Iowa game

Ok lets look at history, in the top 10, the B10 has 3 all time winningest programs, which Iowa has played for a hundred years (except State). B12 (not counting Nebraska, cuz you cant play yourself) has 2 (which if you go back to big 8 days, how many????). So if you want to comapare records, than atleast take into consideration who you were playing.

Also Historicly lets look at teams in general ( not just ones with great records),

" Ironically, Nebraska has quite a history playing Big Ten schools in football. It may come as a surprise that Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St., and Purdue all have winning records against the boys from Lincoln." AND "Nebraska holds a one-game lead over Wisconsin in their series, 3-2." So B1G had 11 teams or used to be 10, and 6 of those have winning records against you, with one looking to tie it up. I would therefore have to assume if you had been B1G for the last centery your record might not be as good as it is either. So I will say it AGAIN, the smugness and bravado is not only unwarrented and an insult to your new conference, it down right makes you look like a bunch of azzes.
What a cute post. Bravo on the all-time record numbers, nice job of leaving out the ones that don't support your point. You were pretty quick to point out how Nebraska leads Wisconsin 3-2, yet Michigan is only trailing Michigan by 3-2-1. Purdue leads the bitter Pur.-NU rivalry 1-0 after a legendary battle in 1958. Penn state only leads the series by one, 7-6. Ohio St. leads 2-0, and those two haven't met since the 50's either. Indiana leads the series by two games, 9-7-3, with the last game coming in 1978 (a 52 NU victory, btw).

Solid effort, but I'm going to assume you didn't look to deep into those records.
Ok, theres my point exactly, you want to throw out those games, so be it. That takes care of what the 50's 60's and 70's, so where are you stuck then??? The 80's and 90's. Point made???? I wasnt the one who bought up all time winningest records now was I?
Illinois (Iowa trails, 29-38-2) lulz

Kansas (Iowa trails, 4-6) lulz

Michigan (Iowa trails, 12-40-4) mega lulz

Ohio State (Iowa trails, 14-46-3) mega lulz

Purdue (Iowa trails, 33-45-3) lulz

Nebraska holds a one-game lead over Wisconsin in their series, 3-2."
Better than a no game lead

Wisconsin (series tied, 42-42-2)

Oh yeah

Nebraska (Iowa trails, 12-26-3) lulz

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If you're going to remove Texas from the conversation you can remove Penn State as well, since they've only been part of the Big 10 two years longer than Texas was part of the Big 12. So you have Ohio State and Michigan, and a bunch of perennially mediocre teams. How does that make your conference tougher than ours, again? Let's break this down, and we'll do it your way:

Let's compare Nebraska's and Iowa's opponents over the last century or so. Using only the old Big 8 schools (so no Texas, A&M, Baylor or Tech) and removing Penn State, each conference looks like this:

Big 10

Michigan

Ohio State

Minnesota

Michigan State

Wisconsin

Purdue

Illinois

Northwestern

Indiana

Big 8

Oklahoma

Colorado

Missouri

Kansas

Oklahoma State

Iowa State

Kansas State

All time, the teams in the Big 10 list average 621 wins, 461 losses. The teams in the Big 8 list average 584 wins, 497 losses. The teams in the Big 10 list have played football for an average of 119 years; the teams in the Big 8 list have played for an average of 114 years.

Simple math tells you that teams in the Big 10 list average, all time, 5.21 wins per year and 3.87 losses. Teams in the Big 8 list average 5.13 wins per year and 4.36 losses. This is a nearly identical conference SOS for Iowa & Nebraska over the last century, give or take a decade.

Taking into consideration the teams we were playing doesn't really bolster your argument now, does it?

Now, you want to talk about Nebraska's individual records against teams like Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St, let's do that, too.

Illinois - Nebraska leads the series 7-2-1. The Illini last beat Nebraska in 1924. Nebraska has won the last two meetings by an average score of 56-20. Mr. Mack clearly needs to do better research, but whatever.

Indiana - Indiana leads the series 9-7-3. Nebraska has won the last four meetings by an average score of 48-11. Indiana has not beaten Nebraska since 1959.

Michigan - Michigan leads the series 3-2-1. Nebraska beat Michigan in their most recent meeting, the 2005 Alamo Bowl.

Ohio State - OSU leads the series 2-0 (games played in '55 & '56)

Penn State - PSU leads the series 7-6. Nebraska beat Penn State in their most recent meeting in 2003. Penn State has won three of the last five dating back to 1981, with the 1982 game being won by Penn State on two of the most egregiously blown calls in the history of college sports, all within the last 90 seconds of the game, one of which was the game-winning TD (which clearly hit the turf), the other of which was a "catch" that set up the TD-scoring play, where the receiver admitted he caught the ball two yards out of bounds.

