Chris Williams

[Captain K]

In post #27, you admitted to doing the same exact thing. But, you would have liked to see guys booted off for smoking pot? Please clarify.

I wasn't given a free education. There's a huge difference in standards between scholarship athletes and students in general. One generic student smoking pot doesn't reflect on the whole university. One scholarship athlete does.

So...

Since we've jumped to the conclusion that he smoked pot...

Would your feelings change if pot were now legal?

(And would it be against a team rule?).

I'm on the fence with this one, but I've only tried pot a couple of times with no effect...(That's what I get for trying to smoke the stuff that's growing next to the fence).

Oh, absolutely. If it's not illegal, or if the age was 21 like booze and he were 21, I have no problem with it.

I agree with this per se. I wouldn't have any kind of problem with it, but would still hope to see the players refrain from anything of the sort. It's like how the team voted to abstain from alcohol this year, there isn't anything inherently bad about drinking, but it certaintly doesn't help you be a better football player, and you could choose something else to do that could benefit yourself or your teammates in a more positive manner.

I thought Suh admitted to having had a drink before his accident. Am I recalling incorrectly? Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

 

[Landlord]

In post #27, you admitted to doing the same exact thing. But, you would have liked to see guys booted off for smoking pot? Please clarify.

I wasn't given a free education. There's a huge difference in standards between scholarship athletes and students in general. One generic student smoking pot doesn't reflect on the whole university. One scholarship athlete does.

So...

Since we've jumped to the conclusion that he smoked pot...

Would your feelings change if pot were now legal?

(And would it be against a team rule?).

I'm on the fence with this one, but I've only tried pot a couple of times with no effect...(That's what I get for trying to smoke the stuff that's growing next to the fence).

Oh, absolutely. If it's not illegal, or if the age was 21 like booze and he were 21, I have no problem with it.

I agree with this per se. I wouldn't have any kind of problem with it, but would still hope to see the players refrain from anything of the sort. It's like how the team voted to abstain from alcohol this year, there isn't anything inherently bad about drinking, but it certaintly doesn't help you be a better football player, and you could choose something else to do that could benefit yourself or your teammates in a more positive manner.

I thought Suh admitted to having had a drink before his accident. Am I recalling incorrectly? Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

I was confused about the Suh incident as well, I know they said something about his blood alcohol level but don't remember if it was ever revealed if he actually had alcohol or not. But as for the second part of your post, that's exactly what I mean, it might not be too big of a deal, but why bother?

 

[typ3kal]

In post #27, you admitted to doing the same exact thing. But, you would have liked to see guys booted off for smoking pot? Please clarify.

I wasn't given a free education. There's a huge difference in standards between scholarship athletes and students in general. One generic student smoking pot doesn't reflect on the whole university. One scholarship athlete does.

So...

Since we've jumped to the conclusion that he smoked pot...

Would your feelings change if pot were now legal?

(And would it be against a team rule?).

I'm on the fence with this one, but I've only tried pot a couple of times with no effect...(That's what I get for trying to smoke the stuff that's growing next to the fence).

Oh, absolutely. If it's not illegal, or if the age was 21 like booze and he were 21, I have no problem with it.

I agree with this per se. I wouldn't have any kind of problem with it, but would still hope to see the players refrain from anything of the sort. It's like how the team voted to abstain from alcohol this year, there isn't anything inherently bad about drinking, but it certaintly doesn't help you be a better football player, and you could choose something else to do that could benefit yourself or your teammates in a more positive manner.

I thought Suh admitted to having had a drink before his accident. Am I recalling incorrectly? Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

I was confused about the Suh incident as well, I know they said something about his blood alcohol level but don't remember if it was ever revealed if he actually had alcohol or not. But as for the second part of your post, that's exactly what I mean, it might not be too big of a deal, but why bother?

His police report is available online. Yes he had been drinking and his BAC was something around the lines of .02 - You shouldn't have a BAC above .0 or .005 which is within the standard error of the devices unless you have been drinking.

 

[knapplc]

Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

Alcohol is no more addicting than porn or hoarding or any other mental bugaboo. Let's not demonize it to prove some farcical point, shall we?

 

[Captain K]

Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

Alcohol is no more addicting than porn or hoarding or any other mental bugaboo. Let's not demonize it to prove some farcical point, shall we?

Excuse me! Aren't you the person who gets all upset when we start talking about boobies. Sorry that I had a good friend killed by a drunk driver.

 

[knapplc]

Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

Alcohol is no more addicting than porn or hoarding or any other mental bugaboo. Let's not demonize it to prove some farcical point, shall we?

Excuse me! Aren't you the person who gets all upset when we start talking about boobies. Sorry that I had a good friend killed by a drunk driver.

I don't know where your animosity comes from, but directing it at me isn't solving anything. My father drank himself to death when I was 14. My sister is currently an untreated alcoholic. Now that we've all got our alcoholism bona fides out in the open, can we calm down and have a rational discussion?

