The Democrat Utopia

Archy1221 said:
Mostly about right.  
 
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Mostly wrong I would say. I agree, we don't need to give Ukraine I blank check. But, Trump could have said, we stand with Ukraine in their freedom and will do what we can to help as much as possible. Instead, it was give us your minerals or we're done. I mean the US voted in favor of Russia that week. Opposite of all our now former allies. What side is the US on here? Ukraine or Russia. It seems some think we're on no ones side, just our side. Yet, it ain't Ukraine that's going to pull at the fabric of American security. It's russia.

 
Scarlet said:
"You didn't care when Hitler occupied the Sudetenland why should you care that he invaded Poland?"

MAGA logic 101
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They did care, they all cared a lot.  They were all just beat to hell from a war that just ended right before that.

Remember, according to the treaty Germany was not allowed to build up its military, but it did.  France and GB were a mess.

 
Nebfanatic said:
I know someone that has been flying a Ukranian flag since Russia invaded in 2022. Back then everyone was pro Ukraine. People have cared and still care. 
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Not to take anything away from that but that is about the lamest thing...flying a flag here in America for Ukraine.  I get it, I do, but that is self serving BS.  Which I am fine with, 100%, but it is not like it is helping.

What would be great would be if each flag bought meant one more bomb would be dropped on lame a$$ russia.  

I was golfing at a course here in Omaha 3 years ago and a house had a Ukraine flag flying.  I mean it is nice and stuff but, not really all that helpful.  With that said, the old man there did have a bucket of golf balls and he gave me a bunch. 

To give a micro example, I asked people here to not capitalize the "R" is russia, because that country is so lame, and they would not do it.

In the end, it doesn't change anything but it would have been nice to see the unity but of course our posters could not be bothered.

 
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RedDenver said:
Byron has apparently forgotten the GOP adopted a policy to block Obama at all costs:

https://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/the-gops-no-compromise-pledge-044311

Turnabout is apparently no longer fair play.
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This isn’t that hard to figure out, either.

Musk has financial interests in Russia.

Trump has financial interests in Russia. He’s also terrified of criticizing or opposing Putin in any way.

It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to convect the dots here.

 
Archy1221 said:
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Really? I recall there being plenty of concern and publicity, as Putin had used the 2014 Sochi Olympics as cover and drew criticism from every corner. That invasion involved Crimea, which had a lot of Russia sympathizers, at the same time Ukraine had a power vacuum after disposing its corrupt leadership. So there was plenty of "caring" about what Putin was up to in Ukraine, but few concrete actions the U.S. and Europe could take. Everyone was trying to read the tea leaves on Putin's ambitions. The only reason NATO entered the discussion was because Ukraine was trying to steer itself to a more Euro/American alignment (yay?) and kept telling the world it feared Putin had greater military designs on Ukraine, a very different scenario than just Crimea. 

Then, as you may recall, Putin launched a full-scale invasion that intended to sack Zelensky and take over the entire country.

Hence, measured concern became urgent concern. That's hardly hypocrisy, MAZE.

But thanks', Archy, for sharing another backwater rightwing social media influencer willing to completely ignore the right's foreign policy legacy to provide cover for the treasonous idiot they put in power. 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Then, as you may recall, Putin launched a full-scale invasion that intended to sack Zelensky and take over the entire country
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Under Biden’s foreign policy 👍

Guy Chamberlin said:
That invasion involved Crimea, which had a lot of Russia sympathizers, at the same time Ukraine had a power vacuum after disposing its corrupt leadership.
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Under Obama’s foreign policy👍 

Guy Chamberlin said:
gnore the right's foreign policy legacy
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See the above.  seems like a theme!   Just not the one you wanted it to be 

 
Archy1221 said:
Under Biden’s foreign policy 👍

Under Obama’s foreign policy👍 

See the above.  seems like a theme!   Just not the one you wanted it to be 
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Lot of idiotic posturing here, but let's run with it.

So the corrective to Biden and Obama policies that uhm "allowed?" Russia to invade countries and seize territories would be for Donald Trump to send a strong signal that Russian aggression would not be tolerated, including solidifying ties with the neighboring allies.

How's that going? 

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Lot of idiotic posturing here, but let's run with it.

So the corrective to Biden and Obama policies that uhm "allowed?" Russia to invade countries and seize territories would be for Donald Trump to send a strong signal that Russian aggression would not be tolerated, including solidifying ties with the neighboring allies.

How's that going? 
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Everyone knows if you smile and give a thumbs up to the bully as he's pummeling someone they'll get the point and stop pummeling people in the future!

 
BigRedBuster said:
Just one small tidbit of problem with your argument.  It wasn't because of Trump's foreign policy that he didn't invade during Trump's admin.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-officials-say-china-asked-russia-delay-ukraine-war-until-after-beijing-2022-03-02/

http://www.en.kremlin.ru/supplement/5770
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Do you know when the Winter Olympics took place?  
Do you even read the articles you post? 
Do you know when your own article said the convo between china and Russia took place? 
Do you even know when Trump left office?   
 

From your article……….🤦‍♂️

WASHINGTON, March 2 (Reuters) - Senior Chinese officials told senior Russian officials in early February not to invade Ukraine before the end of the Winter Olympics in Beijing, the New York Times reported, quoting Biden administration officials and a European official who cited a Western intelligence report.

 
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