple Officially Named Offensive Coordinator + Quarterbacks Coach

Not to mention the OC and quarterbacks coach of a Heisman finalist, and not only that, but a Heisman finalist who developed into a Heisman finalist and wasn't a pure phenom from day 1.
Pickett reached out to Peyton Manning after last season to ask about coming out in 2020 or staying.  Peyton said rumors were Pickett was a 5th round pick.  Asked Pickett if that was the type of player he was.  Pickett said no, came back, showed up and showed put.  

 
Again, reenforces a guy who uses what he has.  Not what he wants.  I would say that the "better" skill position guys would be the WR's and TE's.  This plays into Whipple's schemes.  Throw in Joseph coaching them up and I think we can have a potent offense depending on QB and OL play.  I do think that he is smart enough to embrace the running game as well.  Dude doesn't spend that much time coaching and not learn to adapt/evolve.  I like that he has a scheme and is well versed in it.  Again, I'd prefer a "run first" guy, but I want to win again.  In the current situation with a potential 1 season HC we could do worse.  Don't think we could have done much better.  

 
Wondering, if the hiring of Whipple & Joseph has Haarberg and Torres (commit) a little more excited?
They sure fit the bill.  I’m guessing Whipple is just as excited.  This is great opportunity for him to be a part of a legendary program in its resurrection and revival.  He has chance to become a household name nationally.  He will get lots of attn this fall no doubt.  

 
I like that he has a scheme and is well versed in it.  Again, I'd prefer a "run first" guy, but I want to win again.  In the current situation with a potential 1 season HC we could do worse.  Don't think we could have done much better.  


That's pretty much where I'm at. I'm definitely wary of Whipple being a pass-happy guy. But Frost wants an experienced guy he can trust to hand the reins to, and Whipple fits the bill. And bringing in an OC whose team just won the ACC and who coached up a Heisman finalist QB is about as big of a 'splash hire' as we could realistically hope for.

 
Some thoughts that may not be related to the more recent discussion in this thread.

We're just in such a weird position; we went 3-9, so it would almost be hard to not do better than we did this season. But the bar is so obviously much higher than "just doing better than 3-9."

When Walters was fired and Lubick was brought in I said that I didn't think the move would make that much of a difference on offense. And it wasn't because I thought Lubick was a bad coach - I thought he was a good coach and I still do.

But I'm pretty sure I was right about that call, changing OCs didn't really put a dent in the outcome of games because it was more about turnovers and poor offensive line play then, and it still is now.

Now I'm asking basically the same question again: How much does adding Mark Whipple really do for the W/L column? I saw a post that was quoting some social media post or YouTube video saying something along the lines of "Mark Whipple is the kind of addition that will make this offense score 50 points per game."

I just really, really doubt that...

 
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Some thoughts that may not be related to the more recent discussion in this thread.

We're just in such a weird position; we went 3-9, so it would almost be hard to not do better than we did this season. But the bar is so obviously much higher than "just doing better than 3-9."

When Walters was fired and Lubick was brought in I said that I didn't think the move would make that much of a difference on offense. And it wasn't because I thought Lubick was a bad coach - I thought he was a good coach and I still do.

But I'm pretty sure I was right about that call, changing OCs didn't really put a dent in the outcome of games because it was more about turnovers and poor offensive line play then, and it still is now.

Now I'm asking basically the same question again: How much does adding Mark Whipple really do for the W/L column? I saw a post that was quoting some social media post or YouTube video saying something along the lines of "Mark Whipple is the kind of addition that will make this offense score 50 points per game."

I just really, really doubt that...
I don't see anyone scoring 50 points per game in the Big 10.  

 
I don't see anyone scoring 50 points per game in the Big 10.  
Yeah, there's too many teams that love to chew up clock, punt the ball, kick field goals, play action pass for 15 yards (over the top!). 

And if you do score 40, the rest of the game.. (see above with extra running).

 
Some thoughts that may not be related to the more recent discussion in this thread.

We're just in such a weird position; we went 3-9, so it would almost be hard to not do better than we did this season. But the bar is so obviously much higher than "just doing better than 3-9."

When Walters was fired and Lubick was brought in I said that I didn't think the move would make that much of a difference on offense. And it wasn't because I thought Lubick was a bad coach - I thought he was a good coach and I still do.

But I'm pretty sure I was right about that call, changing OCs didn't really put a dent in the outcome of games because it was more about turnovers and poor offensive line play then, and it still is now.

Now I'm asking basically the same question again: How much does adding Mark Whipple really do for the W/L column? I saw a post that was quoting some social media post or YouTube video saying something along the lines of "Mark Whipple is the kind of addition that will make this offense score 50 points per game."

I just really, really doubt that...
It's much more reliant on improved line play and ST that's going to make the biggest difference in W/L.  That is, if we don't have a drastic drop in D or O.

 
Some thoughts that may not be related to the more recent discussion in this thread.

We're just in such a weird position; we went 3-9, so it would almost be hard to not do better than we did this season. But the bar is so obviously much higher than "just doing better than 3-9."

When Walters was fired and Lubick was brought in I said that I didn't think the move would make that much of a difference on offense. And it wasn't because I thought Lubick was a bad coach - I thought he was a good coach and I still do.

But I'm pretty sure I was right about that call, changing OCs didn't really put a dent in the outcome of games because it was more about turnovers and poor offensive line play then, and it still is now.

Now I'm asking basically the same question again: How much does adding Mark Whipple really do for the W/L column? I saw a post that was quoting some social media post or YouTube video saying something along the lines of "Mark Whipple is the kind of addition that will make this offense score 50 points per game."

I just really, really doubt that...
50 is a reach. With an upgrade in receivers coaching with better quarterback play and an offensive line with their act together 35-40 and occasionally more is realistic. We need to generate a reliable running game for conversions too. That's a lot of if's but if we can do that'll we'll be winning a lot more games.

It seems his scheming is less complicated which should be helpful. That's the impression I'm getting anyway. He does need good quarterbacking. 

 
I don't see anyone scoring 50 points per game in the Big 10.  


Good point.

Putting that hyperbole of 50 points aside thought, again I'm not really sure that Whipple puts much of a dent into the outcome of next year's season.

But, it seems more and more like he's a good hire.

 
Some thoughts that may not be related to the more recent discussion in this thread.

We're just in such a weird position; we went 3-9, so it would almost be hard to not do better than we did this season. But the bar is so obviously much higher than "just doing better than 3-9."

When Walters was fired and Lubick was brought in I said that I didn't think the move would make that much of a difference on offense. And it wasn't because I thought Lubick was a bad coach - I thought he was a good coach and I still do.

But I'm pretty sure I was right about that call, changing OCs didn't really put a dent in the outcome of games because it was more about turnovers and poor offensive line play then, and it still is now.

Now I'm asking basically the same question again: How much does adding Mark Whipple really do for the W/L column? I saw a post that was quoting some social media post or YouTube video saying something along the lines of "Mark Whipple is the kind of addition that will make this offense score 50 points per game."

I just really, really doubt that...
As far as I can see, based on who the new coaches are, the main benefits here that will address specific weaknesses are: attention to detail on offense, better recruiting at skill positions, and hopefully better line technique. It could also help with a true identity on offense and an ability to counter opponent adjustments. 

so for me, if everything else stays the same, that means an additional 3 wins at a minimum. 
 

These changes so far do not address the issues of defensive inconsistencies at times, special teams, head coach maturity, head coach ownership and accountability, and proper roster management. 

 
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