Dylan Raiola

NWHuskerfan said:
I personally think the dual threat QB is a much more sought after player in todays college FB and the NFL
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I hear you, but he runs about as well as Mahomes and does some of the things he does...and I'd say Mahomes is just about the undisputed current best QB in the NFL.

When you spread a team out with the danger of your arm talent but have the option to scramble for a 1st down when you really need to is probably the most desirable thing in a QB, in my opinion. Lamar Jackson will probably never be able to get the better of Mahomes.

But obviously we could go on and on with this discussion.

 
runningblind said:
The QB has historically been down the pecking order of offensive importance at Nebraska.  OL/RB were way more important back in the day than the QB.  Completely different world to what is asked of QBs in today's game. 
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They may not have gotten the stats, but the QBs were still extremely important. It's still about decision making and execution, and Osborne's triple-option offenses were pretty sophisticated and required precision decision makers holding that snap. Most of college football agreed the best Husker QBs were special. They certainly weren't anonymous.  

It may be a different world, but the run-heavy system was in the minority then as it is today. I'm not sure how different the ask is for quarterbacks today, but the schemes have been designed for more high-percentage passing plays. I don't think a college or pro quarterback can get away with anything less than 60% completion rate, and it better be more like 65% - 70%. Thing that hasn't changed? Every quarterback looks better with a good offensive line. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
They may not have gotten the stats, but the QBs were still extremely important. It's still about decision making and execution, and Osborne's triple-option offenses were pretty sophisticated and required precision decision makers holding that snap. Most of college football agreed the best Husker QBs were special. They certainly weren't anonymous.  

It may be a different world, but the run-heavy system was in the minority then as it is today. I'm not sure how different the ask is for quarterbacks today, but the schemes have been designed for more high-percentage passing plays. I don't think a college or pro quarterback can get away with anything less than 60% completion rate, and it better be more like 65% - 70%. Thing that hasn't changed? Every quarterback looks better with a good offensive line. 
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The thought is, were they special on their own or because of who they were playing behind and beside? Look at the number of guys who can run today and be dual threat, compared to how many can be true passing QBs? IMO it is much easier to find a guy who can run, and teach how to make a good decision on an option play or hand off versus how difficult it is to make dozens of decisions throwing the ball against complex defenses. 

Husker teams back then could even coach up a good athlete to play QB versus trying to do that today. That's what I mean it's a different world. It was far easier of a task back then, especially when you include our status of winning and being on TV.  I am with you that our old QBs were excellent athletes and football players, but not anything like a traditional QB. There's a reason we haven't hardly put any in the league.

 
runningblind said:
The thought is, were they special on their own or because of who they were playing behind and beside? Look at the number of guys who can run today and be dual threat, compared to how many can be true passing QBs? IMO it is much easier to find a guy who can run, and teach how to make a good decision on an option play or hand off versus how difficult it is to make dozens of decisions throwing the ball against complex defenses. 

Husker teams back then could even coach up a good athlete to play QB versus trying to do that today. That's what I mean it's a different world. It was far easier of a task back then, especially when you include our status of winning and being on TV.  I am with you that our old QBs were excellent athletes and football players, but not anything like a traditional QB. There's a reason we haven't hardly put any in the league.
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All true, but I think the book on dual threat quarterbacks over the last 40 years -- college and pros --- suggests they need to pass at least as well as they run to be a dual threat, and the guys whose instinct is to scramble rather than hang in the pocket don't make it to the next level. I think college defenses have also gotten faster and smarter, and if they line up daring a QB to beat them with his arm, he's gotta have that talent. I mean, you can be a competent option QB or a great option QB, just like you can be a great or competent passer. Just don't want to deny credit to the Huskers who will go down as great option QBs and team leaders, definitely its own skillset. 

The other problem operating a run-heavy scheme in college is that linemen who want to go to the NFL will be graded on their pass blocking skill, and some of the best recruits might opt for the more traditional offenses if given the choice. 

 
lo country said:
I gotta defend JLo.  One of my fave Huskers of all time.  Dude was a beast.  Tap that helmet and JLo left or JLo right :D
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Those were a tough couple years for me. Looked to me like Jamal racked up big rushing numbers because he was an option quarterback who called his own number too much in a predictable and low scoring offense that led to Nebraska's first non-winning season in 40 years. A 47% passer and an interception machine. Only Joe Dailey could make me miss Jamal Lord. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
All true, but I think the book on dual threat quarterbacks over the last 40 years -- college and pros --- suggests they need to pass at least as well as they run to be a dual threat, and the guys whose instinct is to scramble rather than hang in the pocket don't make it to the next level. I think college defenses have also gotten faster and smarter, and if they line up daring a QB to beat them with his arm, he's gotta have that talent. I mean, you can be a competent option QB or a great option QB, just like you can be a great or competent passer. Just don't want to deny credit to the Huskers who will go down as great option QBs and team leaders, definitely its own skillset. 

The other problem operating a run-heavy scheme in college is that linemen who want to go to the NFL will be graded on their pass blocking skill, and some of the best recruits might opt for the more traditional offenses if given the choice. 
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Agreed.  It really was a unique skillset and it worked on the teams they played for no doubt.  Your points illustrate why the option isn't really a thing anymore overall as well. 

 
Maybe it's just me, but I've always had the opinion that we would have won the NC in 95' with Matt Turman behind center.  TO's offense didn't require an elite runner or thrower at QB.

 
knapplc said:
Raiola one third of the way through his Freshman season:

ATT/COMP/CMP%

83 / 115 / 72.2%

967 yards

8 TDs

2 INT

8.4 Yards per attempt

162.3 QBR

What sucks is, both INTs were in the hands of the WR. Very disappointed in the lack of separation and fight from the WRs on those plays.
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Maybe it's just me, but the first INT appeared as though it should have been considered a fumble.

 
junior4949 said:
Maybe it's just me, but I've always had the opinion that we would have won the NC in 95' with Matt Turman behind center.  TO's offense didn't require an elite runner or thrower at QB.
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We weren't losing s#!t with that O-Line and D-Line, Tommie was just what took that team from a great team to the greatest team to ever play.

 
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