A look ahead at Nebraska's 2014 schedule

[Redux]

I would rather develop a coach into what we want out of a coach rather than bring in a "big name" and have him change us into what he wants. That didnt end well last time. Bo can be that guy but yeah, takes alot of time and investment. Recruiting is clearly on the rise. We have playmakers and talent on both sides of the ball. Were seeing Bo in a more positive way, dont really care if its a PR push.

If Bo finishes 8-4 this year, fine, fire him. I jus dont see that happening. Weve got a solid team, a respectable but manageable schedule and some real momentum right now. Im prepared for a legitimate turnaround this year.

 

[carlfense]

Also, after that display against Iowa, Bo keeping the job suggests to me that we probably cant get anyone better. Seriously. Rag on me all you want, but it's common sense to me. After the audio came out, SDSU ran up and down the field on us for a half, and then the meltdown after the Minnesota loss, you think the admin wasnt at the very least putting out some feelers? Preparing for the possible "wheels coming off" scenario? They were. You can bet your a$$ some possibilities were checked into. but there's a reason Bo is still the coach after he dared the all fearless Perlman and AD to "fire me if they wanna fire me".

Absolutely not! Bo is doing a fantastic job.

Who exactly has said this?

Approximately the same number of people who have said that Bo's tenure has been an unmitigated disaster.

But you probably picked up on that.

So the strawman routine?

Maybe you didn't pick up on it. Hmmm. Now I'm wondering.

 

[NUpolo8]

Make a change at the head coaching level.

to who?

This never ceases to crack me up. Fire Bo, get him outta here, but never who are you going to replace him with. Is it easy to say you want to fire somebody, but it's a hell of a lot harder to figure out a realistic replacement...

Kirby Smart. Not the only option, and likely not the best option, but I'd make that trade today. That's the first one that came to mind.

Would he be better? I don't know. No one does. What I do know is that I'm ready for a change.

Trade one DC (with no head coaching experience) from a highly ranked SEC team for another?

I'm confused, is this an admission that Bo Pelini was a bad hire?

 

[Count 'Bility]

Also, after that display against Iowa, Bo keeping the job suggests to me that we probably cant get anyone better. Seriously. Rag on me all you want, but it's common sense to me. After the audio came out, SDSU ran up and down the field on us for a half, and then the meltdown after the Minnesota loss, you think the admin wasnt at the very least putting out some feelers? Preparing for the possible "wheels coming off" scenario? They were. You can bet your a$$ some possibilities were checked into. but there's a reason Bo is still the coach after he dared the all fearless Perlman and AD to "fire me if they wanna fire me".

Absolutely not! Bo is doing a fantastic job.

Jesus.

I know youre smarter than me, but I had no idea the gap was that large. Cuz I have no frickin clue what youre talking about. My comment above was literal. Not sarcastic.

 

[carlfense]

My comment above was literal. Not sarcastic.

Yeah. And I suspect that it's mostly accurate. Definitely just a guess, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't find the right hire and decided to wait.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Now that Bo's tenure is being written off as a failure, it's mostly his inexperience as a head coach to blame.

Huh? I don't care that he was a coordinator before he got this job. My opinion is based on his results during his tenure.

Did I ever quote any of your comments exlusively? I didnt because I was making a general statement. I know you brought up the Smart possibility, but I was just referring to a pretty general feeling by some that Bo's tenure here is already a failure. And that some want Kirby Smart (you as well) and some want Scott Frost. I laugh at that notion becuase some of these same poeple (not necassarily you, cuz I dont know) blame Bo's failure on lack of HC experience. But then want to hire mainly one of two guys in the same boat. I find it contradicting. And comical.

 

[sd'sker]

franklin would have been exciting. he seems to be a good recruiter. also, if he went to psu, i would like to think he would have came here.

 

[Count 'Bility]

My comment above was literal. Not sarcastic.

