12-Team Playoff On the Way; 14-Team to Follow

Agreed this never should have gone past 8 teams. But if you did go greater than 8, the proper way was always to have every FBS conference championship game winner in the playoff regardless off how we feel about the strength of the conference. Then you can fill out the rest with wild cards as needed. That would preserves the sanctity of the regular season, winning your division and conference, as well as giving the underdogs a shot.
This is exactly right.  Then, use it for 10 years without any major tweeks.  See how the parity works out.  Power program's rosters are smaller now.  Those players would then look for places to play.  Maybe some go to not power conference school.  The program can be good enough to win the conference and get into the playoffs.  The more that happens, the better.  And, you end up with more competitive games.

 
I think one of the biggest misconceptions that people need to let go of with the playoff is that it is meant to identify the best team. This playoff doesn't do that. Instead, it is a format to declare a champion to the season. It is the first format in the top level of college football that can truly say that they are the champion of the season. Before the BCS, there were scores of seasons with disputed champions. Nebraska was involved in disputed championships in 1997, 1994, 1993, 1983, 1982, and 1970. The four team playoff did a lot to eliminate that but there were still teams like 2023 Georgia, 2023 Florida State, 2020 Cincinnati, 2018/2017 UCF, and 2018/2015 Ohio State that had very good arguments to being in the discussion at the end of the season.

Nobody is arguing that Alabama, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miami, or BYU deserves to be the champion of this season. The playoffs are the best way to decide that.

Additionally, I think if you view the first round as the "Qualifying Round" it really helps take the edge off of a team like SMU or Indiana. The top four teams qualified by winning their conference championship, the other eight teams are fighting for the at-large bids.

 
I think one of the biggest misconceptions that people need to let go of with the playoff is that it is meant to identify the best team. This playoff doesn't do that. Instead, it is a format to declare a champion to the season.
Just like every other major sport out there.

I agree with your post.  I honestly didn't have a problem with the games this weekend.  They aren't any different than many other blowout games from past years in the playoffs or championship games...or bowl games from years past.

So.....we found out that Notre Dame beat Indiana.  Great.  Now, ND is on to the next game.  If they lose that one, they are out.  That's the way it should be.  Now, it would be great if they would be more competitive.  But, that could change in the future.

 
Go 16 team play off

Go back to divisions in P-4 conferences.  Divisional winners get auto bids.

Conference championships help figure out seeding.

Take top 16 and seed accordingly.   Not sure what to do with non-P4 schools?  Give top one an in?
No thanks. Apparently you didn’t watch any of the games this weekend. 

 
12 seems like the right fit for college football while still retaining an appropriate value in the regular season. Any more than 12 and I think the equilibrium between post-season and regular season shifts too much in favor of post-season.

 
IMO it might've been more fair from a "sporting" standpoint, but not from an entertainment one, and that's ultimately a big component of any playoff/tournament structure. If we all actually cared about determining true champions and crowning those deserving of the title then we'd probably do a Premier League format since it awards the most consistently strong team, but most people don't want that.

I'm hesitant to make any real sweeping critiques of the 12-team system in year one, but we probably all agree they won't be reducing it any time soon (if ever), which means they'll need to try to find new ways to make the current system better. But college football isn't (nor, has it really ever been) about a power balance like the NFL tries to be. We saw bad 4-team CFP games. We're going to see bad 12-team CFP games. Really only a few teams are legit title contenders ever year but playoffs aren't really about identifying and crowning them... they're really more about capturing the excitement and unpredictability of sports.
Relegation is a fun concept and it works great for international soccer, but the good ole boys would have an aneurysm if it even came close to fruition. It doesn't really work with all the division, the split of FCS and FBS, and the conference format we have. Also, it would mean our beloved University would effectively be dead. Fan support would evaporated if we had to claw our way back up 3 or 4 leagues with no hope of a national title in those years, and with the current wild west format of NIL and the portal our talent would evaporated overnight.

I don't think anything should be tweaked since we're in this 12 team format now. Just actually define the process, so teams know the expectation. As I've always said/thought the conference champs need to be guaranteed a spot regardless of the conference (so long as they have an officially sanctioned championship game). Currently that fills 10 spots, so you could have two wild cards for independents or the highest ranked bubble teams that didn't make a conference championship, or didn't have one.

 
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I think the playoff format is pretty good I would just try to make it more similar to the other college football playoff formats. 

  • 16 team field.
  • Every conference (with at least 8 members) champion gets an automatic bid. 
  • Committee picks 6 at large bids. 
  • BCS computer rankings for the seeding of the 16 teams (10 conference champions, 6 at large)

Also if a head coach complains on social media about the committee leaving their 3 loss team out, they get fined $100,000,000. 

