Weird Time for Christians

Okay, I looked into it myself. The original reporting attributes the remains to the results of ground penetrating radar.  No idea what the 8 million in the investigation went to (link?) but it appears they did not attempt to recover the actual bodies.

No coverage beyond the New York Post

Sidebar: why is this in the Weird Time for Christians thread?

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Guy Chamberlin said:
Okay, I looked into it myself. The original reporting attributes the remains to the results of ground penetrating radar.  No idea what the 8 million in the investigation went to (link?) but it appears they did not attempt to recover the actual bodies.

No coverage beyond the New York Post

Sidebar: why is this in the Weird Time for Christians thread?
Click to expand...
From my understanding, the reporting was it was fact there are remains, and that seems to be in dispute.  It was also reported those remains have to deal with the Church which also seems to now be disputed. 
 

As far as why the thread? It would seem to be a weird time to have to deal with it and the story involves around Christians.   If you feel it’s in the wrong place and find a better thread, move it.   It wouldn’t bother me if there is a better fit and it makes others happy.  

 
Archy1221 said:
https://globalnews.ca/news/9906433/chief-excavation-manitoba-church-basement/
Click to expand...


Looks like that was a different case at a different school.

The original story was a Catholic school, echoing all the scary s#!t that's gone down at Catholic schools over the centuries, so I guess it's relevant in a Christian thread. But I think you're mostly getting to the media publicity the original claim received, and the relative silence about the lack of ensuing evidence.

As the Chief in the above link says, it would be a shame if this plays into the denialism about the undeniably horrific conditions imposed on the poor and native. A shame some native people's would exploit it, and I'd like a little follow up on the usage and success of "ground penetrating radar"  -- which used to tell you where to dig, but was never mistaken for the objects themselves. 

 
Christianity was never meant to be a 'popular brand'.  It isn't to be measure by number but by depth of devotion and character and service towards others.  However, if we hide our light or become 'unsalty' the consequence may very well be lower church attendance in the USA.  However in other parts of the non-western world the church is growing rapidly.  Some of those countries are now sending missionaries to America.  

Regardless: Popularity is never the measure of success - regardless of what Joel Osteen  would say. 

Then he said to them all: “Whoever wants to be my disciple must deny themselves and take up their cross daily and follow me. Luke 9:23

“I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.” Galatians 2:20 

Speaking to the disciples Jesus says in Matthew 24 : 

 8All these are the beginning of sorrows. 9Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake. 10And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold

 
Kids are forced to attend service...parents make them go.  Kids grow up and stop going...parents stop caring.  

Parents get old and find faith again.  Mostly because it is something to do and you can go out for coffee with the other old people.

Wash rinse repeat.  

Now, add in covid and movie theaters and places of worship have still never fully recovered and never will.  The country just lost a ton of old people.

 
teachercd said:
Kids are forced to attend service...parents make them go.  Kids grow up and stop going...parents stop caring.  

Parents get old and find faith again.  Mostly because it is something to do and you can go out for coffee with the other old people.

Wash rinse repeat.  

Now, add in covid and movie theaters and places of worship have still never fully recovered and never will.  The country just lost a ton of old people.
Click to expand...
Yes - agree Covid has had a big effect.  Some churches have not and may not return to pre-covid census.  

 
Covid definitely played a factor, but also just as time wears on, science shows us how the universe works, and gods are still AWOL from our reality, people are just going to stop believing in magic beings. Every year that passes is another year further from when Christians claim their god walked the earth. Every year that passes, our depth of understanding of through the scientific method leaves fewer and fewer things needing to be explained by gods.

I think we've reached the tipping point where people are able to reason out why things happen and don't need to believe in gods. Over time, all gods fade into myth. Some just haven't gotten there yet.

 
Back
Top