A look at Mike Riley's offense

[junior4949]

I really don't get the people who aren't even giving Riley a chance. Jump on the big red train and let's see what happens

I think its because those of us who tried to support Bo for so long poured so much effort into it that starting over with someone who isn't a guaranteed championship delivering coach could be just as disappointing as last time.
But not giving the guy a chance is just silly. He has yet to coach a game. His experience is obvious while the trophy case is just as bare as Bo's. Talent development and adjustments are the two biggest upgrades we should see. I'm thirsty and ready to watch it all play out.

I wouldn't say just as bare as Bo's. I mean he did win two Gray Cups. The biggest difference between Mike Riley and Bo is talent evaluation. Had Riley been given more time with the Chargers, it would have been interesting to see how things shook out. He did draft some pretty good players in his short time there.

 

[zoogs]

Not even Jim Harbaugh is a guaranteed championship delivering coach. There are very few of them, and they're staying put.

 

[Red Five]

Nebraska coach Mike Riley said he likes how much of the offensive scheme the unit has practiced so far this spring. Only problem? It might be too much.


Riley indicated Wednesday -- after the team's seventh practice -- that he and the coaches will reevaluate what parts of the playbook they want emphasize during the second half of spring.

They'll focus on less, for sure. He may even think about holding back some concepts this fall as well.

"We put in quite a bit of stuff and eventually here we actually have to pull back a little bit and focus in some stuff to finish with (this spring), so we head into fall camp being pretty good at a few things and not average at a whole bunch of stuff," Riley said. "That's what my biggest concern is right now."

He talked to his staff about it before Wednesday's practice, what seemed to be a tough session for the NU offense -- particularly in the passing game with the Huskers' talented defensive line creating havoc up front.

OWH

I love that quote.

 

[BigRedBuster]

There isn't any group on the team that doesn't have a lot of room for improvement. With the O line, they were far from pathetically terrible like some fans want to make them out to be. You don't have the rushing production we had without a decent O line. What was bad with them is that a couple times a year they would have a bad game where it looked like they had never played the game before.

However, that was true with most of the team.

 

[Hunter94]

i would hope we could get a true decent passing qb eventually, its not whether we run from a pro set or out of the gun or the spread........but most top teams have a kid who can first and foremost throw the ball for 60% or better and are good game managers........running qbs who are undependable passers and are not respected by the D's is what we have most recently put on the field.....say what you want, but that has to change......

 

[Detasselingthehuskers]

I completely agree. The QB should be your game manager and be a weapon, not a player you are scared to watch handle the ball longer than it takes to hand off the ball.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

I don't think Beck used it in a half assed way. I think it was Beck's style, but not Bo's. Bo has a funny history of brilliant intervention in how the Husker offense operated over the years.

my point here is Beck never conditioned or coached our kids to play like this......look at Oregon's line men, most of them are lean and they can move......if you are gonna run true up tempo, your linemen better be able to recover and be ready to execute, otherwise it is wasted play calling. speed training at all positions would help the whole team....Oregon is proof that 30 lbs. of blubber on your line men just to get to 300 lbs. is dead weight....speed, first step and leverage/technique is effective.......Oregon OL is built/coached/trained that way......they run 8-10 plays hurry up, we get to the line quickly and then d!(k around for 30 seconds, looking to the sideline for a play call........and we call that up tempo? that's bullsh#t and never was true up tempo, i was sick of watching that sh#t.....glad to see Riley sh#t can that pretend hurry up bullsh#t.

The Nebraska offense averaged 63 plays a game during the regular season.

In the Holiday Bowl, the first and only game Tim Beck coached without Bo Pelini, we ran a legitimate hurry-up offense without the previous looking-to-the-sidelines rhtyhm-killing non-huddle.

That Tim Beck hurry up offense ran 94 plays for 525 yards, 42 points, a single turnover and minimal penalties. They even came out with a perfectly executed 2 point conversion before USC knew what hit them.

That means that in just four weeks, the same Nebraska team was not only conditioned to run a hurry-up multiple offense, they we able to execute it nearly error-free against some of the best athletes in the Pac 12.

