"Extra tick alters a lot"

[dizzturbedNUfan]

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:yeah , Maudie. The past is past and without Mr. Peabody's Way Back Machine, and nothing be done about it.

T_O_B

dedhoarse

If you didn't want to read it, wouldn't it have been easier to just exit the thread instead of wasting your time inserting horses??? :dunno

 

[rawhide]

pickles would have been better than horses IMHO :bonez :lol:

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where's tufftiger when ya need'em

GBR

 

[T_O_Bull]

The only news is we need to be pulling for Texas. We need them to win and win big.

It only helps Nebraska in recruiting.

JMHO

:yeah :yeah :yeah

 

[Vince from ShamWOW]

Actually it's a really good read.

How one extra second changed the college football season
By Steve Wieberg, USA TODAY

Did they know?As they peered at the images on their TV screen at the end of the Big 12 Conference championship game two weekends ago, could replay officials have understood the enormity of the call they were about to make? Phone down a ruling that the game had ended with an incomplete Texas pass, and an entire college football season would lurch one way. Restore time — even a single second — and it would turn another.

They restored the second.

The field was cleared, Big 12 North champion Nebraska called time out to extend the delay and try to freeze Texas kicker Hunter Lawrence, and the Longhorns' senior coolly curled a 46-yard field goal inside the left upright to give them a 13-12 victory.

The repercussions were vast, shaping the makeup and tenor of the national championship race and major bowl picture, factoring into voting for the Heisman Trophy and perhaps altering the immediate future of one of the sport's signature programs.

Mack Brown, for one, couldn't appreciate the what-ifs until he was airborne to New York and the Heisman Trophy ceremony almost a week later. "I was flying up with one of our boosters, one of my best friends," Texas' coach says. "He's kind of propped back in his seat on the plane, and he hit me with, 'You understand that beween 40,000 and 60,000 Texas fans were sitting there with tickets in their hands — plane tickets, room reservations, some of them saved up for a year — and they wouldn't have been very happy if you hadn't won the game.

"Very honestly, coaches are working. You can't possibly think of all the negative things that could happen. … So none of that stuff hit me."Take away that pivotal second, and …

•Texas, with a loss, tumbles out of the national title picture. Cincinnati most likely steps in (barring rethinking by voters in the two polls that fold into the Bowl Championship Series rankings). The Bearcats not only move past newly beaten Florida and Texas but also past TCU, jumping from No. 5 to No. 2 the final BCS rankings to claim the berth opposite Alabama in the Jan. 7 title game in Pasadena, Calif.

•That sets off an uproar that, even by BCS standards, is Richter-scale worthy. Mountain West champion TCU looked poised to strike a major blow against the longtime subordination of college football's five middle- and lower-echelon conferences — the Mountain West, Western Athletic, Conference USA, Mid-American and Sun Belt — giving one of their own a shot at winning it all. Then, computers pulled the rug.

Note what actually happened Dec. 6.

TCU entered the previous weekend atop Big East champion Cincinnati in the USA TODAY coaches' and Harris Interactive polls, and those voters kept the Horned Frogs a spot ahead. But the BCS also folds six computer rankings into its composite standings, and four of them gave Cincinnati a bump in the wake of the Bearcats' 45-44 win vs. Pittsburgh. Two more dropped idle TCU a spot. That allowed Cincinnati to edge the Frogs by a .0042 of a point in the final overall standings.

•Big 12 champion Nebraska is now headed for the Tostitos Fiesta Bowl and Texas becomes an at-large BCS entry, bumping … whom?

Three other conference champions are automatically slotted into affiliated bowls: Ohio State and Oregon into the Rose, Georgia Tech into the FedEx Orange. Now comes a draft of TCU and three at-large BCS entries. The Allstate Sugar Bowl, picking first, likely takes Florida. The Orange, picking second, is a good bet to leap at Texas or perhaps Iowa, a longtime bowls favorite because of the legions of fans it brings. The Fiesta, picking third, goes with unbeaten TCU.

That leaves one BCS slot, in the Sugar, and two candidates for selection in Boise State and the Texas-Iowa leftover. If the pick here is anything but 13-0 Boise, the BCS' many critics go doubly ballistic. The five non-marquee conferences are shorted again.

•The ground, meanwhile, has shifted beneath Cincinnati's Brian Kelly and Notre Dame, which is eying him as its next coach. Can Kelly bail on the Bearcats, or announce a pending move, a month before they play for their first national championship? Can Notre Dame hold off on a hire — on putting together a staff and making a proper run at recruits — until almost mid-January? The guess is no and no.

