AD Shawn Eichorst issues a statement

[GBRedneck]

Oh let's not kid ourselves about it being a rebuilding project. It absolutely is a rebuilding project.

Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project.

Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition.

You do know what attrition means right???

Do you?

Okay let's talk about attrition then.

Abdullah was easily the offensive MVP over the last 2 years. Carried this team on his back when we needed him too and now that bell cow is gone. That only strengthens the case that it is a rebuilding scenario.

1. It's pretty clear you don't understand the true definition of attrition as it correlates to college football. Here's a hint: It's not like the NFL. There's attrition every single season in college football. Every single college football team experiences it. Players graduate or in small minority of cases some players are able to declare early for the NFL draft. Some just quit or leave the team or stop playing due to medical/personal reasons. Hopefully this makes some sort of sense to you as far as attrition and how it effects every single college football team every single year.

2. Per the bolded if you think losing one player automatically equates into calling the next season a 'rebuilding year' regardless of how good that player might have been then by your definition every single season is a rebuilding year.

Here's another hint. It's not.

I'll continue discussing this point with you when you stop cherry picking. All I'm saying is, Bo Pelini did not leave a fully equipped team behind and that the issues run deeper than the numbers show.

But how many coaches leave behind a 'fully equipped team' in college football????????? Do you not follow the sport???? Again this is not the NFL.

Let me make it clear for you. While Nebraska lost their best rb in a long time and a 1st round draft pick on defense there were still a lot of guys leftover from a team that won 9 games just last year. Now suddenly we are 3-6 and it's not because Bo didn't leave us with a fully equipped team. Do you not think any blame should be laid upon the current new staff of coaches???!!!! There's talent on this roster to warrant a better record than 3-6 and the coaching decisions which have at times resembled ones made on the high school level are right there in front of you for everyone to see.

Holy excuses batman.

So you're saying it's a rebuilding project? The reason we are 3-6 is a combinatiBull crapon of what was left behind and the current staff's decisions. They are not mutually exclusive. Bo would have had to do some rebuilding if he was given another year.

Bull crap. We would be 9-0 right now if Bo was still here. And don't make that out to be wishing or hoping that he was still here. He forced their hand and had to go. But if Pederhorst hadn't been such a prick and Bo hadn't been such a prick and they could have worked things out, we would be in the top 10 right now.

 

[Kernal]

Oh let's not kid ourselves about it being a rebuilding project. It absolutely is a rebuilding project.

Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project.

Nebraska's attrition from last year may have been normal, but it has been high for at least four years. We have lost about 40% of our scholarship players since 2011 and only one of them left early for the NFL.

Because nobody wants to admit that a lot of folks were wrong about Bo and that he was a better coach than we thought. Many, including myself, thought just about anyone could win 9 games playing in this turd of conference division. Apparently that was not the case so the only way for someone explain what this season has morphed into is to create a narrative that the cupboard is completely bare and void of all talent. That 1-6 Purdue is superior and this is all Bo's fault. I'll admit I was wrong about Bo as a coach. Still happy he isn't here, but man did we swing and miss with Riley.

Any decent coach can win 9 games per year at Nebraska with the schedules we've had for the past several years. But changing staffs and dealing with Pelini's dysfunctional culture is going to take longer than one Spring.

Transition years are tough. I think that realistically no one could see this coming. On the other hand, losing talent like Ameer and RG isn't replaceable overnight, because it took 3 years for those guys to become Ameer and RG as Huskers. The cupboard wasn't bare, but mighty thin in spots. QB being one of them. RB has talent, but lacks any kind of in game college experience. Newby played some last year, but not enough to be considered a veteran.

Kenny Bell was a very good downfield blocker, and did catch more passes than he dropped, something that has happened far too much this season.

You can make arguements for both sides in this discussion. Coaches aren't doing a good job, and from a pure effort stand point, the players are not leaving it all out on the field each and every down either, and that has been an issue for the last 3 years. ONce this team has gotten behind in games in the last few seasons, they have either quit or found ways to quit. Thats on the players more than coaches, but like I said, its hard to really go one way or the other.

