Batman Massacre - 12 Killed in Theater shooting; internet forum partially responsible

zoogies said:
TonyStalloni said:
I just read a news flash that said the Aurora Police would use a robot to detonate the apartment where this young man apparently booby trapped. It's understandable that no bomb expert in their right mind would want to do this job, but the conspiracy theorists will say that doing this will destroy most of the evidence and cover the tracks of "anyone" who may have helped him.
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Looks like the conspiracy theorists will have to be put on hold:

http://www.reuters.c...E86J0AM20120722

Bomb experts used a remote-controlled robot to enter Holmes' apartment in Aurora and disabled two trip wires connected to a series of 30 improvised explosives that authorities said would likely have blown up the entire three-story apartment building.
By late Saturday afternoon, police had removed the last of the devices, packed them in sand in a dump truck and drove them away, a law enforcement source familiar with the matter said.

Authorities said they were working carefully to preserve any evidence in the apartment, which could shed light on the motives for a crime that stunned Aurora and much of the nation.
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I saw that too and am happy the police were able to disarm the apartment. Let's hope they can dig through his records and discover enough evidence to answer the questions we all have. If he had help in the planning, I hope they can find the person. No amount of answers will remove the pain from those who lost loved ones and must go on with their lives.

 
WHO THEY WERE

Aurora movie theater victims

Jessica N. Ghawi, 24

In early June, Jessica Ghawi walked out of a Toronto mall moments before a gunman walked in. The shootings that followed killed two people and wounded half a dozen more.

“I was shown how fragile life was,” Ghawi wrote on her personal blog. “… I was reminded that we don't know when or where our time on Earth will end.”

Ghawi, who went by Jessica Redfield professionally, had moved to Denver from Texas a year ago to pursue a career as a sports journalist. She worked as an intern at Denver sports radio station 104.3 The Fan, and with the You Can Play Project, a gay-rights group that supports equality in the locker room.

"I specialize in sports media and snark," Ghawi wrote on her blog. "Not your typical sarcastic feisty redhead attempting to perfect the trifecta of class, sass, and crass. Yankee born, Texas raised, Colorado blooming."

John T. Larimer, 27

John Larimer had been in the United States Navy for just over a year when he died, officials said. He was a petty officer third class and had been stationed at Aurora’s Buckley Air Force Base since October. Larimer worked as a cryptologic technician in a unit from the U.S. Fleet Cyber Command/U.S. Tenth Fleet.

The Navy informed Larimer’s family of his death Friday, his parents said in a statement. His brother is working with the Navy to bring Larimer’s body home to Crystal Lake, Ill.

"I am incredibly saddened by the loss of Petty Officer John Larimer--he was an outstanding shipmate,” Larimer’s commanding officer, Cmdr. Jeffrey Jakuboski, said in a statement. “A valued member of our Navy team, he will be missed by all who knew him. My heart goes out to John's family, friends and loved ones, as well as to all victims of this horrible tragedy.”

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It's hard to believe a person could be such a monster that they'd kill innocent, random people like this. It's a sad world we live in.

 
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I think Colorado needs to forego the trial by jury of 12 peers and proceed directly to a firing squad of 12 sharpshooters all aimed at his head and fire one round each for each of the 12 victims.

 
I wish the media would stop having circle jerk sessions over tragedies like this. It makes me sick.

 
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HuskerfaninOkieland said:
This whole situation only strengthens my belief in conceal/carry
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in a dark, crowded movie theater where a sociopath threw a smoke/gas bomb, i do not think another weapon carried by a civilian would have helped much. what would have helped is if civilians were prohibited from assault weapons, especially with extended magazines.

edit: also, colorado is a conceal/carry state.

 
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Why do so many people want this guy dead? Im sorry, maybe its just me, but I want the harshest punishment for this guy. Make the kid live in solitary confinement for the rest of his life. Death is too quick and easy. 70 years living by himself, no contact with anyone is ALOT worse than death IMHO. Make him think about what he did to all these people, make him think about what his life could have been like had he gone for his PhD and made something out of himself. Solitary confinement is more torture than death...

 
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Minnesota_husker said:
Haspula said:
If James Holmes was Arab it'd be "terrorism". If he was black, he'd be a "thug". But he's white, so it's "mental illness" ... Smh
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Dead-on
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Really?

Going to take this to the race card...

How about the Virginia tech shooter...

Oklahoma City Bomber was considered a terrorist.

This is not about race.
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Virginia Tech was of Asian race. It's not hard to see that there isn't as big as stereotype attached to them, at least around here. Bombing will always be considered terrorism, regardless of race. I'd say their statement is pretty accurate.

 
Why does everything have to turn into a racial issue?

This guy either had mental problems or some really screwed up ideals. You can say the same thing for "thugs" or "terrorists." Come on.

 
Lyons in the Sea of Red. said:
Minnesota_husker said:
Haspula said:
If James Holmes was Arab it'd be "terrorism". If he was black, he'd be a "thug". But he's white, so it's "mental illness" ... Smh
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Dead-on
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Really?

Going to take this to the race card...

How about the Virginia tech shooter...

Oklahoma City Bomber was considered a terrorist.

This is not about race.
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Virginia Tech was of Asian race. It's not hard to see that there isn't as big as stereotype attached to them, at least around here. Bombing will always be considered terrorism, regardless of race. I'd say their statement is pretty accurate.
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No it isnt... Everyone turns this crap in to : This race does that... That race does this.... Maybe it is just messed up human beings doing all of this.

I hate the mental illness plea.. Skin color doesnt affect crazy.

 
tschu said:
Why does everything have to turn into a racial issue?

This guy either had mental problems or some really screwed up ideals. You can say the same thing for "thugs" or "terrorists." Come on.
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to be fair, mass killings like this seem to be a uniquely white phenomenon. however, i do agree with you. also, i do think this person obviously had mental issues and you would have to have serious mental problems or screwed up ideals to kill that many innocent people.

 
sd said:
to be fair, mass killings like this seem to be a uniquely white phenomenon.
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Incidents like this: yeah it seems like it, but I think that is likely due to the US being predominantly white.

Remember also that the DC snipers were black and the VT shooter was Asian. People from all walks of life are equally capable of this sort of thing.

 
tschu said:
sd said:
to be fair, mass killings like this seem to be a uniquely white phenomenon.
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Incidents like this: yeah it seems like it, but I think that is likely due to the US being predominantly white.

Remember also that the DC snipers were black and the VT shooter was Asian. People from all walks of life are equally capable of this sort of thing.
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i am not arguing with you about the race thing. i did not include the dc snipers because i thought that was different enough. i think there is something about modern (specifically privileged, suburban) life that facilitates maniacs. i have nothing other than anecdotal evidence and a hunch, but it seems to be a theme.

 
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