QB Situation

[knapplc]

I don't think saying that Green needs to improve drastically means that people are writing him off or throwing in the towel. If you ask me it is a fact and was painfully obvious last year that he had a ways to go. If people were saying he has no chance of improving and will never get better then that would be writing him off. I don't see that going on though.

Agreed. Many, many of us wanted him to redshirt. He's still very young, still growing into his body. This kid could very well light it up this year, he could need another year of seasoning, or he could be a bust. Still too early to tell, even after a full season.

 

[junior4949]

Indeed. Green did need to redshirt. If Spano passes him on the depth chart this year, I still believe he needs a redshirt. He was already a year behind before coming here because of an injury in high school.

 

[NUance]

I think Cody Green emerges to be the man. Sure he looked rattled last season. People seem to forget that he was a true freshman. A TRUE FRESHMAN. That’s what a true frosh looks like when he takes the reigns for the first time in the midst of the Big 12 schedule. The reigns of a struggling offense, no less. Cody is going to look like a seasoned vet this year. I’m betting that Taylor Martinez, Kody Spano and Latravis Washington don’t even come close to unseating Cody Green at #1. And we will forget what Zac Lee looked like last year. Actually, we will block it out of our memory.

 

[knapplc]

I think Cody Green emerges to be the man. Sure he looked rattled last season. People seem to forget that he was a true freshman. A TRUE FRESHMAN. That’s what a true frosh looks like when he takes the reigns for the first time in the midst of the Big 12 schedule. The reigns of a struggling offense, no less. Cody is going to look like a seasoned vet this year. I’m betting that Taylor Martinez, Kody Spano and Latravis Washington don’t even come close to unseating Cody Green at #1. And we will forget what Zac Lee looked like last year. Actually, we will block it out of our memory.

I love the enthusiasm. You may be correct, but I didn't know that we knew anything about Washington, Martinez or Spano in real game situations. How are you making this prediction?

So where does Zac fit into your prediction? Non-factor or second string?

 

[zoogs]

I am surprise too by how many people are ready to basically throw in the towel on a true fresheman who is what?....17 or 18 years old? How many snaps did he take? Geez, cut the kid some slack.

newearth is exactly right. Not throwing in the towel - but that's different from expecting him to suddenly evolve into our best QB. The latter is the extreme approach, not the former. Really, apart from his 4 stars, why is anyone expecting him to be our future?

I think Cody Green emerges to be the man. Sure he looked rattled last season. People seem to forget that he was a true freshman. A TRUE FRESHMAN. That’s what a true frosh looks like when he takes the reigns for the first time in the midst of the Big 12 schedule. The reigns of a struggling offense, no less. Cody is going to look like a seasoned vet this year. I’m betting that Taylor Martinez, Kody Spano and Latravis Washington don’t even come close to unseating Cody Green at #1. And we will forget what Zac Lee looked like last year. Actually, we will block it out of our memory.

Bolded part indicates the tremendous leap in logic.

 

[knapplc]

Really, apart from his 4 stars, why is anyone expecting (Cody Green) to be our future?

I think the vast majority of it is based on his results in High School against some pretty fierce competition in Texas. He was a star in a very tough league. His highlight reels were pretty good. That's where most of this is coming from, I think.

Combine that with Lee's lackluster performance and that natural tendency to favor the second-stringer becomes even more pronounced, I think.

 

[Enhance]

Really, apart from his 4 stars, why is anyone expecting (Cody Green) to be our future?

I think the vast majority of it is based on his results in High School against some pretty fierce competition in Texas. He was a star in a very tough league. His highlight reels were pretty good. That's where most of this is coming from, I think.

Combine that with Lee's lackluster performance and that natural tendency to favor the second-stringer becomes even more pronounced, I think.

Absolutely right.

