USC game. What did we learn

Arizona State was 3-9 last season.  The Sun Devils are now 8-2 with a 34-year old first time head coach.  I watched UNLV's offense tonight and that's what I would like Nebraska's offense to become.  They believe in the run game to set up the pass.  Hajj-Malik Williams is better than anyone on the Nebraska QB roster.


It's this. Why not Nebraska? We've had a lot of talk on here about unrealistic fan expectations, the difficulty of recruiting to Lincoln, the time it takes to build a new culture. 

But other teams do it all the time. 

It's weird to talk this way, but why can't Nebraska be Arizona State? How can Indiana do it and not us? How does Missouri, SMU, Army and Tulane pull it off? At this point wouldn't you rather be Colorado?  On this particular morning wouldn't you rather be Kansas? 

 
Rhule is 21-39 in his last 5 seasons as a head coach. He is not the guy to turn this program around, but he would make a great preacher!


We don't need to misleadingly include his time in Carolina to try and make the point that he's struggling. Or, if we're gonna, let's also say that Urban Meyer is 12-12 in his last 2 seasons as a head coach.

It's this. Why not Nebraska? We've had a lot of talk on here about unrealistic fan expectations, the difficulty of recruiting to Lincoln, the time it takes to build a new culture. 

But other teams do it all the time. 

It's weird to talk this way, but why can't Nebraska be Arizona State? How can Indiana do it and not us? How does Missouri, SMU, Army and Tulane pull it off? At this point wouldn't you rather be Colorado?  On this particular morning wouldn't you rather be Kansas? 




It's an interesting question, and one who's answer evades us in every way possible. On one hand, no, I would not rather be Colorado if it comes with all of the embarrassment and shame surrounding a cult of personality centered around a self-absorbed grifter. I also don't know that I would take one 9 win season every 10-20 years in exchange for our current results all of the rest of the time ala Kansas, Indiana, etc. That one single decent season is obviously more than we can hope for right now, but is a surefire way for a cycle of ADs and coaches to never get off the carousel at a school like Nebraska. We've seen so many examples of an otherwise lame duck coach having one decent season as a mirage (Brady Hoke at MIchigan, Mel Tucker at Michigan State, Kevin Sumlin at A&M, and we'll wait to see with Cignetti and others).

How do these other programs have quick turnarounds even if they only last for a year and then fall back down to earth? How do they, essentially, maintain the possibility of getting lucky once in a great while, while we are sandwiched with a floor and ceiling two inches apart? I don't know. I don't believe in curses intrinsically, but it seems obvious to me that there is some emergent psychological framework surrounding our football program which transcends the circumstances and variables of any department staff, coaches, and players, and who the f#&% has any idea how to go about even exploring for the answers?

 
New recruiting strategy. NO, ZERO, ZILCH, nil money up front. You only come here if you’re HUNGRY.  There will be positional metrics you need to meet. 7 sacks if you’re and edge rusher, 8 TD if you’re our #1 wr, etc. You hit those marks, we double what your estimate nil preseason. You get injured bad, we fix you and you get 1/2 your nil estimate. 

 
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New recruiting strategy. NO, ZERO, ZILCH, nil money up front. You only come here if you’re HUNGRY.  There will be positional metrics you need to meet. 7 sacks if you’re and edge rusher, 8 TD if you’re our #1 wr, etc. You hit those marks, we double what your estimate nil preseason. You get injured bad, we fix you and you get 1/2 your nil estimate. 






Possibly the worst idea I’ve ever heard for anything ever. 

 
We don't need to misleadingly include his time in Carolina to try and make the point that he's struggling. Or, if we're gonna, let's also say that Urban Meyer is 12-12 in his last 2 seasons as a head coach.

It's an interesting question, and one who's answer evades us in every way possible. On one hand, no, I would not rather be Colorado if it comes with all of the embarrassment and shame surrounding a cult of personality centered around a self-absorbed grifter. I also don't know that I would take one 9 win season every 10-20 years in exchange for our current results all of the rest of the time ala Kansas, Indiana, etc. That one single decent season is obviously more than we can hope for right now, but is a surefire way for a cycle of ADs and coaches to never get off the carousel at a school like Nebraska. We've seen so many examples of an otherwise lame duck coach having one decent season as a mirage (Brady Hoke at MIchigan, Mel Tucker at Michigan State, Kevin Sumlin at A&M, and we'll wait to see with Cignetti and others).

