Who should our next HC be?

[ColoradoHusk]

I think there may be some exceptions you can file for but I don't think there will really be anything during the season.

What we are hopefully doing is getting the new HC lined up so he has time to start getting his choices for assistants figured out.  Because we really need to have most of the staff ready to go on December 5th.

Even if we don't announce the new guy until after the Iowa game he can hopefully do some checking on who might be interested so he can move quickly on quite a few guys that next week.  And possibly even be deciding/interviewing any current assistants who he might want to keep.

Completely agree, and the new head coach and his staff will need to hit the ground running.  I just think it's a misconception that a new coach can be hired, have assistant coaches come in, and they can go out on the recruiting trail, while there is 2 1/2 weeks left in the regular season.  There has to be exceptions for teams that are in bowl games, because when NU played USC in the bowl game in December 2014, there was a staff of Nebraska coaches doing the bowl game, while Riley and his staff were assembled and out on the recruiting trail (although there was no December signing period, and some of December might have been a dead period then).

 

[ActualCornHusker]

But here are some thoughts on Rhule: Does the guy really give a s*** about trying hard at anything at this point, given that the Panthers owe him $40M still? So we're talking about what they still owe him...and that's on top of what he's accrued from his previous two gigs.

I think for the average person who works to make a living, that's the thought process. But let's be real here. Once coaches get to the head coach level at the power 5 or NFL (or even FCS level for that matter), they could work for a couple years and then be set for life. You just don't see many if any doing that. Which points to a different motivation than sustenance. For some coaches, I think their motivation is money (making as much as they possibly can). But I'd bet the intrinsic motivation for a vast majority of coaches is to win at a high level - whatever that looks like to each individual coach - and/or to lead and mould young men.

 

[Huskerfollower4life]

We did that with Pelini and Frost.

Your whole perspective is that we are entitled to success because we're soo important. We're not, and we aren't owed or guaranteed anything. 

We didnt hire the best guy possible with Frost and Pelini. Pelini and Frost were very limited as head coaches. They were good at certain things but not overall. Good at offense or defense but being a head coach not at all. Pelini was never a head coach until he got here and Frost had one year of success and thought bringing the UCF staff with him was going to work. You and I saw the results and they arent here anymore. Pelini isnt even a coach anymore and Frost is hopefully living a good life somewhere.  Its not that I feel Nebraska should be entitled to anything but Nebraska players and fans have put the University in the position to be successful and the University hasn't with decisions that have affected that.

 

[TonkaSker]

I wanted to update the matrix i put out a couple weeks ago. Left to right is most to least, so there is an order.

Some obvious candidates removed or absent as I don't see them coming whatsoever. I'd say theres a >1% chance any of these guys would say yes if asked.

 

[Hayseed]

We have run the ball 54% of the time.  Only 21 teams run it over 60% and only 8 of those are Power 5 teams.  Considering how much of the season we've spent playing from behind and how much the line has struggled to run-block, I don't think that's a bad percentage.

Yeah, but 80% of our runs are draws into the lineman's a$$. Percentage means nothing. Calhoun or Monken will actually RUN THE BALL.

 

[TGHusker]

I wanted to update the matrix i put out a couple weeks ago. Left to right is most to least, so there is an order.

Some obvious candidates removed or absent as I don't see them coming whatsoever. I'd say theres a >1% chance any of these guys would say yes if asked.

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So of those confirmed contacts, my preference is in this order:

Rhule

O'Brien

Doeren

Leipold

Monken

Patterson as one of the above's DC

 

[Hayseed]

I wanted to update the matrix i put out a couple weeks ago. Left to right is most to least, so there is an order.

Some obvious candidates removed or absent as I don't see them coming whatsoever. I'd say theres a >1% chance any of these guys would say yes if asked.

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But maybe there are ten guys who were contacted who are not on that list?

 

[TonkaSker]

So of those confirmed contacts, my preference is in this order:

Rhule

O'Brien

Doeren

Leipold

Monken

Patterson as one of the above's DC

Hard to poke holes in that but I think Doeren is coaching his tail off this year. Seems written off by a lot around here.

Ton of expectations, starting QB goes down, and they're still extremely competitive after giving a true freshman a week to figure it out.

Give me Doeren and MJ Morris with three more years of eligibility.