 
I think the playoff format is pretty good I would just try to make it more similar to the other college football playoff formats. 

  • 16 team field.
  • Every conference (with at least 8 members) champion gets an automatic bid. 
  • Committee picks 6 at large bids. 
  • BCS computer rankings for the seeding of the 16 teams (10 conference champions, 6 at large)

Also if a head coach complains on social media about the committee leaving their 3 loss team out, they get fined $100,000,000. 
Make the check out to me!

Actually tell them their team isn't eligible for the next 2 years for the playoff.  

 
Relegation is a fun concept and it works great for international soccer, but the good ole boys would have an aneurysm if it even came close to fruition. It doesn't really work with all the division, the split of FCS and FBS, and the conference format we have. Also, it would mean our beloved University would effectively be dead. Fan support would evaporated if we had to claw our way back up 3 or 4 leagues with no hope of a national title in those years, and with the current wild west format of NIL and the portal our talent would evaporated overnight.
FWIW I agree - I think a tournament/playoff structure is the one that makes the most sense for college football, but I think people need to be more aware of what a playoff is actually for and not what they think it should be or what they want it to be.

I don't think anything should be tweaked since we're in this 12 team format now. Just actually define the process, so teams know the expectation. As I've always said/thought the conference champs need to be guaranteed a spot regardless of the conference (so long as they have an officially sanctioned championship game). Currently that fills 10 spots, so you could have two wild cards for independents or the highest ranked bubble teams that didn't make a conference championship, or didn't have one.
This is where I disagree - guaranteeing every conference champion a playoff spot creates a misleading sense of fairness. In practice, it elevates teams that emerged from weaker conferences and schedules over stronger at-large contenders. Plus, the lack of consistent scheduling standards across college football means that not all conferences or teams are tested equally. At the end of the day, the playoff should be about identifying the true championship-caliber teams. Realistically, that’s only a handful (four to six, at most) in any given year, and the current system does that better than one that guarantees 90% of its seats to conference champions.

The rest of the teams are there primarily because they're good teams and because people crave the unpredictability and excitement of playoff sports, which you're not going to get much of that from the Sun Belt champion most years.

 
Yes. But we could have beat Ohio state in the shoe this year. We need to be more consistent. We need to be able to make explosive plays on offense and defense to widen our margin for error. 
If Ohio State played against us like they did Saturday night, we could not have beaten them.  I am still shocked they didn't throw more on both us and Michigan as we could not hope to cover Jeremiah Smith all day. 

People also love to overreact about everything and try to flip constant 180s.  This years first round games stunk, agreed, but not all years will be like this.  Parity will improve with more and more teams getting to participate in the playoff.  This is overall good for the sport, especially having games on campus.  I would like to see the second round games on campus also, to reward the teams that got byes and their fans.  Or go to 16 and let everyone get a home game that way. 

 
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FWIW I agree - I think a tournament/playoff structure is the one that makes the most sense for college football, but I think people need to be more aware of what a playoff is actually for and not what they think it should be or what they want it to be.
 

This is where I disagree - guaranteeing every conference champion a playoff spot creates a misleading sense of fairness. In practice, it elevates teams that emerged from weaker conferences and schedules over stronger at-large contenders. Plus, the lack of consistent scheduling standards across college football means that not all conferences or teams are tested equally. At the end of the day, the playoff should be about identifying the true championship-caliber teams. Realistically, that’s only a handful (four to six, at most) in any given year, and the current system does that better than one that guarantees 90% of its seats to conference champions.

The rest of the teams are there primarily because they're good teams and because people crave the unpredictability and excitement of playoff sports, which you're not going to get much of that from the Sun Belt champion most years.
See, you've got the old guard mentality. Your first paragraph and the proceeding ones are at odds with each other. A playoff of champions brings teams together who have done everything they are supposed to throughout the season. Coaches and players can't control their conference or schedules, all they can do is win. You win your conference championship game you should be good enough to get a spot. End of story.

Nobody seems to have a big problem with the format of the NCAA basketball tournament which gives 36 conference champs an automatic bid. Granted it's a much larger pool, but every year you put lesser teams against power house bluebloods like Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, etc. We tune-in for the excitement of a Layola or Lehigh taking down a giant and making a run. With that hope for an upset come a lot of predictable blowouts, but that's acceptable. If you don't give teams a shot you'll never again have a scenario like Boise St upsetting Oklahoma, and really that's what sparked this whole evolution some 17 years ago.

