Abdullah 2013 Rushing Estimate

[AllNRed]

#1......in post #40 did you or did you not state he ran a 4.3 out of high school?....You did and that is FALSE. (I don't know what you mean by a 3.8, I hope you aren't referring to his 40 yd dash)

#2......4.4 and a 4.49 is a bit of a different view when looking at RBs, but I get it..... :lol:

#3......And the credibility falls off again. (oops sorry to belittle you). Rex got 98 carries this season. Had he had 188 carries at 6.8 ypc that's somewhere around 1300 yards on the season. Just sayin'. Now let's look at who those carries came against.

I said that Alabama offered Abdullah, according to Scout. That is all. Whether it was for RB or CB, he was offered, again according to Scout.

I said he ran a 4.38 out of high school, and you asked for proof, I gave it to you. My info is wrong, but yours is right? I don't get how you think that. You know ESPN has him running a 4.6 right? Maybe they are right!

You stated that he currently runs a 4.5X, and I said he ran a 4.4X. You asked for proof, I gave you the NFL Scout website showing his most recent recorded 40. YOU can't show anything, but again, I am wrong according to you.

You really don't need to be so rude when you reply. Its a conversation, and there is no need for your attitude. I disagree with your evaluations, I prove why I disagree, and you sit here and tell me I am full of sh#t. I don't even care to talk about what Abdullah ran. Its a waste of my energy. This will be my last post about that.

Now...

To your #3, I lose credibility because you can't read? Here I will post so you can read it again and realize what was being said. YOU sir asked why Helu didn't break 1500 and I gave you my reasoning...

And since we are on subject.....if top end speed is the reason Rex didn't run for 1500 yards, what was the reason Roy didn't get there? He's just as fast as our QB. (RH jr. 4.42, TM 4.47)#3

#3- 188 carries, THAT is why he didn't get 1500. Had he have gotten the ball at least 240 times like Burkhead his Junior year, he would have shattered 1500. He averaged 6.8 yards/carry. Rozier averaged 7 when he hit his all time high, 1689 his Junior year, off of 242 attempts.

I don't understand why you are trying so hard.

-According to SCOUT, they say Alabama and Auburn offered Ameer late in the process. Do you know exactly when? Here's a fun fact.......AA was the #10 prospect out of Alabama in the 2011 class. As of Jan 20, 2011 (the date he commited to NU) he hadn't received an offer from neither Bama or Auburn......funny thing is, less than a week after his commit, and offer from Auburn comes in. He was gave the Husker nation a brief scare after announcing that he will be visiting Auburn that weekend. The visit was cancelled an he upheld his commitment to NU. All of this was announce on the 26th of January.

http://auburn.247sports.com/Article/In-state-athlete-to-visit-Auburn-12656

Up to that day there was still no offer from Bama......so when did SCOUT get the inside info on an offer to AA. He signed his L.O.I. along with the rest of the class less than 2 weeks later. And why is it that Rivals/247sports doesn't have him even having an interest in Bama during the time of his commitment. Remember he cancelled a visit to USC day or two before committing to us.

According to this Bama didn't offer Ameer nor had him as a target, or him even interested in becoming a member of the tide:

http://alabama.247sports.com/Season/2011-Football/Offers

-I asked you where does it states he ran anywhere near a 4.3 out of high school. You posted a link that I already mentioned as the link of an article that I had already mention that was called out for having flaws in the facts given, one of them being his 40 time......you don't see any recruiting service or any other article stating he ran a 4.3 coming out of high school but there's a few links that show him running a 4.51 but that means nothing because SCOUT obviously has it correct because it matches your view.

-and yes I stated he runs a 4.5......this link that YOU provide as of May 2013 shows he runs a 4.49....... But you got caught up in the "low" 4.40 and ignored the "high" 4.59.

-and I've said nothing rude to you homie.....stop the emotion stuff. If you really think I'm being rude. Ignore me. Don't respond to me. It's not like I'm going to cyber stalk you and force you to reply to anything I say.... You are choosing to respond. You are determined to keep pushing you view. I mentioned a couple times that I don't understand why we are debating because we both gave the same prediction as far as result for AA's season, yet you continue to ramble and bring in other claims that are totally off base. I, lately just so happen to be so board in my office that I was willing to give you the attention and respond to it, because not much is going on in the recruiting word at the moment for NU.

-and you're credibility fell off because what you were stating was wrong, not because I "can't read" (how rude..... :lol: ) Your reason behind Helu not reaching 1500 yards could be said about any back in our history. Of course if they get more carries, they will most likely get more yards. Braylon Heard last season carried the ball 52 times for 348 yards. That's 6.7 ypc.....if he had gotten (a lot) more carries he could have gotten 1500 yards. But he was our 1st option behind Burkhead. Helu had more carries than any other back 3 out of the 4 seasons he played for NU (tied with Sr. RB Marlon Lucky with 125 carries in 2008). It's safe to say he was a 1st option, meaning he had less of a reason that Heard, not to get more carries. Your logic was an epic fail......if you think me pointing that out is rude....then so be it.