No matter how you slice it, Nebraska has had nearly equal conference opponents to Iowa, but we have 230 more wins and five National Championships to Iowa's zero.

Who's talking out of their azzes again?

 
Ok lets look at history, in the top 10, the B10 has 3 all time winningest programs, which Iowa has played for a hundred years (except State). B12 (not counting Nebraska, cuz you cant play yourself) has 2 (which if you go back to big 8 days, how many????). So if you want to comapare records, than atleast take into consideration who you were playing.

Also Historicly lets look at teams in general ( not just ones with great records),

" Ironically, Nebraska has quite a history playing Big Ten schools in football. It may come as a surprise that Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St., and Purdue all have winning records against the boys from Lincoln." AND "Nebraska holds a one-game lead over Wisconsin in their series, 3-2." So B1G had 11 teams or used to be 10, and 6 of those have winning records against you, with one looking to tie it up. I would therefore have to assume if you had been B1G for the last centery your record might not be as good as it is either. So I will say it AGAIN, the smugness and bravado is not only unwarrented and an insult to your new conference, it down right makes you look like a bunch of azzes.
What a cute post. Bravo on the all-time record numbers, nice job of leaving out the ones that don't support your point. You were pretty quick to point out how Nebraska leads Wisconsin 3-2, yet Michigan is only trailing Michigan by 3-2-1. Purdue leads the bitter Pur.-NU rivalry 1-0 after a legendary battle in 1958. Penn state only leads the series by one, 7-6. Ohio St. leads 2-0, and those two haven't met since the 50's either. Indiana leads the series by two games, 9-7-3, with the last game coming in 1978 (a 52 NU victory, btw).

Solid effort, but I'm going to assume you didn't look to deep into those records.
Ok, theres my point exactly, you want to throw out those games, so be it. That takes care of what the 50's 60's and 70's, so where are you stuck then??? The 80's and 90's. Point made???? I wasnt the one who bought up all time winningest records now was I?
Holy hyperbole Batman! Takes care of the 50's, 60's and 70's? Just because some of those series were last played in the those decades doesn't mean they weren't any good, that's a ridiculous conclusion to jump to. The 60's and 70's were the resurgence and subsequent dominant eras in NU football leading into the 80's.

 
the way Iowa fans view Nebraska is the same way Iowa State fans view Iowa. I live in Hawkeye country. ISU fans hate the Hawks because they're the big brother they can't beat at anything meaningful. ISU is just inferior.

Iowa: you used to be the big brother, but with Nebraska rolling into the Big Ten, you just found out you're actually adopted and have a bigger brother that's now in the picture. You are now a middle child who's biggest game of the year is against Big Red. Nebraska's calendar has Ohio State circled.

 
the way Iowa fans view Nebraska is the same way Iowa State fans view Iowa. I live in Hawkeye country. ISU fans hate the Hawks because they're the big brother they can't beat at anything meaningful. ISU is just inferior.

Iowa: you used to be the big brother, but with Nebraska rolling into the Big Ten, you just found out you're actually adopted and have a bigger brother that's now in the picture. You are now a middle child who's biggest game of the year is against Big Red. Nebraska's calendar has Ohio State circled.
nice, kind of what i was thinking, but you beat me to it. :thumbs

 
In looking at more all-time records, I like how Nebraska's two worst records are series in which they trail by 9 games. Iowa trails Nebraska by more than that and are down by 32! to Michigan. Talk about being teams' little brother! I wonder what I'll be doing when I'm 58 and the series is tied (assuming, of course, that Iowa wins every game with Michigan over the next 32 years).

 
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the way Iowa fans view Nebraska is the same way Iowa State fans view Iowa. I live in Hawkeye country. ISU fans hate the Hawks because they're the big brother they can't beat at anything meaningful. ISU is just inferior.

Iowa: you used to be the big brother, but with Nebraska rolling into the Big Ten, you just found out you're actually adopted and have a bigger brother that's now in the picture. You are now a middle child who's biggest game of the year is against Big Red. Nebraska's calendar has Ohio State circled.
Oh my god, you all have to be drunk, cuz this is just like arguing with a drunk person.

Cant wait till the season gets here. Oh and just for the record, clapping for a team, while thinking you are so much better than them, shows just what you are made of and was the point to this whole arguement. Show some real class, and not just being a smug two faced ****.

