2013 PGA Tour Discussion Thread
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Mavric
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He didn't really miss "badly" as far as getting into trouble, but he was 15-20 yards wide several times. Didn't cost him any strokes but he could have gained a few more if he was firing at the pin.
QMany
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Definltey could have fired at pins, but that is why he is so good at closing, because he doesn't fire at pins when he doesn't have to. He closes on Sunday like 92% of the time. He is the best at course management ever.
"I hit it so good today, it was fun. I hit it high, low, left, right, whatever I wanted except for that tee shot at 14. It could have been something really low today, I just had a bunch of lip outs."
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tschu
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Mavric
Yoda
What don't you agree with?
6 - hits a tree right
9 - 20 feet left with a wedge
10- 60 feet
15- left rough probably close to 20 yards
17- 35-40 feet left
Id say that's several approach shots that could have been quite a bit better.
tschu
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You're saying that because he didn't stiff 5 of his approaches that he isn't on top of his iron game?
6 was a really tough approach from where he drove it. Hitting that tree was about par for the course, pardon my pun, from there. It left him in position for a really easy up-and-down.
20 feet with a wedge is a bad shot? It's better than the tour average to the pin from that distance. Not sure how that's a bad shot
10 he was just being smart. You cannot go long/left and shortside yourself or you're going to make bogey. And it wasn't 60 feet, it was 40 feet. Tour average from that distance.
15 - not a good shot.
17 - a safe shot. Really the only smart shot he could have hit there.
Your argument is utterly ridiculous.
(He could, in fact, have been 2 strokes better - his drive on 14.)
6 was a really tough approach from where he drove it. Hitting that tree was about par for the course, pardon my pun, from there. It left him in position for a really easy up-and-down.
20 feet with a wedge is a bad shot? It's better than the tour average to the pin from that distance. Not sure how that's a bad shot
10 he was just being smart. You cannot go long/left and shortside yourself or you're going to make bogey. And it wasn't 60 feet, it was 40 feet. Tour average from that distance.
15 - not a good shot.
17 - a safe shot. Really the only smart shot he could have hit there.
Your argument is utterly ridiculous.
(He could, in fact, have been 2 strokes better - his drive on 14.)
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tschu
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You should watch a tournament where Tiger goes into Sunday up by 4 shots. By your logic, he'll play terribly! Every green he'll be 40 feet away from the hole!
You have to play the situation. He's going to aim for the safe side, or at least the center, of a lot of greens if the situation dictates it. You're asking for trouble if you shortside yourself, especially at Sawgrass. Sawgrass is the ultimate scrambling test.
And expecting every single iron shot to be stiff, even when Tiger is playing at his absolute best, is totally ridiculous
You have to play the situation. He's going to aim for the safe side, or at least the center, of a lot of greens if the situation dictates it. You're asking for trouble if you shortside yourself, especially at Sawgrass. Sawgrass is the ultimate scrambling test.
And expecting every single iron shot to be stiff, even when Tiger is playing at his absolute best, is totally ridiculous
It'sNotAFakeID
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There's definitely a difference between knowing what you can do and what you have to do. I'm betting Tiger wanted to take it right at 17, but that play is incredibly risky and why risk the tournament doing that? Ask Sergio how being aggressive on that hole worked out for him.
Of course there were some shots he wasn't as close as he would've liked, but he recovered well. That's why he won.
tschu
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On 17, Tiger likely aimed right where he hit it and tried to play for a baby cut that would catch the slope and get it close. In that way, he was aimed at the left side of the green, would land on the center of the green, and roll down the slope to the pin. It also gave him the chance to, in the case of mishitting his shot, he could A) make a bad swing and hit it dead straight, ending up on the far side of the green or B) make the opposite bad swing and overcook it short-right, in which case he would have accidentally stuck it pretty close to the pin. He ended up with option A, which is just fine. A 2-putt par, leaving the pressure on his competitors.
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QMany
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In Tiger's interview, he said that was his line on #17. He was going nowhere close to that pin. He wanted to hit a little pull-cut. If it stayed up on that back ledge he would have an easier two-putt and get out of there, if it cut and took the ridge he would be close. If he goes for that pin and gets steep like he did, he might be in the drink. Course management fellas. Allowing himself a miss, unlike Sergio.
QMany
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His cut on 17 was so smart. Short of chunking it, the WORST that could happen is pretty much what happened, getting steep and not getting up on shelf and rolling back. He was trying to hit a pull cut so his miss was a pull. He wasn't going to high-right it into the bunker. He is the best there is when it comes to course management.
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Mavric
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Holy cow. Chill out a little. You act like I'm bashing on Tiger. I just pointed out that a few of his shots were off. I know not every shot will be perfect and I understand you don't shoot directly at every pin but even then he wasn't as sharp as he could have been.