I will say that I have seen players in the right position to make plays, and seen alot of whiffs on defense, and thats been an issue now for at least 3 years. Offense, dropped passes are not something that has just occurred this season, that has been a plague for the last few years as well. QB's making bad decisions have almost been a part of this program now since TMart.

The culture Pelini allowed (and bequeathed to the new staff) lacked discipline, maturity, self-control and consistency- basically the traits he himself modeled. It was no surprise they didn't always show up to play. This year has had even more excuses for them to not show up. It's disappointing, but maybe we shouldn't be surprised.

 

[GBRedneck]

Oh let's not kid ourselves about it being a rebuilding project. It absolutely is a rebuilding project.

Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project.

Nebraska's attrition from last year may have been normal, but it has been high for at least four years. We have lost about 40% of our scholarship players since 2011 and only one of them left early for the NFL.

Because nobody wants to admit that a lot of folks were wrong about Bo and that he was a better coach than we thought. Many, including myself, thought just about anyone could win 9 games playing in this turd of conference division. Apparently that was not the case so the only way for someone explain what this season has morphed into is to create a narrative that the cupboard is completely bare and void of all talent. That 1-6 Purdue is superior and this is all Bo's fault. I'll admit I was wrong about Bo as a coach. Still happy he isn't here, but man did we swing and miss with Riley.

Any decent coach can win 9 games per year at Nebraska with the schedules we've had for the past several years. But changing staffs and dealing with Pelini's dysfunctional culture is going to take longer than one Spring.

Transition years are tough. I think that realistically no one could see this coming. On the other hand, losing talent like Ameer and RG isn't replaceable overnight, because it took 3 years for those guys to become Ameer and RG as Huskers. The cupboard wasn't bare, but mighty thin in spots. QB being one of them. RB has talent, but lacks any kind of in game college experience. Newby played some last year, but not enough to be considered a veteran.

Kenny Bell was a very good downfield blocker, and did catch more passes than he dropped, something that has happened far too much this season.

You can make arguements for both sides in this discussion. Coaches aren't doing a good job, and from a pure effort stand point, the players are not leaving it all out on the field each and every down either, and that has been an issue for the last 3 years. ONce this team has gotten behind in games in the last few seasons, they have either quit or found ways to quit. Thats on the players more than coaches, but like I said, its hard to really go one way or the other.

I will say that I have seen players in the right position to make plays, and seen alot of whiffs on defense, and thats been an issue now for at least 3 years. Offense, dropped passes are not something that has just occurred this season, that has been a plague for the last few years as well. QB's making bad decisions have almost been a part of this program now since TMart.

The culture Pelini allowed (and bequeathed to the new staff) lacked discipline, maturity, self-control and consistency- basically the traits he himself modeled. It was no surprise they didn't always show up to play. This year has had even more excuses for them to not show up. It's disappointing, but maybe we shouldn't be surprised.

Denial. Which step is next?

 

[Branno]

Oh let's not kid ourselves about it being a rebuilding project. It absolutely is a rebuilding project.

Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project.

Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition.

You do know what attrition means right???

Do you?

Okay let's talk about attrition then.

Abdullah was easily the offensive MVP over the last 2 years. Carried this team on his back when we needed him too and now that bell cow is gone. That only strengthens the case that it is a rebuilding scenario.

1. It's pretty clear you don't understand the true definition of attrition as it correlates to college football. Here's a hint: It's not like the NFL. There's attrition every single season in college football. Every single college football team experiences it. Players graduate or in small minority of cases some players are able to declare early for the NFL draft. Some just quit or leave the team or stop playing due to medical/personal reasons. Hopefully this makes some sort of sense to you as far as attrition and how it effects every single college football team every single year.

2. Per the bolded if you think losing one player automatically equates into calling the next season a 'rebuilding year' regardless of how good that player might have been then by your definition every single season is a rebuilding year.

Here's another hint. It's not.

I'll continue discussing this point with you when you stop cherry picking. All I'm saying is, Bo Pelini did not leave a fully equipped team behind and that the issues run deeper than the numbers show.

But how many coaches leave behind a 'fully equipped team' in college football????????? Do you not follow the sport???? Again this is not the NFL.