The lesson? Trust your players.

Beck did. Bo didn't.

 

[Thanks_Tom RR]

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[It'sNotAFakeID]

I don't think Beck used it in a half assed way. I think it was Beck's style, but not Bo's. Bo has a funny history of brilliant intervention in how the Husker offense operated over the years.

my point here is Beck never conditioned or coached our kids to play like this......look at Oregon's line men, most of them are lean and they can move......if you are gonna run true up tempo, your linemen better be able to recover and be ready to execute, otherwise it is wasted play calling. speed training at all positions would help the whole team....Oregon is proof that 30 lbs. of blubber on your line men just to get to 300 lbs. is dead weight....speed, first step and leverage/technique is effective.......Oregon OL is built/coached/trained that way......they run 8-10 plays hurry up, we get to the line quickly and then d!(k around for 30 seconds, looking to the sideline for a play call........and we call that up tempo? that's bullsh#t and never was true up tempo, i was sick of watching that sh#t.....glad to see Riley sh#t can that pretend hurry up bullsh#t.

The Nebraska offense averaged 63 plays a game during the regular season.

In the Holiday Bowl, the first and only game Tim Beck coached without Bo Pelini, we ran a legitimate hurry-up offense without the previous looking-to-the-sidelines rhtyhm-killing non-huddle.

That Tim Beck hurry up offense ran 94 plays for 525 yards, 42 points, a single turnover and minimal penalties. They even came out with a perfectly executed 2 point conversion before USC knew what hit them.

That means that in just four weeks, the same Nebraska team was not only conditioned to run a hurry-up multiple offense, they we able to execute it nearly error-free against some of the best athletes in the Pac 12.

The lesson? Trust your players.

Beck did. Bo didn't.

I'd caution against using a single data point to make comparisons. But 94 plays is a lot with only one of them being a turnover.

 

[Landlord]

Tim Beck would not be the first assistant to be hamstringed under Bo.

 

[Guy Chamberlin]

I don't think Beck used it in a half assed way. I think it was Beck's style, but not Bo's. Bo has a funny history of brilliant intervention in how the Husker offense operated over the years.

my point here is Beck never conditioned or coached our kids to play like this......look at Oregon's line men, most of them are lean and they can move......if you are gonna run true up tempo, your linemen better be able to recover and be ready to execute, otherwise it is wasted play calling. speed training at all positions would help the whole team....Oregon is proof that 30 lbs. of blubber on your line men just to get to 300 lbs. is dead weight....speed, first step and leverage/technique is effective.......Oregon OL is built/coached/trained that way......they run 8-10 plays hurry up, we get to the line quickly and then d!(k around for 30 seconds, looking to the sideline for a play call........and we call that up tempo? that's bullsh#t and never was true up tempo, i was sick of watching that sh#t.....glad to see Riley sh#t can that pretend hurry up bullsh#t.

The Nebraska offense averaged 63 plays a game during the regular season.

In the Holiday Bowl, the first and only game Tim Beck coached without Bo Pelini, we ran a legitimate hurry-up offense without the previous looking-to-the-sidelines rhtyhm-killing non-huddle.

That Tim Beck hurry up offense ran 94 plays for 525 yards, 42 points, a single turnover and minimal penalties. They even came out with a perfectly executed 2 point conversion before USC knew what hit them.

That means that in just four weeks, the same Nebraska team was not only conditioned to run a hurry-up multiple offense, they we able to execute it nearly error-free against some of the best athletes in the Pac 12.

The lesson? Trust your players.

Beck did. Bo didn't.

I'd caution against using a single data point to make comparisons. But 94 plays is a lot with only one of them being a turnover.

Yeah. It was the 30 more offensive plays a game that really got my attention.

 

[BigRedBuster]

i would hope we could get a true decent passing qb eventually, its not whether we run from a pro set or out of the gun or the spread........but most top teams have a kid who can first and foremost throw the ball for 60% or better and are good game managers........running qbs who are undependable passers and are not respected by the D's is what we have most recently put on the field.....say what you want, but that has to change......

