*** 2017 Recruiting ***

gbr93:

Also, I'm guessing you know this, but in case others don't, 247 only takes into account a team's top 15 rated recruits when evaluating class rankings. I like that they do that, but I think it should be top 20 to illustrate depth of class a little better.
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That's not what their web site says.

  • Explanation
    [*]In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
    [*]Each recruit is weighted in the rankings according to a Gaussian distribution formula(a bell curve), where a team's best recruit is worth the most points. You can think of a team's point score as being the sum of ratings of all the team's commits where the best recruit is worth 100% of his rating value, the second best recruit is worth nearly 100% of his rating value, down to the last recruit who is worth a small fraction of his rating value. This formula ensures that all commits contribute at least some value to the team's score without heavily rewarding teams that have several more commitments than others.
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worldsworstoutdoorsman said:
BigRedBuster said:
MattyIce said:
If we're at 15 and saying we want 22... it's a little off.

We're looking at 3 DB's, 3 WR, 1 RB, 1 OT, 1 DL, 1 LB. That means we are looking at 25 in this class.
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According to whom?

Riley said 22.

Now, I agree with you. I think it should be closer to 25 especially if we have the top recruits on the board wanting to commit.
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Barring some departures, 24 is the max right now.
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But, I expect to see some departures.

 
BigRedBuster said:
Wow...I did a class calculator simulation and added my wish list of:

Greg Johnson = Predictions coming in for Nebraska

Sarell = coaches have been after him for 4 years. Good in home visit.

Lewis = picked up a CB yesterday

Shelvin = Actually planning to visit...but, still a long shot

Lenoir = chances went up when he decommitted from Oregon

Isaac-Slade = don't know much about his intentions

Jamire Calvin = very interested in Nebraska

This would put us at 22 recruits like what Riley indicated yesterday. We would end up with 10 recruits at 4
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or better (3 - 5
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). We would have an average rating of .8969 which is a 4
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rating.

We still wouldn't break the top 10 in recruiting classes if you compare that score with the last three years rankings.

I think this would make one hell of a class and we still wouldn't make the top ten.

I am a little surprised that Riley doesn't think this class will be slightly bigger than that.
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Nice job, but I live in a world where it only matters if we are ranked higher than Iowa... So are we?

 
MattyIce said:
BigRedBuster said:
Wow...I did a class calculator simulation and added my wish list of:

Greg Johnson = Predictions coming in for Nebraska

Sarell = coaches have been after him for 4 years. Good in home visit.

Lewis = picked up a CB yesterday

Shelvin = Actually planning to visit...but, still a long shot

Lenoir = chances went up when he decommitted from Oregon

Isaac-Slade = don't know much about his intentions

Jamire Calvin = very interested in Nebraska

This would put us at 22 recruits like what Riley indicated yesterday. We would end up with 10 recruits at 4
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or better (3 - 5
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). We would have an average rating of .8969 which is a 4
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rating.

We still wouldn't break the top 10 in recruiting classes if you compare that score with the last three years rankings.

I think this would make one hell of a class and we still wouldn't make the top ten.

I am a little surprised that Riley doesn't think this class will be slightly bigger than that.
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Nice job, but I live in a world where it only matters if we are ranked higher than Iowa... So are we?
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yes

 
BigRedBuster said:
gbr93:

Also, I'm guessing you know this, but in case others don't, 247 only takes into account a team's top 15 rated recruits when evaluating class rankings. I like that they do that, but I think it should be top 20 to illustrate depth of class a little better.
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That's not what their web site says.

