Military given go-ahead to detain US terrorist suspects without trial

carlfense said:
husker_99 said:
carlfense said:
Post his straw man arguments. That, or admit that you were wrong.

Or just run away like you appear to be doing.
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this is what knapp said:

Killing the world's most-wanted man, and doing it in the territory of a Nuclear Power, is not a small thing. It's absurd to minimize this. You don't have to like Obama in any way to recognize the gravity of this decision, and to give him approbation for the successful accomplishment of this task. Let's not for a second pretend that the GOP/Tea Party wouldn't have trumpeted this to the heavens if a Republican president (say, George Bush) had accomplished this goal.

had nothing to do with what i said before about how the Pakistani government doesn't even have complete control of their own government. or hell even anything at all.

what i said: I told you going into Pakistan was no problem cause the government didn't have full control of their country. Solely crediting Obama with the kill is absurd. Without of those years of Bush pursuing him Osama would be alive today and Obama wouldn't have gotten a chance to kill him. It was a symbolic kill. Killing Osama isn't going to stop terrorism. I dont really care if he was dead or alive cause there were bigger problems than him.

knapps response: This is utter BS. Laughable. But whatever. You can believe what you want to believe.

I didn't know terrorism is now officially over since Osama bin Laden is dead.

I told knapp that Bush was focusing on overall terrorism and not just one guy but yet knapp failed to realize this. I haven't been running away from anything, i don't live on this board like you and knapp seem to do.
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Bush gave up on Osama. He said so himself. Your statement in bold is factually incorrect.
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He flushed Osama out of the caves in tora bora that he was hiding in. I even said Bush gave up cause he was fighting a bigger war than just one man. he was making sure the Tablian was out of Afghanistan.

 
He flushed bin Laden out of the caves of Tora Bora?

Ohhhhhhh! I see. You are trying to make it sound like letting him escape to live comfortably in Pakistan was a good thing.

Thanks husker 99. You're always good for a laughably transparent GOP talking point. :P

 
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husker_99 said:
carlfense said:
Ohhhhhhh! I see. You are trying to make it sound like letting him escape to live comfortably in Pakistan was a good thing.
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did i say that? no i didn't.
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Ah. You're admitting that Bush let Bin Laden escape and that he gave up on finding him. Then after Obama made getting Bin Laden a priority and succeeded . . . that we should credit Bush.

That doesn't make sense.

husker_99 said:
He flushed Osama out of the caves in tora bora that he was hiding in.
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carlfense said:
husker_99 said:
carlfense said:
Ohhhhhhh! I see. You are trying to make it sound like letting him escape to live comfortably in Pakistan was a good thing.
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did i say that? no i didn't.
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Ah. You're admitting that Bush let Bin Laden escape and that he gave up on finding him. Then after Obama made getting Bin Laden a priority and succeeded . . . that we should credit Bush.

That doesn't make sense.

husker_99 said:
He flushed Osama out of the caves in tora bora that he was hiding in.
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Once again that is not what i said. I love your liberal talking points and making up stuff since that is what you and knapp do best.

 
husker_99 said:
Once again that is not what i said. I love your liberal talking points and making up stuff since that is what you and knapp do best.
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If you're going to claim that I'm making stuff up you'll have to claim that I hacked your account and posted this under your name.

Here is what you said:

husker_99 said:
Without of those years of Bush pursuing him Osama would be alive today and Obama wouldn't have gotten a chance to kill him.
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You see that? That's you trying to credit Bush for the killing of Bin Laden. I can show you quotes where Bush said Bin Laden wasn't a priority, that he didn't think about him much, etc. (Keeping in mind that Bush had vowed to get him before failing and giving up.)

You, and the GOP media will still try to say that Obama doesn't deserve credit. That sort of blind gullibility is always good for a chuckle.

Hook, line, and sinker.

 
carlfense said:
husker_99 said:
Once again that is not what i said. I love your liberal talking points and making up stuff since that is what you and knapp do best.
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If you're going to claim that I'm making stuff up you'll have to claim that I hacked your account and posted this under your name.

Here is what you said:

husker_99 said:
Without of those years of Bush pursuing him Osama would be alive today and Obama wouldn't have gotten a chance to kill him.
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You see that? That's you trying to credit Bush for the killing of Bin Laden. I can show you quotes where Bush said Bin Laden wasn't a priority, that he didn't think about him much, etc. (Keeping in mind that Bush had vowed to get him before failing and giving up.)

You, and the GOP media will still try to say that Obama doesn't deserve credit. That sort of blind gullibility is always good for a chuckle.

Hook, line, and sinker.
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LOL :laughpound

I never said Obama doesn't deserve credit just not sole credit.

 
carlfense said:
husker_99 said:
I never said Obama doesn't deserve credit just not sole credit.
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Does Bush deserve credit?
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Yes some of it. Do you think that he didn't keep his people still tracking Osama? How would you explain Obama killed Osama so quickly if Obama did it all by himself? He didn't. that's one of the reasons he kept the same general that Bush had. Bush started hunting down Osama and Obama finished him off.

 
husker_99 said:
Yes some of it. Do you think that he didn't keep his people still tracking Osama? How would you explain Obama killed Osama so quickly if Obama did it all by himself? He didn't. that's one of the reasons he kept the same general that Bush had. Bush started hunting down Osama and Obama finished him off.
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No one, at any time, asserted this. This is what you would call a "straw man."

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knapplc said:
husker_99 said:
Yes some of it. Do you think that he didn't keep his people still tracking Osama? How would you explain Obama killed Osama so quickly if Obama did it all by himself? He didn't. that's one of the reasons he kept the same general that Bush had. Bush started hunting down Osama and Obama finished him off.
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No one, at any time, asserted this. This is what you would call a "straw man."

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yes you did cause i stated it clearly earlier if you had bothered to read, which it seems you now didn't.

 
husker_99 said:
knapplc said:
husker_99 said:
Yes some of it. Do you think that he didn't keep his people still tracking Osama? How would you explain Obama killed Osama so quickly if Obama did it all by himself? He didn't. that's one of the reasons he kept the same general that Bush had. Bush started hunting down Osama and Obama finished him off.
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No one, at any time, asserted this. This is what you would call a "straw man."

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yes you did cause i stated it clearly earlier if you had bothered to read, which it seems you now didn't.
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No one but YOU stated that. Then you tried to attribute that view to others. That is a straw man argument.

Now you know.

 
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