 

[Count 'Bility]

I voted no. There is no way he is big enough to carry the ball that many times. He started last year due to Burkhead being out, but I don't think he was our best backup. Our best backup just left for another team.....again.

Then why didnt Heard come in when Rex got hurt?

The doghouse theory has been debunked on numerous occasions.

+1.

The notion that Heard was our best back up is a laughable farce, especially since most people on here only have theories and speculation as to why he changed positions so often.

I'm inclined to trust the coaches on matters of who's best and who should be playing. Heard switched positions numerous times and couldn't crack the starting lineup. If he was the best option for us at running back he would have been playing. End of discussion.

That's my point.

We're not at practices. We're not at conditioning drills. We're not even in the classroom (well, some of us may be). Maybe Braylon was a clown. Maybe he slacked a bit in workouts. Maybe he couldnt fully grasp all responsibilities of the position. 95% of us on this board really know nothing about Heard except he was put in the game in situational calls to rip of a 7-10 yard run here and there, thus generating a perception that he's the best back we got and Bo and staff screwed him over and ran him out of town.

No thanks. It's beating a dead horse. The thing is Elmer's by now, and I'll take the coaches perspective over anyone's. There was not room for Braylon full-time in the backfield with Taylor and Newby comin in, the coaches realized this, but wanted to find a way for Braylon's athletic ability on field somehow out of a slot/slasher type position but he obviously didnt want to so he left-for Kentucky :rollin - where he can be the man. It is what it is. Our running back position is going to be fine.

 

[The Dude]

It's beating a dead horse.

Is it really? Aside from HuskerThor, I've never heard anyone claim Heard was better than Abdullah. Ever.

 

[Count 'Bility]

It's beating a dead horse.

Is it really? Aside from HuskerThor, I've never heard anyone claim Heard was better than Abdullah. Ever.

Well, I was speaking more about the entire Braylon Heard situation as a whole with that particular part. Otherwise, yes, youre probably right.

 

[EZ-E]

AA will be splitting carries by mid season with Adam Taylor.

 

[HuskerNationNick]

I am so done talking to you AllNRed. You are a piece of work, and MUCH worse than Hedley. At least that dude could admit when he was wrong. The link I provided, showed ALL 3 of his times ran that day, so wouldn't you f'ing take his FASTEST f'ing TIME, since after all HE DID RUN IT, its a recorded time there?!

Its people like you that pull knowledgable people away from forums. Its honestly ok to be wrong every once in a while, seriously. To even think that Abdullah is slower than Burkhead is laughable on its own, but you have it stuck in your head that its true. Even if AA was to beat him in a footrace, you would still argue that he was slower, because it was a "different drill"

I could care less if you think I lose credibility, but you should learn how to be respectful to others when replying. I have yet to sit here and belittle you, except calling you a piece of work, because you simply are. I am done with you, and your senseless posts. Your Gods gift to Husker football and know everything about it. Everyone is wrong, I understand it.

 

[swmohusker]

AA will be splitting carries by mid season with Adam Taylor.

Splitting I doubt. I could see him sharing with newby, cross, and Taylor. Much like heard, green, and Abdullah we're used their fresh years.

 

[LumberJackSker]

i just hope abdullah improves his ball security, if he cuts down on his fumbles and puts up a similar amount of yards as last year i'd be happy, if he goes on to run for 1500 yards even better

 

[The King]

I am so done talking to you AllNRed. You are a piece of work, and MUCH worse than Hedley. At least that dude could admit when he was wrong. The link I provided, showed ALL 3 of his times ran that day, so wouldn't you f'ing take his FASTEST f'ing TIME, since after all HE DID RUN IT, its a recorded time there?!

Its people like you that pull knowledgable people away from forums. Its honestly ok to be wrong every once in a while, seriously. To even think that Abdullah is slower than Burkhead is laughable on its own, but you have it stuck in your head that its true. Even if AA was to beat him in a footrace, you would still argue that he was slower, because it was a "different drill"

I could care less if you think I lose credibility, but you should learn how to be respectful to others when replying. I have yet to sit here and belittle you, except calling you a piece of work, because you simply are. I am done with you, and your senseless posts. Your Gods gift to Husker football and know everything about it. Everyone is wrong, I understand it.

I'll make it easier for you both...

Neither of them are "fast"

 

[Enhance]

After watching some of Abdullah's highlights from this last season, I'm really impressed with his footwork. I never really noticed this until I saw a compilation of his runs from this season. It's difficult to see where he's going to take his body. One of the big differences between AA and Burkhead was this ability to make cuts. Burkhead could do it, but his body motions gave away the direction he was going to go. AA is able to make those quick cuts more effectively.

If he had a higher top end speed he would be fantastic.

 

[EZ-E]

AA will be splitting carries by mid season with Adam Taylor.

Splitting I doubt. I could see him sharing with newby, cross, and Taylor. Much like heard, green, and Abdullah we're used their fresh years.

Trust me. Adam Taylor is a better back than the ones you listed when they were his age. He's the best back we've signed since Ahman Green.

 

[swmohusker]

AA will be splitting carries by mid season with Adam Taylor.

Splitting I doubt. I could see him sharing with newby, cross, and Taylor. Much like heard, green, and Abdullah we're used their fresh years.