"I might not be here at Notre Dame," Kelly told a Chicago radio station earlier this week, "because we don't know if they would have waited. … I was going to play in the national championship game."

Notre Dame probably looks elsewhere, maybe to Connecticut's Randy Edsall.

•Allowing the clock to run down and ultimately out while taking his final snap and throwing the final incompletion against Nebraska leaves a stain on Texas quarterback Colt McCoy's otherwise splendid four-year career. By the eve of the game, fewer than 10% of the Heisman Trophy's 926 voters had cast their ballots. Enough are soured that last year's runner-up doesn't get a return trip to New York as a 2009 finalist.

Conversely, a surge of support for Nebraska tackle Ndamukong Suh is even greater in the wake of his sizable contribution — 4½ sacks and seven overall tackles for losses — to the upset of the season over McCoy and the Longhorns. He moves from fourth in the balloting into the top three, maybe higher.

•Texas has drawn up a stunning $2 million annual raise for Brown that will make him college football's first $5 million man. Regents are to meet days after the game to rubber-stamp it. But does the loss, and especially the clock mismanagement at the end, at least delay the timing?

Brown recalls the deep disappointment of 2008, when a dramatic, early-November loss at Texas Tech cost Texas a shot at the Big 12 and BCS titles. Tech's Graham Harrell and Michael Crabtree hooked up on a game-turning, 28-yard touchdown pass with, ironically, a single second remaining. "The sad thing about this would have been that the juniors who became seniors had a similar ending to last year when they really deserved more," Brown says.

"It would have been a crushing blow for Texas."

 

[redout22]

I dont think that Boise State would have been bumped from the BCS picture; Iowa would have.

From everything that I have heard it would have been Boise that would have been bumped out of a BCS game. Iowa wouldn't have gone to the Orange Bowl though.

 

[nemajordude]

dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse dedhoarse

:yeah , Maudie. The past is past and without Mr. Peabody's Way Back Machine, and nothing be done about it.

T_O_B

dedhoarse

Like I wrote, no knew news. Just nice to see it in print on the national level.

Right. The guy posted about an article that appeared in today's USA Today. I'd say that's fodder for this discussion board. It is a discussion board after all.

 

[HUSKER 37]

Right. The guy posted about an article that appeared in today's USA Today. I'd say that's fodder for this discussion board. It is a discussion board after all.

Yeah..But the fashion police probably think we look way cooler by putting this in the past. :dunno

The only news is we need to be pulling for Texas. We need them to win and win big.

It only helps Nebraska in recruiting.

JMHO

Mainly, I agree with you..But we do recruit more directly with (against) UT...And I'm sure they will do some major bragging to all their instate recruits if they win this thing..

Is it too late to hope for a scoreless tie?

 

[craigsker]

Texas had better hope like hell they keep that MNC game close. If it gets upwards of three scores with over a quarter to play and those announcers get into filler, they're going to labor on this one second like an octogenarian gumming taffy.

Texas needs to prove they belong in the game by keeping it close or winning (if possible). If they get blown out, it's going to open the door to unending speculation that Cincy belonged there (if they beat FLA), and it will DEFINITELY fuel the fire of the Fiesta Bowl winner.

If Texas lost it would remind me of the first Big 12 CCG where Texas won and then got hammered by Penn St in the bowl game.

Any wagers on how many times they show the last 8 seconds of the Big XII championship during the MNC game?

 

[Captain K]

The only news is we need to be pulling for Texas. We need them to win and win big.

It only helps Nebraska in recruiting.

JMHO

:yeah :yeah :yeah

Either of you want to explain this one to me?

Take your time. I'll be eating taffy with my teeth in a glass of Efferdent.

 

[VA Husker Fan]

It's not really a very well-thought out article.

It implies that TCU would've stayed behind Cincinnati by the same margin as they are now. But Cincy was ahead of Texas in many computer rankings, while TCU was behing in most. I'm guessing TCU would've picked up an extra .04 computer points while Cincy would've picked up .01, since the high and low scores are dropped. The computer score is 1/3 of the formula so this would've put TCU ahead by .0058. The voter polls would've changed too, but I think TCU and Cincy would've basically stayed the same relative to each other there.

And I don't really get the point of bringing up Colt McCoy's Heisman chances because of that play. He already finished way out of 1st place even with the win. Take away the extra tick--and he's even farther out of first place. The extra tick probably only kept him in 3rd instead of 4th or lower. I doubt it costs him the trip to NY, but if it does, that's hardly changing the landscape of college football.

