***2016 Recruiting***
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Warrior10
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Well that's rude. But I agree with Dr. I hope we are doing the same.
Dr. Strangelove
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You're going to have to explain how Nebraska having 17 seniors and being projected to take up to 23 recruits is any different.
All teams have walk-ons they can take scholarships from year-to-year, all teams have transfers, most big name schools have Juniors who declare early. Now that the B1G lets you oversign by 3, it's going to happen a lot more.
I find it hilarious that when Michigan or a team in the SEC does it, it's because it's "dirty" or something. When Nebraska does it, we're the good guys who just naturally have kids transfer.
SouthLincoln Husker
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Atbone95
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He doesn't want your facts, and it's not worth arguing with him. Don't worry about what he's saying.
Dr. Strangelove
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They do the exact same thing. They have transfers and walk-ons to manage scholarships.He doesn't want your facts, and it's not worth arguing with him. Don't worry about what he's saying.
The primary difference is that teams like Alabama and LSU also send numerous underclassmen every year to the NFL, something we don't have to worry about. Thus, they can take even more recruits per class than we can. If Nebraska had an exodus of 5 underclassmen, we'd be able to take 25 or more this year. But Nebraska typically only sends a Junior to the NFL every few seasons, so our recruiting numbers aren't as high as big programs from the SEC.
But beyond that, continue to believe that we're the good guys and the other teams that always recruit better than us are the bad guys. Damn them and their rule breaking! Who cares if they send 5 or 6 underclassmen to the NFL, they're clearly cheating!! GAH!
Atbone95
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If you want facts, here are facts. 16 seniors leaving. NO ONE IS LEAVING TO THE NFL DRAFT. They have four underclassman who were thought might declare early. All of them announced they will be staying. Michigan is still on plenty of top players, and many analysts think they could have 4-5 high profile players pick them either on NSD or in the next 3 weeks. That would put them at 27-28 commitments.They do the exact same thing. They have transfers and walk-ons to manage scholarships.He doesn't want your facts, and it's not worth arguing with him. Don't worry about what he's saying.
The primary difference is that teams like Alabama and LSU also send numerous underclassmen every year to the NFL, something we don't have to worry about. Thus, they can take even more recruits per class than we can. If Nebraska had an exodus of 5 underclassmen, we'd be able to take 25 or more this year. But Nebraska typically only sends a Junior to the NFL every few seasons, so our recruiting numbers aren't as high as big programs from the SEC.
But beyond that, continue to believe that we're the good guys and the other teams that always recruit better than us are the bad guys. Damn them and their rule breaking! Who cares if they send 5 or 6 underclassmen to the NFL, they're clearly cheating!! GAH!
27-28 commitments, with 16 spots. Either the lowest rated of those 27-28 will be asked to move on two weeks from signing day, or there will be players asked to leave the team. I don't care what you say, Michigan's "status quo" is not losing over 10% (11/85) every year in transfers. That's not normal, and you arguing it is is asinine.
Hey, facts. But, like I said, not going to argue with you. Congrats, you won the internet message board argument. Let's celebrate.
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Dr. Strangelove
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I find it annoying when fans blame other schools for doing something "dirty" or that they're "cheating" with nothing to back it up. All fans think their team is a victim, that ESPN unfairly targets them, other teams exploit loopholes that their team doesn't, etc. It gets old.Like I said, not going to argue with you. Congrats, you won the internet message board argument. Let's celebrate.They do the exact same thing. They have transfers and walk-ons to manage scholarships.He doesn't want your facts, and it's not worth arguing with him. Don't worry about what he's saying.
The primary difference is that teams like Alabama and LSU also send numerous underclassmen every year to the NFL, something we don't have to worry about. Thus, they can take even more recruits per class than we can. If Nebraska had an exodus of 5 underclassmen, we'd be able to take 25 or more this year. But Nebraska typically only sends a Junior to the NFL every few seasons, so our recruiting numbers aren't as high as big programs from the SEC.
But beyond that, continue to believe that we're the good guys and the other teams that always recruit better than us are the bad guys. Damn them and their rule breaking! Who cares if they send 5 or 6 underclassmen to the NFL, they're clearly cheating!! GAH!
Atbone95
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You're right, I posted that and then got angry and edited. Go read it again.I find it annoying when fans blame other schools for doing something "dirty" or that they're "cheating" with nothing to back it up. All fans think their team is a victim, that ESPN unfairly targets them, other teams exploit loopholes that their team doesn't, etc. It gets old.Like I said, not going to argue with you. Congrats, you won the internet message board argument. Let's celebrate.They do the exact same thing. They have transfers and walk-ons to manage scholarships.He doesn't want your facts, and it's not worth arguing with him. Don't worry about what he's saying.
The primary difference is that teams like Alabama and LSU also send numerous underclassmen every year to the NFL, something we don't have to worry about. Thus, they can take even more recruits per class than we can. If Nebraska had an exodus of 5 underclassmen, we'd be able to take 25 or more this year. But Nebraska typically only sends a Junior to the NFL every few seasons, so our recruiting numbers aren't as high as big programs from the SEC.
But beyond that, continue to believe that we're the good guys and the other teams that always recruit better than us are the bad guys. Damn them and their rule breaking! Who cares if they send 5 or 6 underclassmen to the NFL, they're clearly cheating!! GAH!
BigRedBuster
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OK....going into the last few weeks of recruiting. Here is what I was able to gather from various recruit's threads on their planned announcement schedule.