 
Oh my god, you all have to be drunk, cuz this is just like arguing with a drunk person.
Something we can all agree on, I'm sure. :rolleyes:

Cant wait till the season gets here. Oh and just for the record, clapping for a team, while thinking you are so much better than them, shows just what you are made of and was the point to this whole arguement. Show some real class, and not just being a smug two faced ****.
So now you're mad because we show respect to our opponent? What should we do, boo them off the field? :dunno

 
Oh my god, you all have to be drunk, cuz this is just like arguing with a drunk person.
Something we can all agree on, I'm sure. :rolleyes:

Cant wait till the season gets here. Oh and just for the record, clapping for a team, while thinking you are so much better than them, shows just what you are made of and was the point to this whole arguement. Show some real class, and not just being a smug two faced ****.
So now you're mad because we show respect to our opponent? What should we do, boo them off the field? :dunno
Clapping while feeling like you are better than is not respect, it's condesending. If thats your deal it's no wonder you had a big target on your back in the B12 and you will most likely with that type of attitude have that same target in the B1G. I can honestly say I respect many teams in the B1G, but you all are making it real hard to feel that way about Nebraska. In the end you all have your past, but it doesnt mean squat to anybody in the B1G, we just wanna know what you are going to do from this point forward to improve on the conference. I know you all have a good program which should help the conference as a whole, and you bring fresh ideas along as well, we like that. But you can leave the chest pounding and smugness at the door. I have talked to many fans from other B1G teams and not once have I ran into the arrogance of a Nebraska fan, even thou some of them have better history than Nebraska.

 
Ok lets look at history, in the top 10, the B10 has 3 all time winningest programs, which Iowa has played for a hundred years (except State). B12 (not counting Nebraska, cuz you cant play yourself) has 2 (which if you go back to big 8 days, how many????). So if you want to comapare records, than atleast take into consideration who you were playing.

Also Historicly lets look at teams in general ( not just ones with great records),

" Ironically, Nebraska has quite a history playing Big Ten schools in football. It may come as a surprise that Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Ohio State, Penn St., and Purdue all have winning records against the boys from Lincoln." AND "Nebraska holds a one-game lead over Wisconsin in their series, 3-2." So B1G had 11 teams or used to be 10, and 6 of those have winning records against you, with one looking to tie it up. I would therefore have to assume if you had been B1G for the last centery your record might not be as good as it is either. So I will say it AGAIN, the smugness and bravado is not only unwarrented and an insult to your new conference, it down right makes you look like a bunch of azzes.
What a cute post. Bravo on the all-time record numbers, nice job of leaving out the ones that don't support your point. You were pretty quick to point out how Nebraska leads Wisconsin 3-2, yet Michigan is only trailing Michigan by 3-2-1. Purdue leads the bitter Pur.-NU rivalry 1-0 after a legendary battle in 1958. Penn state only leads the series by one, 7-6. Ohio St. leads 2-0, and those two haven't met since the 50's either. Indiana leads the series by two games, 9-7-3, with the last game coming in 1978 (a 52 NU victory, btw).

Solid effort, but I'm going to assume you didn't look to deep into those records.
Ok, theres my point exactly, you want to throw out those games, so be it. That takes care of what the 50's 60's and 70's, so where are you stuck then??? The 80's and 90's. Point made???? I wasnt the one who bought up all time winningest records now was I?
Illinois (Iowa trails, 29-38-2) lulz

Kansas (Iowa trails, 4-6) lulz

Michigan (Iowa trails, 12-40-4) mega lulz

Ohio State (Iowa trails, 14-46-3) mega lulz

Purdue (Iowa trails, 33-45-3) lulz

Nebraska holds a one-game lead over Wisconsin in their series, 3-2."
Better than a no game lead

Wisconsin (series tied, 42-42-2)

Oh yeah

Nebraska (Iowa trails, 12-26-3) lulz

Souce: http://www.hawkeyesp...es-results.html
Zing!

