Economy

Dr. Strangelove said:
We are being led into the abyss by the most retarded group of people imaginable. 
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Why are you talking about things that Trump actually caused and are actually happening right now instead of the insane things Trump claims will happen sometime in the future?  :facepalm:
 

Retarded group of people doesn’t begin to cover the complete ineptitude. In way over their heads and entirely up Trump’s a$$.

 
Maybe, just maybe: the House will grow a pair and impeach the guy for contempt for refusing to follow court orders, and the Senate would remove if this s#!t got bad enough.  Question is, how bad does it have to get before they say “uncle”?

 
BigRedBuster said:
BTW….futures are down another 1,000 points this morning. 
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And China doesn't care because they will continue to produce s#!t while paying their workers a dollar a day. 

Even if more things are made here in America, the "living wage" crowd will get that minimum wage up to 20 dollars an hour in two years.  It is already going to be 15 an hour here in Nebraska.  

s#!t is going to get so much more expensive.  

Good bye to stares like Dollar General, Dollar Tree and 5 Below.  

Good bye to any fast food menu items being under 5 dollars. 

 
teachercd said:
And China doesn't care because they will continue to produce s#!t while paying their workers a dollar a day. 

Even if more things are made here in America, the "living wage" crowd will get that minimum wage up to 20 dollars an hour in two years.  It is already going to be 15 an hour here in Nebraska.  

s#!t is going to get so much more expensive.  

Good bye to stares like Dollar General, Dollar Tree and 5 Below.  

Good bye to any fast food menu items being under 5 dollars. 
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It certainly is looking like a giant self-own with Trump and his tariffs.  And again he better be right because currently it’s a colossal f#&% up and he deserves to be mocked and scorned because the communication has been horrendous.  
 

It’s also dogs#!t optics to have the markets in free fall and you go off to golf for the weekend.  And I don’t care if you have a secondary office at Mar A Lago.  The tariffs are putting everyone into a panic and this is when communication needs to be buttoned up and on point.   Show the citizens you can give up a weekend and work the trade deals out.  Or communicate the long term plan.  I would also advise to stop sending out the “we trust Trump and things are going great, and everything will be wonderful” crowd on TV shows.   
Instead, send out the “here is what’s going on, it’s tough at the moment, here is what the goal is, and here is what we expect for the next 3 months crowd” and own it.  
 

Illegal immigration’s is going great, March hiring is going great, cutting Government was going good (if they would slow down and cut the mistakes).  Getting the bulls#!t far left ideology out of Gov was going good.  Revamping FBI was going good.  Working towards decentralizing Gov agencies was beginning to happen/talked about which is good.  I think many Republicans support some targeted tariffs on targeted countries to even the playing field.  The full scale trade war better work out, because it has a good chance to f#&% everything else I just mentioned which was way more important.  
 

I will accept some short term pain, to fix things long term (I would personally do the same for Social Security and Medicare, take less benefits if a solution fixes the issue Long Term or privatized some it) but if Trump is wrong, and the country goes in the toilet for 2026 Because of mass tariffs, he owns it and I will commit to voting a straight Blue ticket in 2026 and 2028 and hope others like me do in order to show them we wanted immigration control, cost cutting, right size Federal Government, spread out the Fed Gov power structure, and low taxes.   We would have given you a chance to prove your point on your pet project of targeted tariffs, but if these large scale tariffs end up crushing the economy and people’s 401k’s, you deserve to lose and I will help the other side teach a lesson to make the voters priorities THE priorities.  
 

End rant. 

 
Archy1221 said:
It certainly is looking like a giant self-own with Trump and his tariffs.  And again he better be right because currently it’s a colossal f#&% up and he deserves to be mocked and scorned because the communication has been horrendous.  
 

It’s also dogs#!t optics to have the markets in free fall and you go off to golf for the weekend.  And I don’t care if you have a secondary office at Mar A Lago.  The tariffs are putting everyone into a panic and this is when communication needs to be buttoned up and on point.   Show the citizens you can give up a weekend and work the trade deals out.  Or communicate the long term plan.  I would also advise to stop sending out the “we trust Trump and things are going great, and everything will be wonderful” crowd on TV shows.   
Instead, send out the “here is what’s going on, it’s tough at the moment, here is what the goal is, and here is what we expect for the next 3 months crowd” and own it.  
 

Illegal immigration’s is going great, March hiring is going great, cutting Government was going good (if they would slow down and cut the mistakes).  Getting the bulls#!t far left ideology out of Gov was going good.  Revamping FBI was going good.  Working towards decentralizing Gov agencies was beginning to happen/talked about which is good.  I think many Republicans support some targeted tariffs on targeted countries to even the playing field.  The full scale trade war better work out, because it has a good chance to f#&% everything else I just mentioned which was way more important.  
 