How do these other programs have quick turnarounds even if they only last for a year and then fall back down to earth? How do they, essentially, maintain the possibility of getting lucky once in a great while, while we are sandwiched with a floor and ceiling two inches apart? I don't know. I don't believe in curses intrinsically, but it seems obvious to me that there is some emergent psychological framework surrounding our football program which transcends the circumstances and variables of any department staff, coaches, and players, and who the f#&% has any idea how to go about even exploring for the answers?
To the bolded.  It's a cultural issue.  Plain and simple.  Wining and losing, are habit forming.  Accountability is habit forming.  We have "leaders" on this team who have yet to have a 50-50 season at NU.  The leaders......  Whatever/however you "lead by example" at the end of the day you are simply a guy who couldn't make that one play, yes that one play when it was needed.  Not once, but over a multitude of seasons, through multiple games,  countless opportunities, HC's and position coaches.  You have no idea as a player how to win.  How to demand it from yourself or your peers.......Best bet is to encourage these rising 4th and 5th year guys to move on.  Thanks, but no thanks.  You do not know how to win.

The staff doesn't hold you accountable.  We complained about Casey Thompson, but is Raiola really an upgrade in year 1?  Dude is a TO machine.  And slides instead of getting the 1st.  Dude doesn't have that team first mentality.  When the pressure was on, that singular play showed me how hard he's willing (or not) to go to win.  And I really want him to be that guy.  Hartzog gets beat like a drum.  Every game he gets attacked.  Has the staff once pulled him, said let's ride with a younger guy with more upside or just more of the same....Staff is throwing crap at the wall as they are in full free fall.  No idea how to fix this thing.   

Prime came in day one and told those guys that they had ownership in the 1-11 season.  They could have tried harder.  Played better.  Demanded more, but they didn't.  Do away with the stupid single digit jerseys.  Play good in a game you get to put your name on the back of it.  Earn your rights and opportunities every week.  Not just in the summer/fall against non-winners. 

 
What has Dylan done so far for him to return?  Like I mentioned yesterday, no one was butt hurt when he didn't sign with Ohio St and Georgia.  This school was used by one of its own to get his kid on a campus.  There is a reason the guy played for 4 different High schools...........and he won't remain on this campus his entire career either.

Go find a HC who wants this job, if for no other reason than to prove to himself and others they can coach.  We keep hiring left overs from the past. Go hire the next who wants this job, not us offering money to get them to have interest in coming here.  The last few guys hired we went after, they didn't come to us and say they wanted this job.  Even Frost, he was approached and offered the job, he didn't come after it.  Riley didn't come after it, Rhule didn't care until Alberts offered money and contracts.  

 
We don't need to misleadingly include his time in Carolina to try and make the point that he's struggling. Or, if we're gonna, let's also say that Urban Meyer is 12-12 in his last 2 seasons as a head coach.

It's an interesting question, and one who's answer evades us in every way possible. On one hand, no, I would not rather be Colorado if it comes with all of the embarrassment and shame surrounding a cult of personality centered around a self-absorbed grifter. I also don't know that I would take one 9 win season every 10-20 years in exchange for our current results all of the rest of the time ala Kansas, Indiana, etc. That one single decent season is obviously more than we can hope for right now, but is a surefire way for a cycle of ADs and coaches to never get off the carousel at a school like Nebraska. We've seen so many examples of an otherwise lame duck coach having one decent season as a mirage (Brady Hoke at MIchigan, Mel Tucker at Michigan State, Kevin Sumlin at A&M, and we'll wait to see with Cignetti and others).

How do these other programs have quick turnarounds even if they only last for a year and then fall back down to earth? How do they, essentially, maintain the possibility of getting lucky once in a great while, while we are sandwiched with a floor and ceiling two inches apart? I don't know. I don't believe in curses intrinsically, but it seems obvious to me that there is some emergent psychological framework surrounding our football program which transcends the circumstances and variables of any department staff, coaches, and players, and who the f#&% has any idea how to go about even exploring for the answers?


Coaching is coaching.  His time as an NFL coach is part of his resume, and frankly he struggled at Carolina. He also has a history of struggling against ranked teams at the college level.    If you want to truly compare Urban Meyer's resume to Matt Rhule's, I will share these overall statistics:

  • Urban Meyer is 189-43 as a head coach at the collegiate and NFL level with multiple conference championships and one national title
  • Matt Rhule is 67-82 as a head coach at the collegiate and NFL level



Trev made a bad hire, plain and simple.

 
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I learned that I miss the 4-3 defense with competent linebackers and DBs. So tired of lazy back foot throws to the flat where 3-4 yds extra could of been made if the pass had some zip on it. Tired of looking at the eyes of the player's and not seeing any fire or heart. Embarrassed by what has become of CFB after watching through the 70s, 80s and 90s. NIL has destroyed the game with the ME mentality instead of team. Saddened that the old coaches are still alive to see this Trainwreck. There's more but I'm old and tired......

 
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