 
Oh my god, you all have to be drunk, cuz this is just like arguing with a drunk person.
Something we can all agree on, I'm sure. :rolleyes:

Cant wait till the season gets here. Oh and just for the record, clapping for a team, while thinking you are so much better than them, shows just what you are made of and was the point to this whole arguement. Show some real class, and not just being a smug two faced ****.
So now you're mad because we show respect to our opponent? What should we do, boo them off the field? :dunno
Clapping while feeling like you are better than is not respect, it's condesending. If thats your deal it's no wonder you had a big target on your back in the B12 and you will most likely with that type of attitude have that same target in the B1G. I can honestly say I respect many teams in the B1G, but you all are making it real hard to feel that way about Nebraska. In the end you all have your past, but it doesnt mean squat to anybody in the B1G, we just wanna know what you are going to do from this point forward to improve on the conference. I know you all have a good program which should help the conference as a whole, and you bring fresh ideas along as well, we like that. But you can leave the chest pounding and smugness at the door. I have talked to many fans from other B1G teams and not once have I ran into the arrogance of a Nebraska fan, even thou some of them have better history than Nebraska.
That's just an ignorant comment. You clearly have zero idea what you're talking about. Let me help:

I have been coaching college football the past 28 years and have played before some great crowds in this country. I have never seen people with more class than I saw at Nebraska last week. The Nebraska fans, players, cheerleaders, band, officials, coaches, etc., gave me a living testimony of what college football should be all about. I actually had the feeling that when we upset the Nebraska team that instead of hate and spite, the Nebraska fans thanked us for coming to Lincoln and putting on a good show. This is nearly unheard of in today's society. Nebraska, you are a great example for Americans to copy. I hope we show half the class your people do.
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Everybody is talking about Nebraska fans may not give us as good a welcome. I think they will. They’re tremendous fans. I’ve never seen teams that clap for the other team when they leave the field. It’s just an amazing place to me. And we’ve tried to model ourself – our fans in some cases will stand up for the other team as they leave the field, and that was modeled at Nebraska.
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Brown said he still cherishes the memory of fans clapping for Ricky Williams and chanting "Heisman, Heisman" after Williams ran for 150 yards in a 20-16 upset of Nebraska in 1998, a loss that ended the Huskers’ 47-game home win streak.
"I’ve always said that when you play at Lincoln, it’s one of the special places to play in college football and I still believe that," Brown said this week. "The fans love their team. I’ve never seen an empty seat in that stadium, going in or coming out. They stay till the end. I don’t think anybody treats opposing teams better than they do.
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They've got great fans and are very supportive. They respect another good football team and always applaud them.
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Bowden's record against Nebraska: 6-2

Mack Brown's record against Nebraska: 8-1

Bob Stoops' record against Nebraska: 6-2

At this point I'm kinda starting to feel sorry for you. All this crap you're saying is so easy to debunk, or prove to be outright false. Are you feeling OK today? Just off your game or something?

 
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Oh my god, you all have to be drunk, cuz this is just like arguing with a drunk person.
Something we can all agree on, I'm sure. :rolleyes:

Cant wait till the season gets here. Oh and just for the record, clapping for a team, while thinking you are so much better than them, shows just what you are made of and was the point to this whole arguement. Show some real class, and not just being a smug two faced ****.
So now you're mad because we show respect to our opponent? What should we do, boo them off the field? :dunno
Clapping while feeling like you are better than is not respect, it's condesending. If thats your deal it's no wonder you had a big target on your back in the B12 and you will most likely with that type of attitude have that same target in the B1G. I can honestly say I respect many teams in the B1G, but you all are making it real hard to feel that way about Nebraska. In the end you all have your past, but it doesnt mean squat to anybody in the B1G, we just wanna know what you are going to do from this point forward to improve on the conference. I know you all have a good program which should help the conference as a whole, and you bring fresh ideas along as well, we like that. But you can leave the chest pounding and smugness at the door. I have talked to many fans from other B1G teams and not once have I ran into the arrogance of a Nebraska fan, even thou some of them have better history than Nebraska.
We expect our team to win every game because we have faith in our team that they will play their very best and come away with the win. You might think that's arrogance, but I think that is confidence. You can't win a game unless you are confident that you can win. We have confidence in our team that they can win every game they play, why do you think we have 300+ sellouts? Win or lose, however, we respect our opponents because we know they played their hearts out and gave our team a good fight.

Now do I think this will be a rivalry. It might, but like others have said you can't force a rivalry. If the games are close and always have division title implications riding on them, then it will become a rivalry. But it will be a few years before we know for sure.

 
Never mind. You all have convinced me Nebraska is not worth being Iowa's rival. I agree, it's just another game. I think they should move it to the first game, that way once the first four are over I can watch the Hawks play the traditional B1G teams, cuz you all just don't quite fit in just yet. You all can pick your last game and we will take Bucky or OH ST. back for our last one after all we have been pounding the rock with them for some time.

 
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