Butler. Jan 20th
Jackson Jan 28th
Farniok (probably) week of Jan 25-29
Sails visit weekend of 29-30 and announce after that.
Fitzpatrick Feb 1stI.
Simmons NSD
Watts NSD
Ivey ????
Newman ????
Reese ???
Who am I missing that we are hot after and possibly have an idea of their time table?
Edited to add a couple and to put into some form of chronological order.
Butler. Jan 20th
Jackson Jan 28th
Farniok (probably) week of Jan 25-29
Sails visit weekend of 29-30 and announce after that.
Fitzpatrick Feb 1stI.
Simmons NSD
Watts NSD
Ivey ????
Newman ????
Reese ???
Who am I missing that we are hot after and possibly have an idea of their time table?
Edited to add a couple and to put into some form of chronological order.
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Dr. Strangelove
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I used the SEC as an example to explain the valid point SouthLincoln Husker made regarding the SEC, which doesn't apply to Michigan.If you want facts, here are facts. 16 seniors leaving. NO ONE IS LEAVING TO THE NFL DRAFT. They have four underclassman who were thought might declare early. All of them announced they will be staying. Michigan is still on plenty of top players, and many analysts think they could have 4-5 high profile players pick them either on NSD or in the next 3 weeks. That would put them at 27-28 commitments.They do the exact same thing. They have transfers and walk-ons to manage scholarships.He doesn't want your facts, and it's not worth arguing with him. Don't worry about what he's saying.
The primary difference is that teams like Alabama and LSU also send numerous underclassmen every year to the NFL, something we don't have to worry about. Thus, they can take even more recruits per class than we can. If Nebraska had an exodus of 5 underclassmen, we'd be able to take 25 or more this year. But Nebraska typically only sends a Junior to the NFL every few seasons, so our recruiting numbers aren't as high as big programs from the SEC.
But beyond that, continue to believe that we're the good guys and the other teams that always recruit better than us are the bad guys. Damn them and their rule breaking! Who cares if they send 5 or 6 underclassmen to the NFL, they're clearly cheating!! GAH!
27-28 commitments, with 16 spots. Either the lowest rated of those 27-28 will be asked to move on two weeks from signing day, or there will be players asked to leave the team. I don't care what you say, Michigan's "status quo" is not losing over 10% (11/85) every year in transfers. That's not normal, and you arguing it is is asinine.
Hey, facts. But, like I said, not going to argue with you. Congrats, you won the internet message board argument. Let's celebrate.
The B1G allows you to over-sign by 3, throw in transfers (you remember how Johnny Staton did after we told him he was no longer on the football team, but would honor the scholarship?) and it's conceivable that you can get to the mid 20s, or higher, once you factor in any non-contributing underclassmen you can take off scholarship who have already graduated, just like Nebraska does, plus injured players who can no longer play. I'd wager they have a few recruits who will enroll early, which allows you to have fun with numbers (legally) in order to abide by B1G and NCAA scholarship rules.
Give it up if you really think Michigan is behaving any differently than we are. Nebraska has room for 17, we're going to take 23 or possibly more. There isn't a difference.
desertshox
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wasnt he just left off the 105 man roster at the beginning of fall camp?I used the SEC as an example to explain the valid point SouthLincoln Husker made regarding the SEC, which doesn't apply to Michigan.If you want facts, here are facts. 16 seniors leaving. NO ONE IS LEAVING TO THE NFL DRAFT. They have four underclassman who were thought might declare early. All of them announced they will be staying. Michigan is still on plenty of top players, and many analysts think they could have 4-5 high profile players pick them either on NSD or in the next 3 weeks. That would put them at 27-28 commitments.They do the exact same thing. They have transfers and walk-ons to manage scholarships.He doesn't want your facts, and it's not worth arguing with him. Don't worry about what he's saying.
The primary difference is that teams like Alabama and LSU also send numerous underclassmen every year to the NFL, something we don't have to worry about. Thus, they can take even more recruits per class than we can. If Nebraska had an exodus of 5 underclassmen, we'd be able to take 25 or more this year. But Nebraska typically only sends a Junior to the NFL every few seasons, so our recruiting numbers aren't as high as big programs from the SEC.
But beyond that, continue to believe that we're the good guys and the other teams that always recruit better than us are the bad guys. Damn them and their rule breaking! Who cares if they send 5 or 6 underclassmen to the NFL, they're clearly cheating!! GAH!
27-28 commitments, with 16 spots. Either the lowest rated of those 27-28 will be asked to move on two weeks from signing day, or there will be players asked to leave the team. I don't care what you say, Michigan's "status quo" is not losing over 10% (11/85) every year in transfers. That's not normal, and you arguing it is is asinine.
Hey, facts. But, like I said, not going to argue with you. Congrats, you won the internet message board argument. Let's celebrate.
The B1G allows you to over-sign by 3, throw in transfers (you remember how Johnny Staton did after we told him he was no longer on the football team, but would honor the scholarship?) and it's conceivable that you can get to the mid 20s, or higher, once you factor in any non-contributing underclassmen you can take off scholarship who have already graduated, just like Nebraska does, plus injured players who can no longer play. I'd wager they have a few recruits who will enroll early, which allows you to have fun with numbers (legally) in order to abide by B1G and NCAA scholarship rules.
Give it up if you really think Michigan is behaving any differently than we are. Nebraska has room for 17, we're going to take 23 or possibly more. There isn't a difference.
Warrior10
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Reese is enrolling at Florida soon.