Roe v Wade overturned????? Draft says so

Do you agree wt the draft majority opinion

  • Yes

    Votes: 7 20.0%

  • No

    Votes: 28 80.0%

  • Not sure

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    35
"The ban includes limited exceptions, including in cases of rape and incest, and to protect the life and physical health of the mother. 

The exceptions for rape and incest are limited to 10 weeks post-fertilization, meaning victims could not get an abortion in Indiana after that. "

 
DevoHusker said:
"The ban includes limited exceptions, including in cases of rape and incest, and to protect the life and physical health of the mother. 

The exceptions for rape and incest are limited to 10 weeks post-fertilization, meaning victims could not get an abortion in Indiana after that. "
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So a rape victim has to overcome all the shame and stigma, all the challenges to her credibility, all the legal obstructions that can arise to her claim by religious zealots, before she can get basic human healthcare.

No other first-world nation has such obstructions. It's a horror show in America right now.

 
knapplc said:
So a rape victim has to overcome all the shame and stigma, all the challenges to her credibility, all the legal obstructions that can arise to her claim by religious zealots, before she can get basic human healthcare.

No other first-world nation has such obstructions. It's a horror show in America right now.
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The ACLU tweet said "ban". I provided data from the article that indicates its not. And, the Governor has to sign it, which may or may not happen.

I agree with your arguments that rape victims should not be subjected to further trauma.

 
DevoHusker said:
"The ban includes limited exceptions, including in cases of rape and incest, and to protect the life and physical health of the mother. 

The exceptions for rape and incest are limited to 10 weeks post-fertilization, meaning victims could not get an abortion in Indiana after that. "
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How do they determine if the claim of rape or incest is real?

Can anyone just say they were raped? Or do they need to have someone found guilty in the justice system within 10 weeks?

 
Lorewarn said:
How do they determine if the claim of rape or incest is real?

Can anyone just say they were raped? Or do they need to have someone found guilty in the justice system within 10 weeks?
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What are 3 questions the government shouldn’t be asking anyone?

How do they square this s#!t with  HIPAA? Sorry but it is nobody’s GD business when a woman’s last period was or what happened at her obgyn appointment.

I don’t like abortion being used for birth control and I don’t like the idea of late term abortions but, ya know what, it doesn’t matter what I or anyone else thinks or likes. Stay the F out of our private lives Republicans.

 
JJ Husker said:
What are 3 questions the government shouldn’t be asking anyone?

How do they square this s#!t with  HIPAA? Sorry but it is nobody’s GD business when a woman’s last period was or what happened at her obgyn appointment.

I don’t like abortion being used for birth control and I don’t like the idea of late term abortions but, ya know what, it doesn’t matter what I or anyone else thinks or likes. Stay the F out of our private lives Republicans.
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So, I think everyone would probably agree that the following countries are viewed as very religious when it comes to practicing Christianity: Mexico, Ireland, Spain, and Greece.

How f#&%ed up is it that they all have less strick laws on abortion than Indiana? All of them allow legal abortion up to 12 weeks with no restrictions.

 
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ZRod said:
So, I think everyone would probably agree that the following countries are viewed as very religious when it comes to practicing Christianity: Mexico, Ireland, Spain, and Greece.

How f#&%ed up is it that they all have less strick laws on abortion than Indiana? All of them allow legal abortion up to 12 weeks with no restrictions.
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I used to say I was anti abortion. Then I said I was pro life. 

Now, with help from @teachercd

and others, I admit I am pro choice "with restrictions".

Over 90% of abortions fall into the just because category.

I hope that they can somehow codify...safe/legal/rare but allow choice to 10 or 12 weeks...just like the other nations you mentioned.

 
DevoHusker said:
I used to say I was anti abortion. Then I said I was pro life. 

Now, with help from @teachercd

and others, I admit I am pro choice "with restrictions".

Over 90% of abortions fall into the just because category.

I hope that they can somehow codify...safe/legal/rare but allow choice to 10 or 12 weeks...just like the other nations you mentioned.
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We've been "pro-life" vs "pro-choice" for so long; but we've pretty much always agreed for the most part.  I'm starting to be thankful for RvW to be gone just so we can rip this bandaid off!

Even my wife, who is very, very, very prochoice.  Can agree that "just because" abortions can be done within 12-16 weeks.

But laws do need to be clear so women facing health issues or babies with abnormalities incompatible with life will never be questioned.  Making doctors 2nd guess treatments in possible emergencies is ridiculous!

It's anecdotal, but there was a woman in Texas that went in with an ectopic pregnancy and almost bled out because the Dr's in the ER weren't sure what was legal to do or not.

 
So, after you've raped your daughter, here's an easy and convenient place to hide the evidence.

This is just amazingly heinous. They know what they're doing.


 
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