RedDenver
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It's the one thing that gives me some hope if we do end up hiring Urban, but it was also 20 years ago and Utah was in the Mountain West Conference.He was only at Utah for that amount of time.
It's the one thing that gives me some hope if we do end up hiring Urban, but it was also 20 years ago and Utah was in the Mountain West Conference.He was only at Utah for that amount of time.
They need to get bigger guys to develop not the 6'2 280 defensive tackle.I say a rebuild either through existing player development or new players. It’s likely some of both. It’s painfully obvious our LBs are not conference material. Not sure they would start on my son’s HS team. Could someone come in and develop some of the DL and secondary? I think probably.
Which means that Utah was actually in the Mountain West conference. It is part of why I am leery of Campbell and his just over 500 record. As a coach, you are what your results are. Anymore, in college football, the team you coach is playing other similar level teams. So, your prowess as a coach is what it is. You win a lot of games in the Sun Belt, chances are you could win games at a more major conference, although that is not a given.. You go .500 in the Sun Belt, chances are you aren't going to do a lot better in a major conference.Utah was in the Mountain West Conference.
I’d argue more athleticism is needed. Plenty of big guys right now but too slow and no football IQ.They need to get bigger guys to develop not the 6'2 280 defensive tackle.
I thought we'd be able to sell a team with a lot of quality players that haven't been getting put in position to win. After the last two games I'm more convinced that this is basically a complete rebuild. We're possibly going to have to convince a coach to try and come and take over a 2-10 team with horrible lines on both sides of the ball. Which sucks because I'd argue it'd be easier to pluck a couple skill players from the portal but it takes years to build quality and depth on the lines. It just seems that the extra year of keeping Frost and this staff is going to set us back for years regardless of who comes in next.After today we are for sure in a rebuild. Yes we have some skill goys but no enough. The lines are terrible and have not been developed with sufficient depth
I think it just takes the right type of coach and his staff to recruit here. If you go look at Scott Frost first recruiting class 2018 there was all that buzz bc of UCF beating Auburn and going undefeated but more then half of those guys are long gone(transferred out, getting kicked off the team, never making it here bc of grades.) Thats what not only hurt him but when you don't have great recruiters and you bring in average guys the following cycle and you have at best average coaches your going to suffer tremendously. Average coaching staffs won't and don't work here and never will. SF struck out on alot of kids bc he lost his buzz along time ago and bc he didn't surround himself with the best possible staff. He was too young in his coaching career to get well respected coaches to help turn us around.We are Kansas and that is an insult to the present day Kansas. A new coach will need to recognize this and be prepared for a total rebuild
I can’t believe that under one of our own we fell to this depth. All of the coach speak was smoke & mirrors to divert our attention away from his lack of attention to details, discipline and putting in the work to build the team. As a fan I feel cheated and abused
Urban is also a creepy groper who made a bad Jacksonville team way worse. What makes you think he would take this job after what happened in Jacksonville? He needs assured success otherwise he is better off as a mythical being who turns any college program into a national powerhouse.Urban did it in a lot of conferences. If I'm betting, I'd put my money on that.
Urban is also a creepy groper who made a bad Jacksonville team way worse. What makes you think he would take this job after what happened in Jacksonville? He needs assured success otherwise he is better off as a mythical being who turns any college program into a national powerhouse.
He was an up an coming coach trying to cut his teeth when he was coaching for Bowling Green and Utah. Now he has a reputation to uphold and after Jacksonville he can't afford another failure. If you think Sabans stint with the Dolphins is the same as Jacksonville last year maybe its time you refresh your memory. Saban wasn't fired from the Dolphins, he accepted the Alabama job after going 9-7 and 6-10. A far cry from Meyers time in the NFL. And frankly, the Nebraska job is a far cry from the Alabama job. Its easier at Bama plain and simple.I guess you never heard of a guy named Nick Saban? He didn't exactly knock it out of the park with the Dolphins. College football is a totally different animal from the NFL. NFL success has zero correlation to college success. As for your "assured success" remark, how exactly was he assured success at Bowling Green and Utah?