 

[TonkaSker]

But maybe there are ten guys who were contacted who are not on that list?

Yeah sure, but how am I supposed to know who they are? Lol

 

[Undone]

I think for the average person who works to make a living, that's the thought process. But let's be real here. Once coaches get to the head coach level at the power 5 or NFL (or even FCS level for that matter), they could work for a couple years and then be set for life. You just don't see many if any doing that. Which points to a different motivation than sustenance. For some coaches, I think their motivation is money (making as much as they possibly can). But I'd bet the intrinsic motivation for a vast majority of coaches is to win at a high level - whatever that looks like to each individual coach - and/or to lead and mould young men.

I think the problem might be the guaranteed money in the contracts as opposed to just the actual salary number itself.

To me it seems pretty stupid how the guaranteed money has gotten to be such a huge chunk of the contract.

What I believe this breeds is maybe more at the subconscious level, rather than being a conscious motivator. But it's that when the guy signs the next huge deal he's basically guaranteed at a minimum roughly another $15 million, just by showing up for 2 seasons. That's pretty insane.

 

[Red Five]

Auburn media seem to think Matt Rhule is headed to Nebraska...

https://huskercorner.com/2022/11/08/nebraska-football-auburn-matt-rhule/amp/

Welcome to last Thursday.  But why should we trust Auburn insiders since Auburn wears Under Armor?

 

[Dansker]

I've pretty much refrained from talking about possible coaches because history shows that some rando usually follows the firing of a fan-favorite and the leaks never get it right at all.

But here are some thoughts on Rhule: Does the guy really give a s*** about trying hard at anything at this point, given that the Panthers owe him $40M still? So we're talking about what they still owe him...and that's on top of what he's accrued from his previous two gigs.

That's kind of where I think the sweet spot is more of the Matt Campbell kind of guy; it isn't just about the resume, it's also stage of career and projections about motivation level.

And to me, Matt Campbell is the type of coach that would be highly motivated to run through a brick wall to be successful here. Again, is his resume the greatest? No. But that isn't necessarily everything.

If it's Rhule, I think it says a lot that he would mitigate that $40 mil owed to him by coming back to coaching so soon. Perhaps there is a love for the game over all the money. Coaches are a crapshoot we have no idea whether he'll be like Frost or the next Nick Saban. But he has a reputation of being a program builder and player developer. Two things this football program really needs.

 

[thexyz]

I wanted to update the matrix i put out a couple weeks ago. Left to right is most to least, so there is an order.

Some obvious candidates removed or absent as I don't see them coming whatsoever. I'd say theres a >1% chance any of these guys would say yes if asked.

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I’ll maintain that there’s a better chance for Stoops than is thought. I’ll say it’s between Rhule and Stoops. There seems to be less smoke on Aranda. It could be the case were there’s not mutual interest. I agree with your assessment of Doeren. He’s being given consideration and deservingly so. He might yet be in the running. Patterson as DC is an interesting thought. 

 

[Red Five]

I've been seeing way too much stuff over-hyping Mark Stoops lately. Like yesterday Mike Farrell put out a list of his top ten best coaching fits for us, with Stoops at #2. Stoops has a .400 record in conference play, and has had a grand total of two seasons with a conference play record above .500 after a decade at Kentucky. Stoops would be an OK hire if our goal is to battle it out with Purdue and Minnesota for the middle of our division. (Brohm has a .479 conference record, Fleck has a .490 record. And don't feed me that 'MUH SEC' s#!t, please.)

100% agree.  Unless he beats UGA this year, he will have 2 winning conference records in 10 years.  As well as only finishing the season ranked twice in 10 years.

 

[TGHusker]

If it's Rhule, I think it says a lot that he would mitigate that $40 mil owed to him by coming back to coaching so soon. Perhaps there is a love for the game over all the money. Coaches are a crapshoot we have no idea whether he'll be like Frost or the next Nick Saban. But he has a reputation of being a program builder and player developer. Two things this football program really needs.

Agree.  At this point that is who I'm pulling for.  You can't discount the NFL experience even if it didn't go as planned.  The connections made and the credibility it gives before recruits can't be taken lightly.  I think Rhule would be closer to Saban than Frost based on his experience at Temple and Baylor (and frankly Aranda's experience at Baylor).