Children and immigration reform

Nebfanatic said:
I still think wholeheartedly anyone defending the absolute destruction of our rights and the move towards authoritarian police state is an enemy to our country and its values. That is the reality of the country we live in today and the goals of the current administration and I feel very strongly that it is beyond unamerican, but anti American in its values. I think any person defending us zooming warp speed towards facism is an actual enemy of the constitution and values our country was founded on. These people allow for the active erosion of our freedom in real time. I would never "back the blue" over the American people and our rights and freedoms. That is an insane notion and one that leads to Trump 2028 and beyond with national guard coming to every city and small town near you to "keep the peace". 
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This is how we end up with more gun lovers in this country.  Sadly.

 
teachercd said:
This is how we end up with more gun lovers in this country.  Sadly.
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100% true I would say. There has already been some research to suggest more liberal people are buying more guns than ever before. If things do become more and more unstable more people may feel the need to buy more guns. Less stability, more guns; what could go wrong?

 
Archy1221 said:
Great job Dems  :clap
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Heroes and patriots. Standing up for the rule of law in this country when you and other Trump supporters cheer on the destruction of our country and the feds pissing on our basic rights. LAPD said protests were peaceful and bringing in national guard was an an escalation that was not needed. So essentially they used tear gas and flash grenades on a bunch unarmed people standing around. Their s#!t caused fires that were put out by citizens almost immediately. The citizens in big cities will defend themselves and make the feds make the first move. And soon as they start shooting, and they will eventually, then all bets are off. 

Btw, ICE was on their own in Paramount, CA yesterday in their stand off at the Home Depot with citizens. LAPD and Sheriff said we aint helping you hahahaha. 

 
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Guy Chamberlin said:
Protesters gonna protest. Rioters gonna riot. Media gonna media. 

Whenever the standard rule of law is challenged by group behavior, some people use the moment to enjoy the giddy thrill of escalation and chaos. They are already preparing for this inevitability in whichever city wins The Stanley Cup. The bros will be out, fires will be set, and vehicles overturned. 

As someone else mentioned, there's a way to deport thousands of illegal immigrants without anyone even noticing. Storm troopers wearing masks and refusing to identify themselves in a performative show on behalf of a hyperbolic campaign promise by a wannabe dictator is just asking for trouble. A mob turning out to challenge these f#&%ers seems pretty American to me. 
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Rioting is now en vogue.   Hmmmm.  Who knew?   

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
Protesters gonna protest. Rioters gonna riot. Media gonna media. 

Whenever the standard rule of law is challenged by group behavior, some people use the moment to enjoy the giddy thrill of escalation and chaos. They are already preparing for this inevitability in whichever city wins The Stanley Cup. The bros will be out, fires will be set, and vehicles overturned. 

As someone else mentioned, there's a way to deport thousands of illegal immigrants without anyone even noticing. Storm troopers wearing masks and refusing to identify themselves in a performative show on behalf of a hyperbolic campaign promise by a wannabe dictator is just asking for trouble. A mob turning out to challenge these f#&%ers seems pretty American to me. 
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This is exactly right. It’s about how it’s being done and the messaging around it. Trump has made it clear that he wants to rule with an iron fist. Americans are not going to stand for that. The only reason MAGAts are supporting this is because wise it’s against people they don’t like. If it were against them or something they like, they would be revolting. 

Ratt Mhule said:
LAPD said no rioting took place. Try again. Your side is so desperate to declare martial law against blue cities/states, why is that?
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The right is going to do everything they can to make the protesters look as bad as possible. 

 
BigRedBuster said:
This is exactly right. It’s about how it’s being done and the messaging around it. Trump has made it clear that he wants to rule with an iron fist. Americans are not going to stand for that. The only reason MAGAts are supporting this is because wise it’s against people they don’t like. If it were against them or something they like, they would be revolting. 

The right is going to do everything they can to make the protesters look as bad as possible. 
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The dont tread on me crowd morphed into tread on me daddy real fast. 

 
teachercd said:
Didn't that guy beat his wife?  I saw something where he got brought back but to face charges???
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His wife withdrew the charges, or however you want to phrase it. She says she called the cops out of caution from a previous abusive relationship and it was a misunderstanding, but who really knows what happened. Either way he has no real criminal history outside of his immigration status.

 
ZRod said:
His wife withdrew the charges, or however you want to phrase it. She says she called the cops out of caution from a previous abusive relationship and it was a misunderstanding, but who really knows what happened. Either way he has no real criminal history outside of his immigration status.
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That tracks...a huge % of those calls from terrified women end up being "recanted" and we can pretty much assume as to why...

 
teachercd said:
Have you ever fired it?

I have a friend who collects guns and crossbows.  He has never fired/shot any of them.  He just collects them.
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Yeah, I’ve taken it out to the shooting range in the Pawnee National grasslands a few times. Honestly I feel completely out of my element there. Buncha backward redneck f#&%s for the most part. It’s a weird dynamic knowing most there, and there are always a lot of people, are staunch NRA 2nd Amendment supporting MAGA Trumpers.

 
JJ Husker said:
Yeah, I’ve taken it out to the shooting range in the Pawnee National grasslands a few times. Honestly I feel completely out of my element there. Buncha backward redneck f#&%s for the most part. It’s a weird dynamic knowing most there, and there are always a lot of people, are staunch NRA 2nd Amendment supporting MAGA Trumpers.
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Dude, I worked (for one day) at Lincoln Trap and Skeet while in college.  f#&%ing total weirdos at that place. 

I am sure they thought the same about me.

 
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Archy1221 said:
The rule of law whereby people are living here illegally with final deportation orders?  And then rioters actively try to stop the rule of law from being enforced?   
 

what you are trying to tell me is rioting against the rule of law you don’t like.  
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You really need to get some nuance into your life.
 

Rioters or protesters? You give yourself away with your divergent views on J6ers and people protesting how the Trump administration is enforcing their version of the law.

And “rule of law”? Would that be the rule of law that Trump enforces regardless of the law itself?

You really aren’t worth the effort anymore. Just admit you voted for Trump 3 times and love this authoritarian Magat s#!t. Go ahead, absolutely no one will be surprised.

 
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