Who should our next HC be?
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PasstheDamnBallGuy
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The only issue is that is pretty easily debunked since Georgia, Ohio State, Clemson, Baylor, and Oklahoma 2x, have all hired a position coach and had success. Oregon seems be back on track with a position coach and Tennessee, Ole miss, and maybe Florida are on the way with g5 coaches. A&M went and hired the sure thing and they could probably have had more success with an easier schedule but also they just lost to app state.
runningblind
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Now tell me what the difference is between all those schools and Nebraska. Oh right, they all have tons of recruits right near by, save Oregon who has the cool factor going for it.
Bad2theBONES
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With Trev making “so many calls” to get peoples opinions. Let’s hope he calls this guy in Myrtle Beach!
PasstheDamnBallGuy
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Ok then. Find a proven p5 coach who wasn't in one of those areas that we can hire because those don't count because they are easy to recruit to.
runningblind
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The Dude
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PasstheDamnBallGuy
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Who was making that point? Certainly not that rambling guy. Depending on your view of success Whittingham is the only coach I can think of that fits that.
84HuskerLaw
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Well, Trev has had plenty of time to get hundreds of outside opinions. And even more time to personally observe and get inside opinions. In the end, holding your finger up to see which way the wind is blowing doesn’t mean much. He has to determine what kind of team and program Neb will have. It needs to be Nebraska’s, not somebody else’s. Unique and peculiar.
Nebraska is unlike anywhere else. You decide on the type of team, identity, etc and then hire a HC accordingly. Not just any ‘good’ HC will do. Nebraska is a design-build project, and doesn’t come with cookie cutter blueprints.
This seems to be the problem with coaching hires recently. Just go out a hire some ‘hot’ name running everybody’s latest fad schemes. Offenses and defenses are NOT one size fits all.
runningblind
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I don't know, most of this board is just incoherent rambling at the moment. Whittingham is a good one, been there for a long time. I just think this is going to be a difficult ask for anyone, and if fan support finally starts to dwindle we are going the way of the Gophers.
Ulty
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Leipold surely took the Kansas job knowing that if he got them to even halfway respectable and qualified for a bowl game every now and then, he would be able to have a very long a comfortable career as a P5 coach, but also knowing that if he was a success after a couple of years he would be able to hit the lottery with a huge contract at one of the money schools.
Red Silk Smoking Jacket
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Okay, now do all the position coaches and G5 coaches that teams have missed on. I'll hang up and listen.
PasstheDamnBallGuy
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Def agreed with all of that.
Oh you want me to research your argument for you. Easy then can't think of one. That was easy
Not sure I agree with you. Chadwell is the only person I've even seen mentioned that runs a unique scheme and I don't think he's going to be coaching at Nebraska.
There was a small run on hiring out of the Briles tree (Dino Babers, Sean Lewis, Montgomery at Tulsa) and Briles was part of a run out of the Leach tree but Nebraska's never really gone after scheme in hiring. You can make the argument that Riley was a scheme hire but I don't think that's a very strong argument given the conflicts with Bo weren't based on offensive scheme. Not like the perimeter west coast was novel.
I do agree with your point about Nebraska being design-build, so let's take a look at the design-builders on the market. These are guys who've elevated poor programs steadily and consistently. Most have done it more than once. A lot of these guys have had their names tossed out there:
- Matt Rhule (Temple, Baylor)
- Bill O'Brien (Penn State)
- Matt Campbell (Toledo, ISU)
- Lance Leipold (Buffalo, KU(?))
- PJ Fleck (WMU, Minnesota)
- Chris Petersen (Boise, UW)
- Chip Kelly (Oregon - with $ome help)
- Dan Mullen (Miss State)
- Lane Kiffin (FAU, Miss)
- Mark Stoops (UK)
- Bob Stoops (OU)
- Mike Leach (TT, Wazzu)
- Bill Snyder (KSU)
- Mike Gundy (OSU)
- Pat Narduzzi (Pitt)
Most of these guys are great teachers and good schemers who steadily improved the quality of the product. A few of these guys are promoters who brought in fans and improved the brand (Fleck and Kiffin, Gundy to some extent). Nebraska needs the former, obviously the brand is all that's left. Outside of these names, most of them worked under a great coach themselves as a younger coordinator. Very few, if any were established P5 coaches when they arrived at their last stops. Leach and Petersen being the two best examples.
A lot of people are overlooking Jim Leonhard here but I see a ton of Bob Stoops in him and I think he's got the elite teaching skills which show up in his development and on the field every week. Probably the best DC in the country and possibly one of the best true coordinators. Look at Aranda, not only are there real ties between the two but watch an Aranda coaching clinic, the guy is a college professor. Same goes for Pete Golding but I don't see him getting a real look. Fantastic teacher. Muschamp has that same teaching ability but wasn't a great CEO.
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presidentjlh
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I'm out on Bill O Brien as I've thought about it. All we have for him regarding college HC experience is two years at Penn State. Went 8-4 and 7-5. Granted, this is somewhat impressive considering it was right after the Sandusky awfulness, but I want someone proven to succeed at the college HC level.
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