Abdullah 2013 Rushing Estimate
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HuskerNationNick
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Sigh, again, you ask for proof of my statements, but you don't show anything from your end.
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Again, I have proof to back up my statements.
Me loving to argue? I am just pointing out that you obviously don't have your facts right, when you sit here and tell me I don't know the the f#*k I am talking about? Your not belittling? What the f#*k do you call this?
"-Now here's where your credibility in your argument falls off...."
"I see the point you are trying to make but your statement is false."
"I mean damn man, do you just love to argue or just need attention."
You sit here and tell me I am wrong, my creditibility falls, I love to argue, but your the one saying this BS, and yet you show no proof of your statements.
OH... and the reason Rex never broke 1500 was because he has NO TOP END SPEED! Would you like to debate that too, or you have proof you can't show to call me a liar and tell me I don't know what I am talking about?
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AllNRed
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You stated that he runs a 4.3 yet you show a link that says he runs a 4.4 low 4.49 high....?????......ok. And you used Scout..........247sports & Rivals both have him running a 4.51. What do you mean there's no proof. Just like you googled everything else I just figured you would google them also, but obviously it went against your 4.3 claim so it's my responsibility to post the link. I'm guess the people at scout ran a separate workout for him than others since they have him faster. But that still doesn't help your original statement.
The three quotes of my you used is belittling....nevermind that they were for my most recent response to you, which was after you said I was belittling you. Maybe I'll read up at my posts to see exact what you are talking about........as far as I know, belittling is to put down or make another person feel like they aren't important. I don't think I ever made the attempt of doing that to you, yet you are taking it that way thus that is not my fault for you being so emotional. Especially when you feel like statements like "I see the point you are trying to make but your statement is false" is belittling......I don't know what to tell you. Oh, well.
And yes, I say you love to argue as we have both came to the same conclusion/assessment/whatever of how Ameer's production will most likely end. You think it's for one reason, I think it's due to another, but it's still the same conclusion, yet you are still rambling at me about stuff that has nothing to do with Ameer's production this year. I think you are getting too emotional. Especially when you feel the need to type out curse words (with inserted symbols) to specifically show passion in what you are saying as if I said this. ......example I said: "here's where you credibility falls off"...meaning a flaw in your statement. You took it as: "you don't know what the f#%k you're talking about".......... :lol: I never made that assessment, because I don't believe that. I feel you are pretty knowledgeable, I just don't agree with certain things you said.
The reason Rex didn't get 1500 is because he has no top end speed?......okay. I never claimed Rex had wheels. I said Ameer wasn't much faster than Rex, which is what sparked you to claim Ameer ran a 4.3 out of high school.......And since we are on subject.....if top end speed is the reason Rex didn't run for 1500 yards, what was the reason Roy didn't get there? He's just as fast as our QB. (RH jr. 4.42, TM 4.47)
P.S. Just because I don't agree with a statement of yours doesn't mean I'm belittling you. You should always feel special regardless of a disagreement on a football message board.
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AllNRed
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That's a damn good offense. Especially when you add in the production of the strongest group on the team, the WRs.
HuskerNationNick
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#1- Do you read what you want to read, and not comprehend what is actually being said? I said that he ran a 3.8 OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL and now runs a 4.4X due to the weight he has gained. USAToday, Seattle Times and a couple other websites also concur the 4.38. 247/Rivals says a 4.51, 2011-... which was not out of high school and this isn't stated ANYWHERE else besides there. Maybe they ran their own workout for him, since they have him slower. But that still doesn't help your statement.
#2- I stated that he runs a 4.4X NOW, that is why I posted TWO links, to prove BOTH of my statements.
#3- 188 carries, THAT is why he didn't get 1500. Had he have gotten the ball at least 240 times like Burkhead his Junior year, he would have shattered 1500. He averaged 6.8 yards/carry. Rozier averaged 7 when he hit his all time high, 1689 his Junior year, off of 242 attempts.
We had 3500 yards rushing last year.
Oh yeah, also about your "Abdullah didn't get offered by Alabama because of his speed". I am not sure if that is 100%, but according to scout, they did offer him.
http://recruiting.scout.com/a.z?s=73&p=8&c=1&nid=4977342---Bottom of page for offer list.
http://georgia.scout.com/2/1252440.html
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AllNRed
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Wow.....what is wrong with you?
