Censorship

Radio has decency rules.  TV has decency rules.  Billboards have rules.  The literal public square doesn't allow nudity and other explicit acts.  Pretty much everything that has operated for decades as avenues of "free speech" has some type of regulations they need to meet before sharing with the public.

 
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Do you have kids that use FB or Twitter?  Do you realize you can find porn on Twitter?  Is this really the free speech you want to see?
I have kids. One doesn't have social media. Too young. We prevent it until they are older, but you can't stop them from looking at friends phones. Two others are not on Twitter or FB. Those are for old farts. Instagram and TikTok I think. They even ditched Snapchat. 

Honestly one was exposed to porn in late elementary by a friend with a phone. Not from social media either. Just the web. We had long conversations with that kid. One in particular by my wife turned the corner for him. Had another kid get shown some dark web stuff by a girl with a phone. It literally made him I'll. He stopped hanging around with hear.

My point is that if you have a full proof way to protect them I am all ears. We try and use good relationships, trust, consequences and open conversations about the reality of the world. Teach them to be secure and confident in who they are and it helps with the pressure. They seem to be doing well. They have pulled back from the edge a few times, but so far they pulled back.

 
Zuck went on Rogan.






Zuckerberg summarized that the conflict between his company and the government, "basically got to this point where we were like ‘No, we're not going to we're not going to take down things that are true. That's ridiculous."

2020 was a crap show. Say you didn’t want the vax, get banned, maybe even lose your job. Go running outside without a mask. Shamed. Genger opinions. Banned. Theory on the origin of COVID. Censored. Hunter Biden laptop. Banned. Not real. Russia. Does anyone really want that crap again?

 
I have kids. One doesn't have social media. Too young. We prevent it until they are older, but you can't stop them from looking at friends phones. Two others are not on Twitter or FB. Those are for old farts. Instagram and TikTok I think. They even ditched Snapchat. 

Honestly one was exposed to porn in late elementary by a friend with a phone. Not from social media either. Just the web. We had long conversations with that kid. One in particular by my wife turned the corner for him. Had another kid get shown some dark web stuff by a girl with a phone. It literally made him I'll. He stopped hanging around with hear.

My point is that if you have a full proof way to protect them I am all ears. We try and use good relationships, trust, consequences and open conversations about the reality of the world. Teach them to be secure and confident in who they are and it helps with the pressure. They seem to be doing well. They have pulled back from the edge a few times, but so far they pulled back.
But how does surrounding them, and others in public, with more options to come across questionable things make the internet and social media better?  That's my question.

How does allowing more trash, that most normal people don't want to be exposed to, make those sites better?  Why are normal people cheering this on?

 
20 hours ago, nic said:

Zuck went on Rogan.



Does anyone want over-reach and political inconsistency again? No. Could a simple modification to fact-checking be applied? Sure. Would the national discourse improve if blatant disinformation was discouraged? I'd sure like to think so. Should a social media company always alter its content at the government's behest? Absolutely not. Has Elon Musk since used the newly "free & open" platform to censor his political detractors? You bet.

Does Zuckerberg anticipate that the new "freedom" from factchecking will create more or less accurate information? Or is he just sucking Donald Trump's c$%k?

Specifically to you, Nic, does an uncensored, un-fact-checked social media sound like any less of a s#!tshow? 

Honest question: do they allow the n-word on X or Facebook? 

 
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But how does surrounding them, and others in public, with more options to come across questionable things make the internet and social media better?  That's my question.

How does allowing more trash, that most normal people don't want to be exposed to, make those sites better?  Why are normal people cheering this on?
Just because you think it is "trash" doesn't mean it is trash though.  I mean, that is not fair to do.  

 
Also, if you hate social media or feel that it is not "fair" or regulated correctly but you still use it, you should really just simmer down and shut up.  

That is like a gun owner complaining about needing stricter gun laws.  

 
Also, if you hate social media or feel that it is not "fair" or regulated correctly but you still use it, you should really just simmer down and shut up.  

That is like a gun owner complaining about needing stricter gun laws.  
I don’t use it.  I have a FB profile that a rarely look at, if I do it’s because I’m drunk and probably being dumb.

So no, I’m going to keep calling nazis and anti women people “trash”

 
I don’t use it.  I have a FB profile that a rarely look at, if I do it’s because I’m drunk and probably being dumb.

So no, I’m going to keep calling nazis and anti women people “trash”
I use FB marketplace!  And when I am drunk I send out lowball offers on stuff I really don't want.  

You sir, are allowed to say those things!  Also, I thought you were referring to porn as trash!  Not nazis.  Nazis are trash

We can also toss in all dorks that are part of hamas and all hammy-bros are also trash.

 
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Does anyone want over-reach and political inconsistency again? No. Could a simple modification to fact-checking be applied? Sure. Would the national discourse improve if blatant disinformation was discouraged? I'd sure like to think so. Should a social media company always alter its content at the government's behest? Absolutely not. Has Elon Musk since used the newly "free & open" platform to censor his political detractors? You bet.

Does Zuckerberg anticipate that the new "freedom" from factchecking will create more or less accurate information? Or is he just sucking Donald Trump's c$%k?

Specifically to you, Nic, does an uncensored, un-fact-checked social media sound like any less of a s#!tshow? 

Honest question: do they allow the n-word on X or Facebook? 
Community Notes is BY FAR, like really really by far a better way to do fact checking than what we were subjected to previously.   

 
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Community Notes is BY FAR, like really really by far a better way to do fact checking than what we were subjected to previously.   


Eh, not really. If enough partisan people don't like a nonpartisan fact, they can make it go away. Apparently the metric is users voting on whether facts are considered "helpful" or "not helpful."  That's not how facts work. Crowdsourcing facts is not better than what we were subjected to previously. And where will these brave new influencers be getting their facts? The same media with boots on the ground experts that half the people chose to ignore? 

If you're pitting Fox News, Newsmax, Joe Rogan, and the dedicated apologists for every inanity that comes out of Donald Trump's mouth universe against the mainstream media gatekeepers and fact-checking services, it's not even close. You can get some mileage out of Hunter Biden and the Steele Dossier, but pure uncut disinformation is gonna get lots of play. 






The algorithm decides 


According to X's website, the purpose of its so-called bridging-based algorithm is to "identify notes that are helpful to a broad audience across perspectives." 

In other words, if the algorithm finds that contributors who voted on a given note represent an ideologically diverse group, then the note becomes visible on the platform. But if the algorithm finds that the voting contributors are too uniform in their political views — a possible sign of bias — "the public never sees it," Mahtani said. 

Problems with X's system of crowd-based fact-checking arise when a valid note calling out misinformation isn't rated as helpful by a diverse enough group of contributors to satisfy the algorithm, and is therefore never seen by readers. The speed at which a note is made public is also important, so that false or misleading information isn't given the opportunity to spread unchallenged. 


[SIZE=1.32rem]A[/SIZE][SIZE=1.32rem] [/SIZE]report in October[SIZE=1.32rem] by the nonprofit Center for Countering Digital Hate analyzed the Community Notes feature and found that accurate notes correcting false and misleading claims about the U.S. elections were not displayed on 209 out of a sample of 283 posts deemed misleading — or 74%.[/SIZE]



 
Is this one of your many crowds that doesn't actually exist? 

I mean, I'd hate to be you, too, but for different reasons than Archy infers. 
I mean, we had college kids protesting the US trying to get rid of the hammy losers.  

And I also hate being me, trust me!

 
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