I completely agree that our QB needs to be able to complete a higher percentage of passes and ones in key parts of games while also taking care of the ball. He and the center are the only players who touch the ball every play. You can't be successful when turning the ball over constantly. My thing in this thread is that some seem to think that that has to be tied to not having a QB who is also asked to run some option and designed QB runs. That just isn't true. In fact, three of the playoff teams have lived off of some form of option/designed QB runs and they have QBs who completed over 60% of their passes while not turning it over.

 

[cg_8]

It seems highly unusual to hear everyone jumping on this "we don't need no quarterback to run... They's useless anyways..." mentality.

Everyone does realize that since 2010, 4 of the 5 Heisman winners was a "dual threat" QB... Jameis is even borderline dual threat if not "mobile".

I'm not saying "dual threat" is the way to go. But the opposite is not the only answer. Especially considering that 3 of the 4 teams that participated in the past two National Championship games had option based attacks.

 

[Mavric]

I don't think Beck used it in a half assed way. I think it was Beck's style, but not Bo's. Bo has a funny history of brilliant intervention in how the Husker offense operated over the years.

my point here is Beck never conditioned or coached our kids to play like this......look at Oregon's line men, most of them are lean and they can move......if you are gonna run true up tempo, your linemen better be able to recover and be ready to execute, otherwise it is wasted play calling. speed training at all positions would help the whole team....Oregon is proof that 30 lbs. of blubber on your line men just to get to 300 lbs. is dead weight....speed, first step and leverage/technique is effective.......Oregon OL is built/coached/trained that way......they run 8-10 plays hurry up, we get to the line quickly and then d!(k around for 30 seconds, looking to the sideline for a play call........and we call that up tempo? that's bullsh#t and never was true up tempo, i was sick of watching that sh#t.....glad to see Riley sh#t can that pretend hurry up bullsh#t.

The Nebraska offense averaged 63 plays a game during the regular season.

In the Holiday Bowl, the first and only game Tim Beck coached without Bo Pelini, we ran a legitimate hurry-up offense without the previous looking-to-the-sidelines rhtyhm-killing non-huddle.

That Tim Beck hurry up offense ran 94 plays for 525 yards, 42 points, a single turnover and minimal penalties. They even came out with a perfectly executed 2 point conversion before USC knew what hit them.

That means that in just four weeks, the same Nebraska team was not only conditioned to run a hurry-up multiple offense, they we able to execute it nearly error-free against some of the best athletes in the Pac 12.

The lesson? Trust your players.

Beck did. Bo didn't.

I'd caution against using a single data point to make comparisons. But 94 plays is a lot with only one of them being a turnover.

Yeah. It was the 30 more offensive plays a game that really got my attention.

This is true. And I think it was pretty obvious from Beck's comments after the game that he wasn't allowed to do everything he wanted.

But that was just a pretty crazy game overall. And it was aided by USC having possessions that lasted 57 seconds, 11 seconds (KOR TD), 28 seconds, 85 seconds, 68 seconds, 77 seconds, 79 seconds, 12 seconds, 95 seconds, 42 seconds, 25 seconds, 69 seconds and 93 seconds and a combined 90 passes. You don't see that in a lot of B1G games.

Plus, that higher tempo is what led to a lot of complaining about how little rest the defense was getting and all the rejoicing now about how we are actually huddling. It's not a magic bullet.

 

[strigori]

We keep coming back to this, and the abject terror some people have around here involving the passing game. Once upon a time ago we did throw the ball under TO. In fact one of our Heisman Trophy winners was a receiver. And we have some guys that appear to be very dangerous weapons at that position here. And Swift and Peterson were very good for us as well. One more thought, if you want to win in football today, you need to be able to throw the ball. Good defenses tend to shut down one dimensional offenses.

If you look farther back than the last couple years, Riley did plenty of run first when that was what the talent dictated. Quizz Rogers and Steven Jackson were both in run heavy offenses. Yeah, they threw a ton the last few years. But with a 1st round WR and a QB who might be the 3rd or 4th QB off the board in this year's draft, he would have been stupid to not throw a lot.