I will accept some short term pain, to fix things long term (I would personally do the same for Social Security and Medicare, take less benefits if a solution fixes the issue Long Term or privatized some it) but if Trump is wrong, and the country goes in the toilet for 2026 Because of mass tariffs, he owns it and I will commit to voting a straight Blue ticket in 2026 and 2028 and hope others like me do in order to show them we wanted immigration control, cost cutting, right size Federal Government, spread out the Fed Gov power structure, and low taxes.   We would have given you a chance to prove your point on your pet project of targeted tariffs, but if these large scale tariffs end up crushing the economy and people’s 401k’s, you deserve to lose and I will help the other side teach a lesson to make the voters priorities THE priorities.  
 

End rant. 
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Ill help out here because it is really easy: there is no plan. Trump makes decisions based on who is nice to him and who isnt. Its why he put tariffs on islands with no humans and a US military base on a remote island. He hasnt got a clue and didnt do a bit of research on it. No attention to detail with this guy at all. Just chaos.
 

Since China just imposed tarrifs of their own, as will other countries, he will put more tariffs on everyone and around we go. Its why he has bankrupted company after company after company…but Im glad you are starting to come around to team America even though it has been a slow process. No red, no blue, just Americans like it used to be before this guy divided familes and friends apart. 

 
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Ratt Mhule said:
but Im glad you are starting to come around to team America even though it has been a slow process. No red, no blue, just Americans like it used to be before this guy divided familes and friends apart
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Oh please.   No blue my a$$.  Division is the entire Dem strategy for getting votes.  Separate voters into groups and make each group feel aggrieved somehow someway so they vote blue.   It’s been that way since I’ve been an adult.   Play the racism card EVERYWHERE.  Play the take granny’s Medicare card every election.  Play the every non-Democrat is a Nazi each election.  There is a reason Obama is known as the Divider in Chief. 

I got no problem with the Chinese tariffs btw.  China can suck a big fat you know what.  

 
Archy1221 said:
Oh please.   No blue my a$$.  Division is the entire Dem strategy for getting votes.  Separate voters into groups and make each group feel aggrieved somehow someway so they vote blue.   It’s been that way since I’ve been an adult.   Play the racism card EVERYWHERE.  Play the take granny’s Medicare card every election.  Play the every non-Democrat is a Nazi each election.  There is a reason Obama is known as the Divider in Chief. 

I got no problem with the Chinese tariffs btw.  China can suck a big fat you know what.  
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Bigredbuster is not democrat. JJ is not democrat. TG is not democrat. Dr. Strange is not democrat. I wouldnt even call myself a democrat because the party has left me and the things I find important for the culture war BS you just mentioned. These are all posters on the more conservative end that have come together with more liberal posters for a common purpose and put our differences aside. When this part of our countries history is over, they will gravitate back to the new, and hopefully improved, conservative party. And then maybe we can start debating issues that actually matter like healthcare, education and making housing more affordable so we can fix the actual issues facing our country.

And I didnt think it was a secret that the GOP wants to privatize medicaid, medicare and SS. Its pretty apparent actually. s#!t just the other day a GOP rep on CNBC let it slip about cutting medicare and then caught himself and changed the wording to reform. Its not a conspiracy theory to think this when their actions show their words mean nothing. The budget they want to pass in Sept calls for $880 billion in cuts to ways and means department. That is the dept that runs medicaid and its pretty much their entire budget. So if they cut the entire budget of the dept that runs medicaid, wouldnt it be safe to assume they are cutting medicaid? It seems like common sense to me. 

 
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Ratt Mhule said:
Bigredbuster is not democrat. JJ is not democrat. TG is not democrat. Dr. Strange is not democrat. I wouldnt even call myself a democrat because the party has left me and the things I find important for the culture war BS you just mentioned. These are all posters on the more conservative end that have come together with more liberal posters for a common purpose and put our differences aside. When this part of our countries history is over, they will gravitate back to the new, and hopefully improved, conservative party. And then maybe we can start debating issues that actually matter like healthcare, education and making housing more affordable so we can fix the actual issues facing our country.
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This is why I have advocated for a third party.

 
Interesting thread to read and reaffirms this mass tariff thing is a gigantic gamble.  Sure, if it works out, it reorganizes the world order more in our favor.  However, if it fails, the economy could go into free fall for a few years which is good for nobody.  
 

BTW….this also show’s in small part why issuing massive debt just cause rates are extremely low comes back to bite you in the a$$ eventually in a higher rate environment. 


 
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