Purdue - What did we learn?

[BigRedBuster]

So, it can be one of two general throws.   
 

1). Think a wheel route type fade or man over 20-30 yrs fade pattern that are covered well or a goal line back shoulder fade.   A QB will see tight coverage and throw the ball more on a line purposely short and to the outside back shoulder on the deeper route.  A key though is for the receiver to keep running fast and make a sharp stop so the defender either runs past or into the receiver.    The goal like back shoulder is about 2 yards into the end zone on a dart towards the receivers back hip area.   Again, the receivers detail is just as important as the throw.  Can’t turn too early.   
 

2) A cover three deep 50 yard single coverage  bomb is generally trying to hit the guy in stride but if it’s covered well and short, the receiver is the one who again makes the play happen by running hard until the very last moment and stopping if possible on the  route vs just gradually slowing down because that’s easier for the defender to defend.   But those throws are a lot of times just seeing one on one coverage and saying my guy is better than yours and you don’t really over throw it for that reason. 

So, the throws in the Purdue game could have been amazing back shoulder throws but the defender just ran into the receiver. 

 

[Mierin]

Our WR are not getting much separation on deep routes. I recall there being times Lloyd and Coleman were pretty open last year. Lloyd was open on that one big throw against Colorado and it was underthrown but Raiola was under pressure.

Even on some of the bigger plays we've made, our WR weren't open, but the ball was thrown to where only they could catch it and they made impressive catches (except on the 2 jump balls we lost).

 

[Archy1221]

So, the throws in the Purdue game could have been amazing back shoulder throws but the defender just ran into the receiver. 

Hard to tell unless you could see the all 22.    From watching on TV they don’t look like back shoulder throws based on my perceived trajectory of his throws. Looks more like throws just thrown short and no one knows if he did it on purpose or made a bad throws but him 

 

[Savage Husker]

I don’t think I have ever seen so many legit Pass Interference calls in a single game. 

I also don’t want to see another simultaneous catch review for the next decade

 

[Lorewarn]

So, the throws in the Purdue game could have been amazing back shoulder throws but the defender just ran into the receiver. 

Back shoulder throws are more bullet lines than lobs. He's definitely thrown some but I don't recall seeing many in the Purdue game.

 

[runningblind]

Dylan's footwork is not where it needs to be. He's getting by on extreme arm talent, but can take it up a notch by cleaning things up. The long ball is where it shows up the most.

 

[Mavric]

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[Mavric]

Pretty good success on deep balls this week, even more when you add in the DPIs.

Still odd that throwing right is an issue.

 

[RedDenver]

Pretty good success on deep balls this week, even more when you add in the DPIs.

Still odd that throwing right is an issue.

I think the throwing right is small sample size. He actually threw more passes to the right and that was still only 12 passes.

 

[Mavric]

I think the throwing right is small sample size. He actually threw more passes to the right and that was still only 12 passes.

If you look at that thread of Tweets, he's been bad throwing right in basically every game.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

So, the throws in the Purdue game could have been amazing back shoulder throws but the defender just ran into the receiver. 

My understanding is that savvy receivers can recognize when they've beaten coverage, and can draw a PI call regardless of the throw itself. 

That may be giving our WRs too much credit, but if you're the play caller and you see exploitable DBs, the likelihood of a penalty increases your odds on some of those deep balls. 

 

[Nebfanatic]

If you look at that thread of Tweets, he's been bad throwing right in basically every game.

Also the fact that he doesn't throw that way often says something in itself. The small sample size is an indicator too imo. Not something that can't be cleaned up though.

 

[RedDenver]

If you look at that thread of Tweets, he's been bad throwing right in basically every game.

I was going to compile the numbers from all the games, but twitter doesn't allow me to do that anymore since I don't have an account. But just a general observation is that until there's about 100 passes in each category, I'd still mark this up to small sample size without a clear cause.

Also the fact that he doesn't throw that way often says something in itself. The small sample size is an indicator too imo. Not something that can't be cleaned up though.

Raiola has actually thrown right more than to the middle or left (at least over the last 2 games).

 

[Mavric]

But I've been told that Satt is bad a sequencing plays....

 

[whateveritis1224]

But I've been told that Satt is bad a sequencing plays....

It was pointed out last year, but one thing I'm liking from the team is if someone is running across the goal line, it's two arms covering the football.