Besides, everybody loves the back-up quarterback. :lol:

 

[NUance]

I think Cody Green emerges to be the man. Sure he looked rattled last season. People seem to forget that he was a true freshman. A TRUE FRESHMAN. That’s what a true frosh looks like when he takes the reigns for the first time in the midst of the Big 12 schedule. The reigns of a struggling offense, no less. Cody is going to look like a seasoned vet this year. I’m betting that Taylor Martinez, Kody Spano and Latravis Washington don’t even come close to unseating Cody Green at #1. And we will forget what Zac Lee looked like last year. Actually, we will block it out of our memory.

I love the enthusiasm. You may be correct, but I didn't know that we knew anything about Washington, Martinez or Spano in real game situations. How are you making this prediction?

So where does Zac fit into your prediction? Non-factor or second string?

Last season it seems like everybody evaluated Cody Green-—and downgraded him—-as if he had been in our system for two or three years. Aside from Tommie, when is the last time we had a true freshman QB who looked better?

I was impressed with what I saw from Cody Green getting his first game snaps as a true freshman. I think Green has the stuff of be a Div. I rock star. The guy has good speed, and runs like an I-back. He has nice size, and a rocket arm. Granted, he needs a bit more poise to work through his progression. But I think that will come as he works out with the ones during spring.

I'm high on Cody Green. I think he will be the next great Husker QB.

Cheers to Cody Green! /NUance downs a tall, cold glass of off-season Cody Kool-Aid./

As for Zac, who knows. I don't think that off-season surgery is going to help his decision making abilities. He will be a solid backup.

 

[Paperback Writer]

Really, apart from his 4 stars, why is anyone expecting (Cody Green) to be our future?

I think the vast majority of it is based on his results in High School against some pretty fierce competition in Texas. He was a star in a very tough league. His highlight reels were pretty good. That's where most of this is coming from, I think.

Combine that with Lee's lackluster performance and that natural tendency to favor the second-stringer becomes even more pronounced, I think.

Cody Green did play against some tough competition in Texas. But Dayton HS is class 4A and the top class in Texas is 5A so Green and Dayton HS didn't play against the toughest competition in Texas. One of the differences between classes is team speed and the complexity of schemes on defense. Playing in 4A probably added to his highlight reel and might explain some of his early tendencies like locking onto a primary receiver that a 4A defense might not have been capable of taking away.

I think a lot of the expectation for Cody Green to break out in 2010 and become the starting QB is really just hope. However, it is a hope I share after the angst of Zac Lee in 2009.

 

[NUance]

Really, apart from his 4 stars, why is anyone expecting him to be our future?

I am. See above. And sure, it is a tremendous leap in logic. But it's the offseason. So it's all good.

 

[GMoose]

Cody Green needs a chance to be Cody Green. Relatively speaking, I think he is the most talented QB on the roster. He did fine against Baylor in the first half, but then the coaches clammed up with the play calling in the second half and he didn't have much of a shot to show us anything. And against OU...come on, it was OU. One of the best defenses in the country..in his second start as a true freshman. You can't knock him for that. And it's not like Zac came in and saveds the day against OU. The Holiday Bowl argument for Zac Lee is completely invalid to me, Zac went 13/23 (less than 60%) for 173 yards, 74 of which were on one play where the corner covering Niles bit hard on the playfake. And two of Zac's passes in that game were easy picks that Zona DBs simply dropped. Of course Zac deserves a big break due to the torn flexor tendon, but how many players have we seen fall off after injuries.

As for Martinez...his arm is still suspect. If he had a decent arm he would have been recruited as a QB, not a safety. And eventually the coaches will realize we need a good passer who can run second, rather than a run first guy. Maybe that's Spano..but you have to present the surgery argument for him too. We have 2 very good receivers in Paul and Kinnie, we need someone who can get them the ball, not a guy for them to block for.

We won a LOT of games with run 1st qbs Frost, Frazier, Crouch, Lord, etc. I also don't ever remember our run 1st offense looking anything as dismal as our "multiple" 09 offense. Do you?