 
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I think one of the biggest misconceptions that people need to let go of with the playoff is that it is meant to identify the best team. This playoff doesn't do that. Instead, it is a format to declare a champion to the season. It is the first format in the top level of college football that can truly say that they are the champion of the season. Before the BCS, there were scores of seasons with disputed champions. Nebraska was involved in disputed championships in 1997, 1994, 1993, 1983, 1982, and 1970. The four team playoff did a lot to eliminate that but there were still teams like 2023 Georgia, 2023 Florida State, 2020 Cincinnati, 2018/2017 UCF, and 2018/2015 Ohio State that had very good arguments to being in the discussion at the end of the season.

Nobody is arguing that Alabama, South Carolina, Ole Miss, Miami, or BYU deserves to be the champion of this season. The playoffs are the best way to decide that.

Additionally, I think if you view the first round as the "Qualifying Round" it really helps take the edge off of a team like SMU or Indiana. The top four teams qualified by winning their conference championship, the other eight teams are fighting for the at-large bids.
Im pretty sure the intent of a playoff system is to determine who is the best team where it matters most, on the field.

 
FWIW I agree - I think a tournament/playoff structure is the one that makes the most sense for college football, but I think people need to be more aware of what a playoff is actually for and not what they think it should be or what they want it to be.
 

This is where I disagree - guaranteeing every conference champion a playoff spot creates a misleading sense of fairness. In practice, it elevates teams that emerged from weaker conferences and schedules over stronger at-large contenders. Plus, the lack of consistent scheduling standards across college football means that not all conferences or teams are tested equally. At the end of the day, the playoff should be about identifying the true championship-caliber teams. Realistically, that’s only a handful (four to six, at most) in any given year, and the current system does that better than one that guarantees 90% of its seats to conference champions.

The rest of the teams are there primarily because they're good teams and because people crave the unpredictability and excitement of playoff sports, which you're not going to get much of that from the Sun Belt champion most years.
The lack of consistent scheduling standards is one of the core reasons why they expanded, outside of the clear monetary reasons. It’s impossible to create a fair playing field, and turns in to a pure subjective opinion convo, when you’re trying to pick 4 teams from what was 5 major conferences and Notre dame when very rarely do the teams in question have head 2 head results to easily say who is better than who.

this offseason I expect changes to how the auto bye works.  Pretty clear this past week that ASU and Boise should’ve been playing while a Texas/Ohio state should’ve been off. 

 
See, you've got the old guard mentality. Your first paragraph and the proceeding ones are at odds with each other.
I don't think my first and second paragraph are at odds - I'm acknowledging a playoff is the preferred format, we differ on how that format should work.

 A playoff of champions brings teams together who have done everything they are supposed to throughout the season. Coaches and players can't control their conference or schedules, all they can do is win. You win your conference championship game you should be good enough to get a spot. End of story.

Nobody seems to have a big problem with the format of the NCAA basketball tournament which gives 36 conference champs an automatic bid. Granted it's a much larger pool, but every year you put lesser teams against power house bluebloods like Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, etc. We tune-in for the excitement of a Layola or Lehigh taking down a giant and making a run. With that hope for an upset come a lot of predictable blowouts, but that's acceptable. If you don't give teams a shot you'll never again have a scenario like Boise St upsetting Oklahoma, and really that's what sparked this whole evolution some 17 years ago.



You talk about giving every champion a shot because they cannot control their conference or schedules, yet that idea ignores the fact that some leagues are much weaker than others. When you compare college football to basketball, you acknowledge that basketball has a much bigger field with more games, which means upsets are more likely and the stakes of a single game are different. Football has far fewer opportunities for programs to be tested, so a team that wins a weaker conference could coast through an easy schedule and still earn a guaranteed spot over a stronger at-large team that plays a brutal slate. You also say the hope for an upset justifies a flood of predictable blowouts, but if the goal is to determine a legitimate champion in a sport known for high injury risks and shorter seasons, those mismatches can create more frustration than excitement.

Also, the current format is giving those teams a shot, it's just assigning to weight to which teams are more qualified. I don't think my view is "old guard," it's just nuanced. It considers the structural differences between sports and the practical implications of guaranteeing playoff spots for every conference champion. I'm acknowledging the value of giving teams a shot while advocating for a system that balances opportunity with fairness and quality. I don't think any system is perfect but guaranteeing 90% of the playoffs seats to conference champions, when so many conferences are comparatively just bad and the skill gaps so disparate, isn't the right move IMO.

 
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