ActualCornHusker
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I skimmed them. The optics are not good. But it takes more than optics to prove actual wrongdoing...
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I skimmed them. The optics are not good. But it takes more than optics to prove actual wrongdoing...
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ActualCornHusker
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Danny Bateman
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Interesting watching a pro-Trump conservative bicker with anti-Trump conservatives (and non-cons alike).
Obama received just as much if not more unfair media scrutiny than has Trump. Trump brings most of the scrutiny on himself by being a loudmouthed liar. The primary difference is that Obama and his supporters accepted it, probably laughed about it & moved on. Trump & his supporters exist in perpetual victimhood and use it as another reason to circle the wagons rather than asking if some of the criticism is deserved.
Trump is laughably corrupt. It's not a question. Also President Hillary going to war with the Norks is the most absurd suggestion I've read around these parts in some time.
There's just... no effin' incentive for any president to do that. Nothing would be gained and millions of civilians would perish.
Obama received just as much if not more unfair media scrutiny than has Trump. Trump brings most of the scrutiny on himself by being a loudmouthed liar. The primary difference is that Obama and his supporters accepted it, probably laughed about it & moved on. Trump & his supporters exist in perpetual victimhood and use it as another reason to circle the wagons rather than asking if some of the criticism is deserved.
Trump is laughably corrupt. It's not a question. Also President Hillary going to war with the Norks is the most absurd suggestion I've read around these parts in some time.
There's just... no effin' incentive for any president to do that. Nothing would be gained and millions of civilians would perish.
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ActualCornHusker
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Danny Bateman
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I mean, you said you find him ridiculous, but you've spent the last several pages of this thread defending him and excusing bad behavior because of this or that. You've said you think a Clinton White House would be 10x worse than Trump's, saying the media gives him a raw deal, pointing out how bad Democrats are and apparently arguing Jared and Ivanka somehow are deserving of the positions lavished upon them by sheer nepotism.
What's the phrase?
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ActualCornHusker
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I mean, you said you find him ridiculous, but you've spent the last several pages of this thread defending him and excusing bad behavior because of this or that. You've said you think a Clinton White House would be 10x worse than Trump's, saying the media would gives him a raw deal, pointing out how bad Democrats are and apparently arguing Jared and Ivanka somehow are deserving of the positions lavished upon them by sheer nepotism.
What's the phrase?
- didn't excuse behavior, just pointing out observations and facts that I see as apparent
- Clinton would undoubtedly have been horrendous. I stand by that
-I didn't say Jared & Ivanka deserve those positions
Also not a conservative. I said fiscally conservative. Socially I'd be very liberal - not modern liberal leftist, but the classic meaning of the word liberal.
I'm searching for someone - anyone - to vote for to get Trump out. The problem is we've got a 2 party system that perpetuates horrible options. The only Dems I'd even consider voting for would be Tulsi or (this one would be a major stretch) Yang
Mierin
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It's hilarious that someone found this funny. If one person does 1,000 s#!tty things and people call them out for 900 of them, and someone else does 100 s#!tty things and people call them out for 90 of them, the 2 people were under the same amount of scrutiny.
And that's not even getting into how s#!tty the things are.
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Danny Bateman
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OK. Not a ton of classical liberals running around. That sounds almost libertarian to me. In which case I see why Yang appeals to you.
Go ahead and vote for whomever you like the best. I'm assuming you're actually in a statistically pretty small group and thus a vote for a fringe candidate won't matter all that much.
You'll get no argument from me - our electoral system blows. I've just always leaned pragmatic with my choices.
ActualCornHusker
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Danny Bateman
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My pragmatism leads me to vote for whichever Dem wins the nomination.
Earlier today I did a write up about the risks of nominating someone too far left. Just like there's risk in nominating someone seen as too establishment or moderate.
None are without flaws. But they're going to be the only one with a prayer of beating Trump.
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ActualCornHusker
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Tbh i haven't followed it much. Sounds like it's a long shot in the Senate, and it's probably not the right hill to die on for the Dems but :dunno
BigRedBuster
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shouldn’t this be decided by what’s the right thing to do?
And, you admit you haven’t payed attention to what is proving how corrupt Trump is, but yet act like Trump is no worse than anyone else.
interesting.
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