Yeah. And I suspect that it's mostly accurate. Definitely just a guess, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they didn't find the right hire and decided to wait.

And that could be. But at that time, I'm strongly assuming that there was no other option but to keep Bo. I know it feels like purgatory and the clock's ticking. But in my opinion we really are in that position of waiting until Bo gets us over the hump, or the wheels fall off. You fire a guy with 9-10 wins in each season, regardless of the circumstances and number of championships, and that's just hard to support in the eye of national perception and what they think about how we see ourselves.

If that rabble rabble makes any sense.....

 

[zoogs]

I would rather develop a coach into what we want out of a coach rather than bring in a "big name" and have him change us into what he wants. That didnt end well last time.

Who's doing the developing? You really don't think any coach, Bo included, is running the program the way he wants to? Any time you hand the keys to a head coach, he molds the program in his own image. That's the way it works.

I don't think there's too much variance in opinion (obviously there are some outliers). I think the big difference, is how you view Nebraska's place in the CFB pecking order. How easy do you think you can get a replacement, and how much of a chance do you think he'll be better?

I think you nailed it.

 

[ADS]

franklin would have been exciting. he seems to be a good recruiter. also, if he went to psu, i would like to think he would have came here.

Franklin is from Pennsylvania, it was a home coming for him.

 

[carlfense]

Did I ever quote any of your comments exlusively? I didnt because I was making a general statement. I know you brought up the Smart possibility, but I was just referring to a pretty general feeling by some that Bo's tenure here is already a failure. And that some want Kirby Smart (you as well) and some want Scott Frost. I laugh at that notion becuase some of these same poeple (not necassarily you, cuz I dont know) blame Bo's failure on lack of HC experience. But then want to hire mainly one of two guys in the same boat. I find it contradicting. And comical.

That requires some contortion, no?

Yeah, I brought it up and you responded to the idea, but you weren't talking about my post. I find that contradicting. And comical.

 

[sd'sker]

franklin would have been exciting. he seems to be a good recruiter. also, if he went to psu, i would like to think he would have came here.

Franklin is from Pennsylvania, it was a home coming for him.

i've never met someone from pennsylvania who wanted to go back to pennsylvania.

 

[Count 'Bility]

Did I ever quote any of your comments exlusively? I didnt because I was making a general statement. I know you brought up the Smart possibility, but I was just referring to a pretty general feeling by some that Bo's tenure here is already a failure. And that some want Kirby Smart (you as well) and some want Scott Frost. I laugh at that notion becuase some of these same poeple (not necassarily you, cuz I dont know) blame Bo's failure on lack of HC experience. But then want to hire mainly one of two guys in the same boat. I find it contradicting. And comical.

That requires some contortion, no?

Yeah, I brought it up and you responded to the idea, but you weren't talking about my post. I find that contradicting. And comical.

I wasnt really responding to the Smart thing only or just you alone. Like I said, just the general idea of replacing our inexperienced HC with another guy with no HC experience.

 

[Redux]

I would rather develop a coach into what we want out of a coach rather than bring in a "big name" and have him change us into what he wants. That didnt end well last time.

Who's doing the developing? You really don't think any coach, Bo included, is running the program the way he wants to? Any time you hand the keys to a head coach, he molds the program in his own image. That's the way it works.

It's on Bo to develop himself and its on the fanbase to support him and its on the administrators to help mold him and its on his players to depend on him/shape him into a great head coach. Essentially what I'm talking about is experience here. But if you think about it the recent Publicity has showcased Bo in a better manner. This is development. I just want a guy we can be proud of, that can be Bo whether people like to admit it or not. Its been rough recently but what relationships aren't? I really don't want another guy who wants Nebraska to be something it isn't.

 

[zoogs]

I guess I just don't see the difference in a big name (as the game's best defensive coordinator, Bo was a pretty big name at the time, don't forget) or not a big name, first time head coach or not -- every HC comes in and makes Nebraska into his program, and not the other way around.