The Courts (not specific to either party)

Danny Bateman said:
I've noticed Republicans play this game A LOT.

People have well-justified concerns about some of the increasingly extremist positions the GOP holds on various issues. Defenders swoop in to cry foul and claim anyone with those fears are just being hyperbolic alarmists.

Just like the did with Roe. "They said it's settled law. Worrying about Roe is ridiculous."

Then it happens and nobody owns up to anything they said before.

Claiming they won't go after Griswold or Eisenstadt (which enshrine the right to contraceptives) on the basis "Alito said he won't" is lunacy.

Because, like the vast majority of politicians, the conservatives on SCOTUS are gutless liars and hypocrites who only care about the power they can wield and to what ends.
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They did this when we called out McConnell for failing to hold hearings on Obama's nominee, then crammed ACB down our throat. We told them this would happen and they claimed it was hysterics or whatever.

It's all part of the christofascist playbook.

 
Archy1221 said:
You ok?!?  One would assume that just because I consider the morning after pill a contraceptive based off an either or choice you gave, doesn’t mean a state or others consider it a contraceptive.  
 

BTW…..you do this a lot, as in get things wrong.  Notice it’s not banned?  

https://www.womenshealthmag.com/health/a39945228/plan-b-ban/
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The Mayo clinic considers it a contraceptive….
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/morning-after-pill/about/pac-20394730

but what do they know? We should probably use your women’s magazine source.  I wonder how Sports Illustrated categorizes it  :lol:

 
Maybe the solution is to inform republicans that the Republic of Gilead in The Handmaid’s Tale is is in fact a fictional futuristic dystopian society and NOT a how to guide.  :dunno

 
JJ Husker said:
The Mayo clinic considers it a contraceptive….
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/morning-after-pill/about/pac-20394730

but what do they know? We should probably use your women’s magazine source.  I wonder how Sports Illustrated categorizes it  :lol:
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JJ Husker said:
The Mayo clinic considers it a contraceptive….
https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/morning-after-pill/about/pac-20394730

but what do they know? We should probably use your women’s magazine source.  I wonder how Sports Illustrated categorizes it  :lol:
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How exactly does what the Mayo Clinic says pertain to no States having it banned?  Which is kinda what I said if you followed along from the beginning.  If

You don’t like the womens magazine I guess you can read these (or sports illustrated, whatever floats your boat).  You will probably notice that it isn’t banned, which again, is what I said earlier.  
 

If these don’t work out for ya, just let me know what source you would like. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/06/24/plan-b-what-you-need-know/7567434001/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna35289

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/05/plan-b-pills-still-legal-in-tennessee-and-missouri-contrary-to-social-media-claims/

 
The abortion rate actually went down after Roe v Wade. Planned Parenthood did a lot more education and contraceptive work than they ever did abortions. Making abortion illegal didn't stop abortions then and it won't now. It will just come down hard on the poor and the brown skinned, and open a nightmare of legal and judicial enforcement on agencies that can't afford the workload. It's a moral problem, sure. It's also a social and logistical problem that going to fester immediately.

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
The abortion rate actually went down after Roe v Wade. Planned Parenthood did a lot more education and contraceptive work than they ever did abortions. Making abortion illegal didn't stop abortions then and it won't now. It will just come down hard on the poor and the brown skinned, and open a nightmare of legal and judicial enforcement on agencies that can't afford the workload. It's a moral problem, sure. It's also a social and logistical problem that going to fester immediately.
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Come on, you know Conservatives don't care about ether poor and brown skinned. 

 
Archy1221 said:
How exactly does what the Mayo Clinic says pertain to no States having it banned?  Which is kinda what I said if you followed along from the beginning.  If

You don’t like the womens magazine I guess you can read these (or sports illustrated, whatever floats your boat).  You will probably notice that it isn’t banned, which again, is what I said earlier.  
 

If these don’t work out for ya, just let me know what source you would like. 

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2022/06/24/plan-b-what-you-need-know/7567434001/

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna35289

https://www.factcheck.org/2022/05/plan-b-pills-still-legal-in-tennessee-and-missouri-contrary-to-social-media-claims/
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Did I say it had already been banned? No I didn’t. The SC ruling on RvW just became official. You have to have your head buried pretty deep in the sand to not realize it’s just around the corner. Texas, Louisiana, Idaho and other backwards places have already been working towards banning Plan B and IUDs, which we both and medical experts agree are contraceptives. Many states are also attempting to redefine human being, life, pregnancy, etc. so they can then label contraceptives as an abortion. I mean sure, if you want to be naive, you can continue to claim it hasn’t been banned yet but reasonable folks know it’s only a matter of short time with RvW overturned.

https://nwlc.org/resource/dont-be-fooled-birth-control-is-already-at-risk/

 
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JJ Husker said:
So then we’re in agreement? At least some contraceptives are highly likely to be banned very soon because of this ruling?
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LOL….no.  We are in agreement FINALLY of my first statement about contraceptives not being banned by SCOTUS.  Which you have been arguing about and now finally agree also.  

 
Archy1221 said:
LOL….no.  We are in agreement FINALLY of my first statement about contraceptives not being banned by SCOTUS.  Which you have been arguing about and now finally agree also.  
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Oh, so you don’t agree or realize that many states will now make certain forms of contraceptives illegal?  And we’re supposed to pretend that you bring something  valuable to the discussion….. :lol:

Part of the deal is being able to recognize cause and effect. Any moron can figure out what is currently. Heck Google can do that job. It’s much more helpful if a person can figure out what their vote is likely to cause. Condolences, I guess.

 
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