Let me make it clear for you. While Nebraska lost their best rb in a long time and a 1st round draft pick on defense there were still a lot of guys leftover from a team that won 9 games just last year. Now suddenly we are 3-6 and it's not because Bo didn't leave us with a fully equipped team. Do you not think any blame should be laid upon the current new staff of coaches???!!!! There's talent on this roster to warrant a better record than 3-6 and the coaching decisions which have at times resembled ones made on the high school level are right there in front of you for everyone to see.

Holy excuses batman.

So you're saying it's a rebuilding project? The reason we are 3-6 is a combinatiBull crapon of what was left behind and the current staff's decisions. They are not mutually exclusive. Bo would have had to do some rebuilding if he was given another year.

Bull crap. We would be 9-0 right now if Bo was still here. And don't make that out to be wishing or hoping that he was still here. He forced their hand and had to go. But if Pederhorst hadn't been such a prick and Bo hadn't been such a prick and they could have worked things out, we would be in the top 10 right now.

I don't think we'd be undefeated, but 1-2 losses max.

 

[BRV920]

Jesus Kernal you are delusional! are you even watching these games? All I hear out of you guys is excuses about how this is Bo's fault. It's total BS!! Every week you trot out a new Party line when you can't defend your previous BS. Good coaches win. Bad ones don't. Simple as that. Listening to Hail Varsity right now and brought up the stats of elite coaches. Not one of them turned a good program into a dumpster fire! They turn dumpster fires into winners in one or two seasons. Showing improvement in their first season. Pretty much tells me all I need to know about Riley and his staff and I was willing to give him three years

 

[BRV920]

Jesus Kernal you are delusional! are you even watching these games? All I hear out of you guys is excuses about how this is Bo's fault. It's total BS!! Every week you trot out a new Party line when you can't defend your previous BS. Good coaches win. Bad ones don't. Simple as that. Listening to Hail Varsity right now and brought up the stats of elite coaches. Not one of them turned a good program into a dumpster fire! They turn dumpster fires into winners in one or two seasons. Showing improvement in their first season. Pretty much tells me all I need to know about Riley and his staff and I was willing to give him three years

 

[GBRedneck]

Oh let's not kid ourselves about it being a rebuilding project. It absolutely is a rebuilding project.

Nebraska's attrition from last year was normal. Yes we lost Abdullah and Gregory notably but this was in no way a rebuilding project.

Bo's teams were a house of cards. I explained why above. I never mentioned attrition.

You do know what attrition means right???

Do you?

Okay let's talk about attrition then.

Abdullah was easily the offensive MVP over the last 2 years. Carried this team on his back when we needed him too and now that bell cow is gone. That only strengthens the case that it is a rebuilding scenario.

1. It's pretty clear you don't understand the true definition of attrition as it correlates to college football. Here's a hint: It's not like the NFL. There's attrition every single season in college football. Every single college football team experiences it. Players graduate or in small minority of cases some players are able to declare early for the NFL draft. Some just quit or leave the team or stop playing due to medical/personal reasons. Hopefully this makes some sort of sense to you as far as attrition and how it effects every single college football team every single year.

2. Per the bolded if you think losing one player automatically equates into calling the next season a 'rebuilding year' regardless of how good that player might have been then by your definition every single season is a rebuilding year.

Here's another hint. It's not.

I'll continue discussing this point with you when you stop cherry picking. All I'm saying is, Bo Pelini did not leave a fully equipped team behind and that the issues run deeper than the numbers show.

But how many coaches leave behind a 'fully equipped team' in college football????????? Do you not follow the sport???? Again this is not the NFL.

Let me make it clear for you. While Nebraska lost their best rb in a long time and a 1st round draft pick on defense there were still a lot of guys leftover from a team that won 9 games just last year. Now suddenly we are 3-6 and it's not because Bo didn't leave us with a fully equipped team. Do you not think any blame should be laid upon the current new staff of coaches???!!!! There's talent on this roster to warrant a better record than 3-6 and the coaching decisions which have at times resembled ones made on the high school level are right there in front of you for everyone to see.