 

[Captain K]

In post #27, you admitted to doing the same exact thing. But, you would have liked to see guys booted off for smoking pot? Please clarify.

I wasn't given a free education. There's a huge difference in standards between scholarship athletes and students in general. One generic student smoking pot doesn't reflect on the whole university. One scholarship athlete does.

So...

Since we've jumped to the conclusion that he smoked pot...

Would your feelings change if pot were now legal?

(And would it be against a team rule?).

I'm on the fence with this one, but I've only tried pot a couple of times with no effect...(That's what I get for trying to smoke the stuff that's growing next to the fence).

Oh, absolutely. If it's not illegal, or if the age was 21 like booze and he were 21, I have no problem with it.

I agree with this per se. I wouldn't have any kind of problem with it, but would still hope to see the players refrain from anything of the sort. It's like how the team voted to abstain from alcohol this year, there isn't anything inherently bad about drinking, but it certaintly doesn't help you be a better football player, and you could choose something else to do that could benefit yourself or your teammates in a more positive manner.

I thought Suh admitted to having had a drink before his accident. Am I recalling incorrectly? Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

I was confused about the Suh incident as well, I know they said something about his blood alcohol level but don't remember if it was ever revealed if he actually had alcohol or not. But as for the second part of your post, that's exactly what I mean, it might not be too big of a deal, but why bother?

His police report is available online. Yes he had been drinking and his BAC was something around the lines of .02 - You shouldn't have a BAC above .0 or .005 which is within the standard error of the devices unless you have been drinking.

So, if the team did vote to abstain and Suh didn't, you'd think that breaking a team rule would have met with some sort of suspension, if "In the deed, the glory" and all is to be upheld. Just seems to me that getting rid of a guy who is found to be smoking pot isn't any worse than breaking a team rule about drinking. Something else is at work here. We'll probably never know, nor do we need to.

 

[knapplc]

Wouldn't it be important to know the particulars of that legendary vote before making presumptions based off of it? The abstention thing is hearsay, near as I can tell.

 

[Captain K]

Also inherent to alcohol consumption is the possibility of addiction and screwing up your life royally. Other than that, it isn't too bad though.

Alcohol is no more addicting than porn or hoarding or any other mental bugaboo. Let's not demonize it to prove some farcical point, shall we?

Excuse me! Aren't you the person who gets all upset when we start talking about boobies. Sorry that I had a good friend killed by a drunk driver.

I don't know where your animosity comes from, but directing it at me isn't solving anything. My father drank himself to death when I was 14. My sister is currently an untreated alcoholic. Now that we've all got our alcoholism bona fides out in the open, can we calm down and have a rational discussion?

You mean the kind where you talk down to everyone else and declare yourself the winner. What's the point? And, of course, someone harming themselves with alcohol is the same thing as killing someone who is innocent. :thumbs See I added one of those little thingies you like to put on the end of your demeaning posts meant to belittle the person you are responding to.

 

[Captain K]

Wouldn't it be important to know the particulars of that legendary vote before making presumptions based off of it? The abstention thing is hearsay, near as I can tell.

Yes. That is why I said "if."

 

[knapplc]

Wouldn't it be important to know the particulars of that legendary vote before making presumptions based off of it? The abstention thing is hearsay, near as I can tell.

Yes. That is why I said "if."

So you've answered your own question then, haven't you?

"So, if the team did vote to abstain and Suh didn't, you'd think that breaking a team rule would have met with some sort of suspension, if "In the deed, the glory" and all is to be upheld."

Suh wasn't suspended.

 

[Captain K]

You lost me. There are several explanations to him (Suh) not being suspended: 1. Team let it slide, because he is NS 2. Penalty was less than suspension or 3. They never really voted to abstain (heard of that during Osborne coaching years, but not much mention since). Nothing has been answered yet.

 

[knapplc]

You lost me. There are several explanations to him (Suh) not being suspended: 1. Team let it slide, because he is NS 2. Penalty was less than suspension or 3. They never really voted to abstain (heard of that during Osborne coaching years, but not much mention since). Nothing has been answered yet.

There's your answer.

I didn't have much time when I first answered this, so here's the further explanation. Clearly since he wasn't suspended they didn't vote to completely abstain, OR, they did vote but the penalty was less than suspension. So we have no proof of anything, and my post from earlier stands, that until we know what that vote was, basing anything off of it is useless.

 

[braskypants]

Thats what Cody Glenn got in trouble for...

I have a few team doctors that are friends of mine and one of them had to treat cody for a concussion after falling down the stairs at 2 in the morning while high.

Umm no. Cody got caught banging an underaged boosters daughter. Good try though.

 

[REDSTEEL]

Thats what Cody Glenn got in trouble for...

I have a few team doctors that are friends of mine and one of them had to treat cody for a concussion after falling down the stairs at 2 in the morning while high.

Umm no. Cody got caught banging an underaged boosters daughter. Good try though.

I think we can now officialy call this thread derailed. chuckleshuffle