  • Explanation
    [*]In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
    [*]Each recruit is weighted in the rankings according to a Gaussian distribution formula(a bell curve), where a team's best recruit is worth the most points. You can think of a team's point score as being the sum of ratings of all the team's commits where the best recruit is worth 100% of his rating value, the second best recruit is worth nearly 100% of his rating value, down to the last recruit who is worth a small fraction of his rating value. This formula ensures that all commits contribute at least some value to the team's score without heavily rewarding teams that have several more commitments than others.
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Yeah I posted that off of memory, I swear I read that on their website, but I quickly went to check to make sure and could no longer find it. Was just coming back to edit my post

 
gbr93 said:
BigRedBuster said:
gbr93:

Also, I'm guessing you know this, but in case others don't, 247 only takes into account a team's top 15 rated recruits when evaluating class rankings. I like that they do that, but I think it should be top 20 to illustrate depth of class a little better.
Click to expand...
That's not what their web site says.

  • Explanation
    [*]In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
    [*]Each recruit is weighted in the rankings according to a Gaussian distribution formula(a bell curve), where a team's best recruit is worth the most points. You can think of a team's point score as being the sum of ratings of all the team's commits where the best recruit is worth 100% of his rating value, the second best recruit is worth nearly 100% of his rating value, down to the last recruit who is worth a small fraction of his rating value. This formula ensures that all commits contribute at least some value to the team's score without heavily rewarding teams that have several more commitments than others.
    Click to expand...
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Yeah I posted that off of memory, I swear I read that on their website, but I quickly went to check to make sure and could no longer find it. Was just coming back to edit my post
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You're probably thinking of Rivals. IIRC, they base their ratings of the top 20 commits.

 
Mavric said:
gbr93 said:
BigRedBuster said:
gbr93:

Also, I'm guessing you know this, but in case others don't, 247 only takes into account a team's top 15 rated recruits when evaluating class rankings. I like that they do that, but I think it should be top 20 to illustrate depth of class a little better.
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That's not what their web site says.

  • Explanation
    [*]In order to create the most comprehensive Team Recruiting Ranking without any notion of bias, 247Sports Team Recruiting Ranking is solely based on the 247Sports Composite Rating.
    [*]Each recruit is weighted in the rankings according to a Gaussian distribution formula(a bell curve), where a team's best recruit is worth the most points. You can think of a team's point score as being the sum of ratings of all the team's commits where the best recruit is worth 100% of his rating value, the second best recruit is worth nearly 100% of his rating value, down to the last recruit who is worth a small fraction of his rating value. This formula ensures that all commits contribute at least some value to the team's score without heavily rewarding teams that have several more commitments than others.
    Click to expand...
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Yeah I posted that off of memory, I swear I read that on their website, but I quickly went to check to make sure and could no longer find it. Was just coming back to edit my post
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You're probably thinking of Rivals. IIRC, they base their ratings of the top 20 commits.
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Very well could be. If so I'm glad they do, as I think that makes the most sense in terms of combating teams that bring in 33 players in a class while still giving a good representation.

 
I like how 247 does it where every recruit is figured in but as you go down the list they become less of a factor to the point that when you get to the end, they don't add much to the calculation.

Getting over 20 recruits is important and it can add valuable depth.

So, let's say we are sitting at 22 recruits. If we add a low 3* player, it doesn't add much. If we add a 5* stud, it will add quite a bit.

 
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Again, I think it is great to get a highly rated class based on their stars, etc. and it is all very interesting but the MOST CRITICAL concern is not so much the rating of the class as a whole but the degree to which you land the key 'dirty dozen' or so that fit into your areas of most need. We could land 22 fabulous 5 and 4 star WRs and Gebbia and it could be a top three class by star/points rating but be a disaster in terms of building a winning team.

If our area of most critical need is linemen (my opinion, for example) then we absolutely need to recruit the best darned linemen in the country. We could live with a bunch of 2 and low 3 star WRs, RBs, CBs etc. IF we got about five 5 star offensive linement and four 5 star D linemen.

It is very complicated. Osborne and Company used to be very happy as long as they 'filled' their areas of most critical need. In the late 90s, we got all we needed and almost all we wanted. We won't know on this class until we see who the final signees are but we need to find some very key guys to finish out well.

 
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