 

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

And I don't really get the point of bringing up Colt McCoy's Heisman chances because of that play. He already finished way out of 1st place even with the win. Take away the extra tick--and he's even farther out of first place. The extra tick probably only kept him in 3rd instead of 4th or lower. I doubt it costs him the trip to NY, but if it does, that's hardly changing the landscape of college football.

True, but I think enough voters "heard" about his "game winning drive" to warrant additional votes in their (voters) eyes. Had Texas lost, it may have swayed enough voters to not vote for McCoy but instead another finalist (Suh?). With Texas losing, would Suh have finished higher in the voting?

I thought it was a pretty good read myself like Vince said. That one second may not have necessarily changed the landscape of college football in its entirety but it quite possibly changed it for this year.

 

[VA Husker Fan]

And I don't really get the point of bringing up Colt McCoy's Heisman chances because of that play. He already finished way out of 1st place even with the win. Take away the extra tick--and he's even farther out of first place. The extra tick probably only kept him in 3rd instead of 4th or lower. I doubt it costs him the trip to NY, but if it does, that's hardly changing the landscape of college football.

True, but I think enough voters "heard" about his "game winning drive" to warrant additional votes in their (voters) eyes. Had Texas lost, it may have swayed enough voters to not vote for McCoy but instead another finalist (Suh?). With Texas losing, would Suh have finished higher in the voting?

I thought it was a pretty good read myself like Vince said. That one second may not have necessarily changed the landscape of college football in its entirety but it quite possibly changed it for this year.

So they should've made the Heisman impact discussion about Suh, not McCoy. Suh was kind of a footnote in it.

The question about whether it would've affected Kelly going to Notre Dame is moot because Cincy probably finishes 3rd either way.

 

[HuskerfaninOkieland]

I think, with a Texas loss and a Cincy win that weekend, there would have been enough of a shift in the polls to put Cincy ahead of TCU.

 

[CornHOLIO]

The only news is we need to be pulling for Texas. We need them to win and win big.

It only helps Nebraska in recruiting.

JMHO

:yeah :yeah :yeah

Either of you want to explain this one to me?

Take your time. I'll be eating taffy with my teeth in a glass of Efferdent.

If TU wins, We look like we're really back because we took the MNC to the last second and pretty much beat them.

Many recruits probably think they could make the difference and be on the next MNC team.

:dunno

 

[billdozer15]

Page one of today's USA today:

When Texas, with a final second put back on the clock, beat Nebraska 13-12, it affected the national championship race, the major bowl picture, and even the Heisman.

Article reads that if Nebraska had won:

1. The obvious- Cincinnati most liekly steps into the national champ. game.

2. If Cincinnati is in the champ game, does Kelley leave for Notre Dame?

3. Allowing the clock to run down, ultimately cost Colt the Heisman because fewer then 10% of the voters had voted. The article does suggest that perhaps this was not fair to Colt because he had a splendid four year career. Also mention is the upsurgence of Suh, who would have garnered more votes had Nebraska been allowed to win.

4. B12 champ Nebraska, would have been headed to Fiesta bowl, Texas would have landed a at large bid to a BSC bowl, and Boise State would have been bumped.

5. Brown may not get a $2 million raise.

6. 40,000-60,000 Texas fans already had their plane tickets, hotel rooms, etc; wouldn't have been very happy.

Not really new ground in this article, but it is nice to hear it on a national level.

I think for Kelley leaving he wouldn't have given one thought if Cincinnati was in the Championship Game.

For number 3. I don't care what Colt did in his 4 years, the heisman is awarded yearly. He was worse this year than last year. when people start to consider overall rather than the yearly this is another reason why the Heisman is worthless.

I agree, but many believe Crouch was awarded the Heisman as a career award in 2001. I believe his numbers were better in 2000. His greatness was undeniable, just thought I would throw that out there for perspective.

Kelly had eyes for ND probably before he took the Cincy job. I think if Texas lost, there would have been a unified push to get TCU in the championship game, JMO. I doubt Mack Brown gets that raise if they lose the Big 12. Texas fans would whine, because that's what Texas fans do best. I can't wait till October when we take that 1 second and beat them senseless as a reminder that they were let off the hook and it won't happen again.

When they come to play next year the clock operator should start the game clock on the scoreboard at 15:01 and see if the refs blow the whistle at the opening kick off to please reset the game clock to 15 min.