Wow, obviously I pushed a button. Guess I should have used crayon since you understand in rainbow colors better. I disagree that all of those players that I listed - some of the top players in their classes - have bogus height/weights.
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Pushed a button? Huh? I'm not even having a spirited debate like I've been known to do a few times. If you have irritated me, you will know. Although seeing that you have resorted to pot shots in what
was a reasonable discussion shows me where this is headed.
Seantrel Henderson - the #2 recruit in 2010 is 50 pounds lighter than what rivals is reporting. :sarcasm Just because there isnt' a checkmark doesn't mean it isn't accuarte. Henderson was weighed and measured so many times they probably wore the tape out. Powell, Henderson, Prater, Floyd, Allen, Woods, etc, etc. Hardly any of the top 100 recruits have all their measurables verified with your checkmark - most have none...but the accuracy of them is more than likely close because all these players were at the camps/combines and were measured. NO checkmark doesn't mean it's "self reported" it just means Rivals didn't bother verifying themselves. Rival's get's their numbers from other sources than Crabtree and the bathroom scale he carries around in his backpack. If it doesn't have a checkmark does the cynic in you just imediately assume they are 4 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter? Personally I don't gain any comfort with the checkmark since our coaches and staff obviously can't measure as well as the NFL scouts at the combine (in Ganz's case - For Ganz/Coffey I went of the NU roster) And if our coaches can't measure to your standards then probably no one can.
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Again, here you go being off the reservation.
Why does Henderson have to be 50lbs lighter? The kid could be 10-15lbs lighter and 2-3 inches shorter. That's common place in recruiting. But yet you have to go overboard to find some solidity in what you are saying.
As for Rivals' reporting practices - you are saying that you find Rivals the bearer of truth to report what is accurate. This is the same place that grades recruits higher based on who prolongs recruitment. The same place that ranks recruits higher based on who has the larger Rivals fanbase. And yes, this is why Nebraska recruits get more bumps than they get knocked down. The place that relies on an offer list to do recruiting for them, meaning if you get an Alabama, Florida, Texas, Oklahoma offer - you go up in the rankings.
But for Rivals' heights/weights, if you do not believe what I am saying, then I do not know what to tell you. This has been common practice from Rivals from their inception and has been well known. If you don't want to believe that, then ask around to those that will know. I'm not sure you want to for knowing what you will hear, but that's up to you.
All in all, you are saying what you THINK happens and stating it as fact, without any semblance of actual fact, but merely hoping you are right in what you say.
As for Lampkin - his self reported height (5'9") benefited him. If you are saying Sterup's self reported height is wrong then I say it probably errors on the side that will benefit him (making him shorter) which means that in reality he might be 6'10" or 6'11". He's not going to embellish his height and say he's 6'9" when he's really 6'7" because it certainly won't help him any. You are hoping his height is wrong. You're hoping he self-reported himself taller - which wouldn't make much sense from his perspective.
And as I stated, I believe it to be the case. I stated that from my original post, which is why I am completely confused as to why you are even debating me on this.
As I said in multiple posts now, my point is simply that showing players who have self-reported heights/weights is a strawman argument at best in showing that it will not make a difference the outcome of a player.
Further - if Sterup's height/weight is wrong, why has it not been corrected? I mean, as you believe, Rivals have numerous sources who could find out the true height/weight of a player without issue. A man like Sean Callahan has likely seen Sterup an insane amount of times, and could easily find out from the numerous coaching and administrative contacts he has. Someone like Bryan Munson could as well when he has as many contacts in this state, and in the AD, as anyone out there.
Even Sterup - he's a wrestler. He's measured and weighed religiously. Kid has also taken unofficials to Nebraska. The data would not be that hard to track down.
Lampkin also took multiple unofficial visits this past year, in which he would be looked over. In essence, you cannot have it both ways on this argument, if this is the argument you want to make.