#1......in post #40 did you or did you not state he ran a 4.3 out of high school?....You did and that is FALSE. (I don't know what you mean by a 3.8, I hope you aren't referring to his 40 yd dash). And Seattle Times.....that's the article you are going by......check to see who the journalist who wrote the article then go back and read post #43....I already address that. Eric Olson. I wish I can find the tweets that called him on the mistake he stated in that article, but it really isn't worth searching for as you do pay attention anyway because they go against what you are claiming. You sound like you depend on Scout to give you the most accurate info about a prospect. Which is fine. I try to follow them, 247, & rivals as well as well as a couple other sources. I'm at work and for some reason the Scout sites are blocked so I would have to wait til I get to my office at home to see just where it states that AA was offered by Bama. As a matter of fact, I'll see if I can find his interview where he talked about his recruitment by the two home schools. He stated that neither looked at him as a RB prospect because of his size/speed. They wanted him on the defensive side of the ball. Auburn actually gave him an offer. He was reluctant to accept because he wanted to see what programs would give him a chance at the RB position. That's when the staff made his move and got the commitment by offering him the best chance to succeed. Bama wasn't in the running for his commitment because he didn't want to play on the other side of the ball (which explains why B.Heard was first approached about playing DB after seeing how none of the triplets got many reps as freshmen)
Edit: Here's an article that touches briefly on the Bama/Auburn recruiting: Towards the middle of the article this passage you'll find this.......
Alabama viewed Abdullah as a cornerback prospect. There was at least clarity in that. Auburn, with an offense then under Gus Malzahn's direction, discussed running back with him at first. But within weeks of an offer, Auburn assistant Trooper Taylor passed through Homewood. He asked Abdullah what he thought about playing defensive back. Abdullah's heart sank. "I was like, man, why can't they see past the size, give me a chance?" Abdullah said.
Pelini was the lone head coach to sit on the Abdullahs' couch. He told Abdullah that he guaranteed nothing, except that he'd put Abdullah in the best possible position to be the best player he could be. That sealed it: Abdullah would be a Cornhusker.
But I don't see anywhere that states Bama extended an offer to AA. As a matter of fact I remember on the radio (1620 the zone) fans asking why was it that Ameer wasn't offered at RB.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/brian_hamilton/11/16/ameer-abdullah-nebraska/index.html#ixzz2UFZeT5hK
#2......4.4 and a 4.49 is a bit of a different view when looking at RBs, but I get it..... :lol:
#3......And the credibility falls off again. (oops sorry to belittle you). Rex got 98 carries this season. Had he had 188 carries at 6.8 ypc that's somewhere around 1300 yards on the season. Just sayin'. Now let's look at who those carries came against.
-3 for 68 yards vs So Miss
-8 for 119 yards vs Idaho St
-18 for 86 yards vs Wisconsin
-14 for 119 yards vs Ohio St.
-4 for 18 yards vs Northwestern
-16 for 69 yards vs Iowa
-11 for 61 yards vs Wisconsin (CCG)
-24 for 140 yards vs Georgia (Bowl)
Now based on your ability to point out the strongest rush defenses we faced this season......It shows he didn't play at all against two of the teams (MSU/PSU). He left after 4 carries vs one of them (NwU). And ran 29 times for 155 yards (5.3 ypc). Please stop suggesting that he would have stayed somewhere around 6.8. Especially sense he only averaged 4.3 vs Iowa where 2/3s of our plays were given to the backs.
Anything else you care to bring up......I'm still trying to figure out why it is we are still debating..... :lol: but I'll play along for the time being....
AllNRed
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Help me out here......did you want me to rebuttal this or.........what? Not sure what the point of pointing this out was......just in case......here........"no we only ran for 3300"
AllNRed
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That's pretty fast for a man who's blind as a bat, terrible at multitasking, and has ADHD....... :lol:
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HuskerNationNick
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I said that Alabama offered Abdullah, according to Scout. That is all. Whether it was for RB or CB, he was offered, again according to Scout.
I said he ran a 4.38 out of high school, and you asked for proof, I gave it to you. My info is wrong, but yours is right? I don't get how you think that. You know ESPN has him running a 4.6 right? Maybe they are right!
You stated that he currently runs a 4.5X, and I said he ran a 4.4X. You asked for proof, I gave you the NFL Scout website showing his most recent recorded 40. YOU can't show anything, but again, I am wrong according to you.
You really don't need to be so rude when you reply. Its a conversation, and there is no need for your attitude. I disagree with your evaluations, I prove why I disagree, and you sit here and tell me I am full of sh#t. I don't even care to talk about what Abdullah ran. Its a waste of my energy. This will be my last post about that.
Now...
To your #3, I lose credibility because you can't read? Here I will post so you can read it again and realize what was being said. YOU sir asked why Helu didn't break 1500 and I gave you my reasoning...
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HuskerThor
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I voted no. There is no way he is big enough to carry the ball that many times. He started last year due to Burkhead being out, but I don't think he was our best backup. Our best backup just left for another team.....again.
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Count 'Bility
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Then why didnt Heard come in when Rex got hurt?
The doghouse theory has been debunked on numerous occasions.
The Dude
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He got 226 carries last year, which I thought was too many. At times he just looked worn down. If anything, we should be trying to rotate more at running back. It would only benefit him, and the team as a whole.
Enhance
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+1.
The notion that Heard was our best back up is a laughable farce, especially since most people on here only have theories and speculation as to why he changed positions so often.
I'm inclined to trust the coaches on matters of who's best and who should be playing. Heard switched positions numerous times and couldn't crack the starting lineup. If he was the best option for us at running back he would have been playing. End of discussion.