The Democrat Utopia

[Archy1221]

A great example of gaslighting. Pretty sure you have been asked point blank about the unconstitutional aspect of this as that is the major issue over and over by multiple posters, a question you dodge every single time. We are "overreacting" about an egregious violation of the constitution, a singular point that has been repeated alot for you. 

The funding mechanism of zero dollar spending is something the Democrats and or Republicans can file suit over and by all means according to you get stopped immediately if it turns out to be unconstitutional.  
 

Your dude tried to put in a constitutional amendment via tweet in January!!!!!!!    Literally changing the constitution via tweet!  Now we are talking about not spending all the money we literally don’t even have.  Your dude did this with border wall funds and not a peep out of you!    Soooooo……don’t care one bit outside of pointing your true gaslighting out.  For four years you don’t care now all of a sudden you do.    

 

[Archy1221]

The Trump administration is attempting things you once declared liberal hysteria

Trying to solve wasteful spending.   That very well may be Liberal hysteria, and I’m all here for it.   If Trump admin goes outside the bounds of its responsibilities (btw….as EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT has done) there will be a plethora of lawsuits to get injections to get them stopped until hearings can be had.  This has already happened.   And guess what?   It happened during Joes term during Barack’s term and during Bush’s term and it will happen during the next Dem Pres term.  
 

We are talking about the process for which they are doing it.  I have expressed concern about it.  You have expressed very little to no concern about it.

This is finally a fair statement 

 

[Nebfanatic]

The funding mechanism of zero dollar spending is something the Democrats and or Republicans can file suit over and by all means according to you get stopped immediately if it turns out to be unconstitutional.  
 

Your dude tried to put in a constitutional amendment via tweet in January!!!!!!!    Literally changing the constitution via tweet!  Now we are talking about not spending all the money we literally don’t even have.  Your dude did this with border wall funds and not a peep out of you!    Soooooo……don’t care one bit outside of pointing your true gaslighting out.  For four years you don’t care now all of a sudden you do.    

Elon Musk is neither elected or appointed by Congress. DOGE is not a legally recognized agency. Him having access to the treasury is illegal. Your what about ism is really really weak this time. Big difference between a tweet that did absolutely nothing and actually gutting entire government agencies as we currently speak. The lengths at which you will go to defend a nazi billionaire who only wants to exploit you dumping on the constitution is mind boggling. 

 

[Archy1221]

So, you ARE fine with Elon shutting down complete departments of the US government just because he thinks they are wasting some money

I guess I won’t ever understand why you do this?   

 

[Nebfanatic]

This is finally a fair statement 

Lmfao  you have to be kidding. This is exactly what everyone is already saying 

 

[Archy1221]

@Archy1221 So, do you support Elon just completely ignoring an order by the courts?

No

 

[Archy1221]

Elon Musk is neither elected or appointed by Congress. DOGE is not a legally recognized agency

No he is not, nor are almost all of federal bureaucrats elected or appointed.   Wasn’t sure you were aware of that.  And DOGE is actually an entity renamed from an Obama created agency.   Fun fact!   

 

[Nebfanatic]

No he is not, nor are almost all of federal bureaucrats elected or appointed.   Wasn’t sure you were aware of that.  And DOGE is actually an entity renamed from an Obama created agency.   Fun fact!   

They are not legally recognized by Congress to have access to the treasury and stop payments. All federal bureaucrats combined don't have the power Musk has right now nor the conflict of interest. What they are doing is completely unconstitutional and no amount of dodging, denying and saying well what about them can change that. You can do all of the cartwheels you want. But you know, I will remember this conversation when the democrats have George Soros hacking whatever government agencies HE feels like are wasteful, fraudulent or abusive. 

 

[Archy1221]

LOL…

 

[Archy1221]

no amount of dodging, denying and saying well what about them can change that.

Well actually I was just correcting your incorrect statement.   Chomp

chomp On my bone 

But you know, I will remember this conversation when the democrats have George Soros hacking whatever government agencies HE feels like are wasteful, fraudulent or abusive. 

Ok. Thanks for letting me know 

 

[Scarlet]

Cutting down on wasteful spending by doing a three day audit by.....programmers.   :blink:

 

[BigRedBuster]

Trying to solve wasteful spending.   That very well may be Liberal hysteria, and I’m all here for it.   If Trump admin goes outside the bounds of its responsibilities (btw….as EVERY SINGLE PRESIDENT has done) there will be a plethora of lawsuits to get injections to get them stopped until hearings can be had.  This has already happened.   And guess what?   It happened during Joes term during Barack’s term and during Bush’s term and it will happen during the next Dem Pres term.  
 

This is finally a fair statement 

It’s what I have said many times to you. 

No

Well….they are. 

 

[Scarlet]

This is an actual statement in this thread.  

"Because that means the necessary pain is being felt by all"

I'm sure the oligarch class is just going to be writhing in pain with that up coming tax cut.  

 

[Nebfanatic]

Well actually I was just correcting your incorrect statement.   Chomp

chomp On my bone 

Ok. Thanks for letting me know 

Except the statement isn't incorrect. Elon Musks role in our government is unconstitutional. The things he is doing and how he is doing them is unconstitutional. This is the thing we have been saying over and over which you continue to intentional ignore and use manipulative tactics to not discuss. It's quite sad really. 

 

[commando]

Except the statement isn't incorrect. Elon Musks role in our government is unconstitutional. The things he is doing and how he is doing them is unconstitutional. This is the thing we have been saying over and over which you continue to intentional ignore and use manipulative tactics to not discuss the real issue. It's quite sad really. 

the king appointed him to destroy all but the executive branch of the government