We do not run the Crouch, Frazier, Lord, option offense anymore. And will not be any time soon. Shawn Watson is going to run his offense, no matter what. The 2008 offense was awesome, with Ganz (A great passer who could get outside the pocket)

 

[zoogs]

Really, apart from his 4 stars, why is anyone expecting him to be our future?

I am. See above. And sure, it is a tremendous leap in logic. But it's the offseason. So it's all good.

yep, it's all good

But just saying - it's pretty bold to say "Cody WILL look like a seasoned vet this year." I guess I read that as a statement. But as a prediction, it's fine - just a pretty bold one.

 

[Redmusky]

Injury shminjury! ZL is not enough. If someone doesn't rise above him, we are in deep do-do. He has zero running ability. He is average as a thrower. The injury is overrated. He could still throw a spiral 50 yards without falling to the ground in agony. Just because you need post season surgery doesn't mean you were hampered to a serious degree. He threw behind guys before he was hurt. It never looked like he had any arm strength. Will a real Nebraska quarterback please stand up. :koolaid2: :koolaid2:

I'm not a lee fan but if he is the best we will have a hard time winning 10 games

 

[Enhance]

Injury shminjury! ZL is not enough. If someone doesn't rise above him, we are in deep do-do. He has zero running ability. He is average as a thrower. The injury is overrated. He could still throw a spiral 50 yards without falling to the ground in agony. Just because you need post season surgery doesn't mean you were hampered to a serious degree. He threw behind guys before he was hurt. It never looked like he had any arm strength. Will a real Nebraska quarterback please stand up. :koolaid2: :koolaid2:

I'm not a lee fan but if he is the best we will have a hard time winning 10 games

This is why this whole thing is a sticky situation.

When you look at Lee, we have a guy who has a really good arm and is actually quite athletic. He was injured early in the season and it ended up affecting his performance. So all we really know about Zac is from his one truly healthy game against a Sun Belt team, and he looked pretty good. After that, things get a little fuzzy. We saw the good he could offer, but we also saw the bad that could be offered up because of the injury.

We then look at Green, who is very athletic and has a very good arm. That said, we don't know a lot about him either. He looked as good as advertised against Sun Belt teams and looked good in the first half against Baylor. He then made a very costly, very "Freshman" interception against Baylor, and then never really looked in-sync the rest of the year. But don't forget, he led a really good scoring drive against TT late in the game, so the potential is there for him.

After those two, what is there to work with? We have a converted LB to QB in Latravis Washington who only played sparingly all year. We then have Spano, a guy who has yet to see the field because of injuries. We then have Martinez and Carnes who are also relatively unknown, yet there are a lot of good things we are hearing about Martinez.

I know one thing, and that thing is that I want Cody to be the starter this year. Not because I dislike Lee, but because I want him to prove to everybody that he can play consistently well. If he can't take the starting job with Lee out of practice, then I don't think he's the player we all think he is. He may not be as mentally ready to play this game as we thought.

 

[kansas husker]

Injury shminjury! ZL is not enough. If someone doesn't rise above him, we are in deep do-do. He has zero running ability. He is average as a thrower. The injury is overrated. He could still throw a spiral 50 yards without falling to the ground in agony. Just because you need post season surgery doesn't mean you were hampered to a serious degree. He threw behind guys before he was hurt. It never looked like he had any arm strength. Will a real Nebraska quarterback please stand up. :koolaid2: :koolaid2:

I'm not a lee fan but if he is the best we will have a hard time winning 10 games

How are you not a fan of every kid on the roster? Lee, Green, Spano I could care less who wins the battle and I will be happy ot jump on the bandwagon of the starter.

Green will more than likely improve due the the extra year( I'm counting on the same thing from the OL). Lee will like improve due to not being injured. And I would love to see spano and t mart get some quality reps but in my mind it is a 2 horse race.