Holy excuses batman.

So you're saying it's a rebuilding project? The reason we are 3-6 is a combinatiBull crapon of what was left behind and the current staff's decisions. They are not mutually exclusive. Bo would have had to do some rebuilding if he was given another year.

Bull crap. We would be 9-0 right now if Bo was still here. And don't make that out to be wishing or hoping that he was still here. He forced their hand and had to go. But if Pederhorst hadn't been such a prick and Bo hadn't been such a prick and they could have worked things out, we would be in the top 10 right now.

I don't think we'd be undefeated, but 1-2 losses max.

Who would we have lost to? We've seen all the teams play mutliple games.

 

[PaulCrewe]

I'm sure Riley will be retained and told that we must show improvement next year. Of course we'll show improvement... how could we not? That'll buy Riley ANOTHER year........ ugh.... can someone put me in a freeze chamber and wake me up when it's over?

Fresno State- toss up

Wyoming- toss up

Oregon loss

at NW loss

Illinois toss up

at Indiana toss up

Purdue toss up

at Wiscy loss

at OSU loss

Minnesota toss up

Maryland toss up

at Iowa loss

I see 7 winnable games, all of which are toss ups. Assuming he goes chalk and does 50/50 in those games, thats 3.5 wins (i know thats impossible). I still see only 4 or 5 wins next year MAX. While that is improvement, I see no scenario how he survives 4 or 5 wins next year.

edit: math error

I was gonna throw this out there as well. Next years schedule is light years harder. After next year, the"rebuilding process" will be at what point??? It could be like finally pouring the footings for your new house after digging them ayear prior and then waiting for another two years before starting framing exterior walls

 

[BoNeyard]

the rumblings have begun. This thing is cleaned up after the Iowa game.

Echorst will be fired any day now...

Riley will be fired after the Iowa game.

Nebraska is on the market late November.

 

[teachercd]

It is not if Bo would be doing better this year...it is if there are any other coaches that SE could have realistically hired a different coach that could be doing better right now.

 

[GBRedneck]

the rumblings have begun. This thing is cleaned up after the Iowa game.

Echorst will be fired any day now...

Riley will be fired after the Iowa game.

Nebraska is on the market late November.

Please be true. Please be true. Please be true.

 

[C N Red]

the rumblings have begun. This thing is cleaned up after the Iowa game.

Echorst will be fired any day now...

Riley will be fired after the Iowa game.

Nebraska is on the market late November.

Rumblings or good sources?

My bet is there have been some stipulations put in place. Id guess if they win at least 2 of last three games and get to a bowl they will be saved. If not, well id say things are up in the air then.

 

[Kernal]

Jesus Kernal you are delusional! are you even watching these games? All I hear out of you guys is excuses about how this is Bo's fault. It's total BS!! Every week you trot out a new Party line when you can't defend your previous BS. Good coaches win. Bad ones don't. Simple as that. Listening to Hail Varsity right now and brought up the stats of elite coaches. Not one of them turned a good program into a dumpster fire! They turn dumpster fires into winners in one or two seasons. Showing improvement in their first season. Pretty much tells me all I need to know about Riley and his staff and I was willing to give him three years

I did not watch the last quarter of the Purdue game, no. So I missed the best part of the game.

There is no "we guys." I'm not in a club. I don't coordinate my thoughts or opinions with anybody else. But that's a nice strawman to avoid actually refuting any of the arguments I made.

I don't listen to "Hail Varsity," whatever that is. The media love to whip people up into a frenzy. More exposure = more ad dollars (pennies).

Your vague story about "elite" coaches is pretty meaningless without specifics.

I guess this is why I have you "ignored." You add nothing to a conversation.

 

[brophog]

the rumblings have begun. This thing is cleaned up after the Iowa game.

Echorst will be fired any day now...

Riley will be fired after the Iowa game.

Nebraska is on the market late November.

That was just my tummy.

 

[Kernal]

the rumblings have begun. This thing is cleaned up after the Iowa game.

Echorst will be fired any day now...

Riley will be fired after the Iowa game.

Nebraska is on the market late November.

Talk about delusional.