Trust me. Adam Taylor is a better back than the ones you listed when they were his age. He's the best back we've signed since Ahman Green.

I think he looks like a stud. But if you say he will split carries from our all B1G RB, I find that hard to believe. Splitting meaning he will get the same amount of carries as Abdullah. I hope he does come in and tear it up, but the way we run our offense with tempo and how we like to stay with the hot hand, I dont see Abdullah coming off the field a lot. Ameer is a stud and has outworked a 5 star back and Heard was a top 100 kid. Again, I think you are right that Taylor is a great RB and he has a great combination of size and speed. But i would bet that if you take the carries total from the mid-season to end Ameer will have a more carries (barring injury)

 

[EZ-E]

AA will be splitting carries by mid season with Adam Taylor.

Splitting I doubt. I could see him sharing with newby, cross, and Taylor. Much like heard, green, and Abdullah we're used their fresh years.

Trust me. Adam Taylor is a better back than the ones you listed when they were his age. He's the best back we've signed since Ahman Green.

I think he looks like a stud. But if you say he will split carries from our all B1G RB, I find that hard to believe. Splitting meaning he will get the same amount of carries as Abdullah. I hope he does come in and tear it up, but the way we run our offense with tempo and how we like to stay with the hot hand, I dont see Abdullah coming off the field a lot. Ameer is a stud and has outworked a 5 star back and Heard was a top 100 kid. Again, I think you are right that Taylor is a great RB and he has a great combination of size and speed. But i would bet that if you take the carries total from the mid-season to end Ameer will have a more carries (barring injury)

We run under center more than people seem to remember. That weird toss play is the huge example. Aaron Green was never a five star back. At the end of his senior year he was rated right around where Braylon was. Neither of these kids ran for 2700 yards and 45 TDs or basically singlehandedly won their teams a state title. Adam Taylor is the best back Bo has ever signed and by mid-season he will be a big part of our running game. Not because the cupboard is bare, because he's that good.

 

[Count 'Bility]

AA will be splitting carries by mid season with Adam Taylor.

Splitting I doubt. I could see him sharing with newby, cross, and Taylor. Much like heard, green, and Abdullah we're used their fresh years.

Trust me. Adam Taylor is a better back than the ones you listed when they were his age. He's the best back we've signed since Ahman Green.

I hope he does come in and tear it up, but the way we run our offense with tempo and how we like to stay with the hot hand, I dont see Abdullah coming off the field a lot.

This is a good point. Seriously. But here's the other side. What if Taylor gets a hot hand, like, for the year?

Ahman Green is a good comparison. But an honest question to ask is, if Phillips doesnt get suspended and Benning and Childs at times dont get hassled by minor injuries, does Green get the look he got when he got it?

I look all the way back to the we-backs of '91 and '92 with Derek Brown and Calvin Jones. Calvin was a true freshman competing with a returning back in Derek Brown, and they wound up splitting time literally down the middle almost immediately.

EZ's comment about Taylor being the best back signee since Green is intriguing, because I've been told Coach Osborne's been heard saying the same thing.

Now, if only that defense.....

 

[swmohusker]

AA will be splitting carries by mid season with Adam Taylor.

Splitting I doubt. I could see him sharing with newby, cross, and Taylor. Much like heard, green, and Abdullah we're used their fresh years.

Trust me. Adam Taylor is a better back than the ones you listed when they were his age. He's the best back we've signed since Ahman Green.

I think he looks like a stud. But if you say he will split carries from our all B1G RB, I find that hard to believe. Splitting meaning he will get the same amount of carries as Abdullah. I hope he does come in and tear it up, but the way we run our offense with tempo and how we like to stay with the hot hand, I dont see Abdullah coming off the field a lot. Ameer is a stud and has outworked a 5 star back and Heard was a top 100 kid. Again, I think you are right that Taylor is a great RB and he has a great combination of size and speed. But i would bet that if you take the carries total from the mid-season to end Ameer will have a more carries (barring injury)

We run under center more than people seem to remember. That weird toss play is the huge example. Aaron Green was never a five star back. At the end of his senior year he was rated right around where Braylon was. Neither of these kids ran for 2700 yards and 45 TDs or basically singlehandedly won their teams a state title. Adam Taylor is the best back Bo has ever signed and by mid-season he will be a big part of our running game. Not because the cupboard is bare, because he's that good.

Green was a 5 star back according to scout and I believe ESPN. Just as important in our offense is the stretch zone play were we pull center and guard and need a speed back to stretch the defense and find a seam or get the edge. That play sets up or qb run game too. It makes the defense defend the whole field. The toss is a staple in our offense too, but I believe Newby high school ran that play alot also.

Taylor had great H.S. numbers but he also had 2 extra games bc of exhibition games they played he got 16 games his senior year. Newby had 2300 and and 43 td's in only 14 games. So, stat wise they are pretty even. I think both those backs bring exactly what we are looking for at the rb position. I think that is how we got both of them bc they both have something that will make our offense hum. Cant wait to see these guys battle it out for carries in the Fall. I still give the guy that has done it before the edge over any fresh who has not played at this level yet.