Adrian Martinez

Mavric said:
I'd like to watch that play again.  That was a pretty bogus call if it was actually on Benhart.  I saw several on Twitter say that Jurgens was probably holding as well.  So perhaps they meant to say 51 instead of 54.  Doesn't really matter other than if it really was on Benhart I think we got screwed.
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IT WAS A BOGUS CALL!  The replay in slowmo  did no favors.  The second AM got out in space with daylight, the hanky came flying in.  Total crap call.

 
admo said:
No question about his accuracy overall.  Was nearly perfect (even was smart enough to throw one a way which negated a sack).  He's not holding onto the ball per say.  The o line does him no favors at times.  But it's clear to see that he's not throwing timely passes or in sync as often as he could be. Guys shouldn't have to turn around and wait on the ball that often. They should be able to get YAC instead of a SMACK.
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And Martinez was able to do that quite a bit as a freshman when he had a talented, veteran receiver like Stanley Morgan (along with Spielman). Martinez hasn’t had that type of receiver since then. 

 
admo said:
No question about his accuracy overall.  Was nearly perfect (even was smart enough to throw one a way which negated a sack).  He's not holding onto the ball per say.  The o line does him no favors at times.  But it's clear to see that he's not throwing timely passes or in sync as often as he could be. Guys shouldn't have to turn around and wait on the ball that often. They should be able to get YAC instead of a SMACK.
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I'd be curious how things are happening in practice.  This is pure speculation on my part but I wonder if we've been trying to get the new guys up to speed because they have more potential but they just aren't there yet so they don't get as many snaps during games.  But maybe that means we're trying to get 8-9 guys reps in practice instead of 5-6 so it's tougher to get everyone synced up.

 
ColoradoHusk said:
And Martinez was able to do that quite a bit as a freshman when he had a talented, veteran receiver like Stanley Morgan (along with Spielman). Martinez hasn’t had that type of receiver since then. 
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Yes he was, for sure, and defenses had trouble with those guys. They stretched the field and lots of YAC.  Seemed like Stoltz was emerging and in the mix as well. 

 
admo said:
Yes he was, for sure, and defenses had trouble with those guys. They stretched the field and lots of YAC.  Seemed like Stoltz was emerging and in the mix as well. 
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I watched the NU-Illinois game in person in 2018, and it was amazing to see how many receivers were running open on deep routes, and Adrian was hitting them. Two years later, it’s not the same type of offense. I know Big Ten defenses are learning what Frost is doing, but the talent hasn’t been there at WR. 

 
Mavric said:
I'd be curious how things are happening in practice.  This is pure speculation on my part but I wonder if we've been trying to get the new guys up to speed because they have more potential but they just aren't there yet so they don't get as many snaps during games.  But maybe that means we're trying to get 8-9 guys reps in practice instead of 5-6 so it's tougher to get everyone synced up.
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I don't know, but it could very well be. Different guys running the same rep play with different speeds (talent/quickness) and slightly different breaks (vets/newcomers). 

 
macroboy said:
True. And then we got to see that Luke can run really fast...and that is about all.

I do think AM holds the ball too long, and misses open receivers, and he is still a better passer than LMC by quite a ways. We can also run way more of our offense with him in the game. He hasn't developed like we thought he would but it is obvious he is who needs to be starting at QB.
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Frost puts Martinez into lousy pocket passing plays to the slowest receivers of all time. He abandons the style that just took us down the field at lightening speed and goes back to the nobody open, nobody blocks crap. 
THAT IS ENTIRELY ON FROST. We don't roll out to buy time, as if you could with our matador right side of the line, but we don't even try. THAT'S FROST.
No more talking about player mistakes costing us when we just got through watching his lousy play calling and weak pass rush bumble away the game.

 
Decked said:
Fumble wasn’t even his fault. Adrian is still the QB and Luke is nothing more than a change of pace & relief player. If we had some better players around him old Adrian may make a return every now and then. 
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This is essentially how I feel about Adrian, too.

I remember the drive (I think 2nd quarter) where Adrian came back in. Jurgens had done well the previous two drives with Luke, but then sent two wild snaps to AM on this particular drive, one of which set up a 3rd and 23. The look on AM's face when he climbed up from the ground was a 'I don't know what I'm supposed to do here.'

AM certainly has his own struggles, but it's a lot to ask him (or really any QB) to make up for the all the mistakes and errors happening elsewhere.

 
Enhance said:
This is essentially how I feel about Adrian, too.

I remember the drive (I think 2nd quarter) where Adrian came back in. Jurgens had done well the previous two drives with Luke, but then sent two wild snaps to AM on this particular drive, one of which set up a 3rd and 23. The look on AM's face when he climbed up from the ground was a 'I don't know what I'm supposed to do here.'

AM certainly has his own struggles, but it's a lot to ask him (or really any QB) to make up for the all the mistakes and errors happening elsewhere.
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For a sec, the thought crossed my mind that Jurgens might have been actively trying to sabotage Martinez. Then I thought, nah. No way a Nebraska boy would intentionally try to make the Huskers lose. 

 
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Ok. I have been an AM apologist for his entire career. I really like him. He drives me nuts at times but I want him to succeed so badly. I admit, I did call for LM after the NW game.  

It is so nice to see AM stay composed and positive.  41-50 in last 2 games. Pretty stinking good.

Best part is interview on BTN after game.  He may be one of classiest Husker ever. Wanted to make sure he acted like a captain even when was benched. 

 
You won't find an easier kid to root for. He is an exceptional human being, and leader. He's the first guy that I remember getting benched where it actually hurt my heart. Big fan, no matter what he does at Nebraska the rest of the way.

 
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@HANC I've been an AM fan too but wanted the switch after NW. Now I wonder how Illinois would have gone with him in. I hope the offense around him keeps improving and he goes off next year for his senior year. 

 
I had been a strong defender of Martinez in his first 2+ years, but I also thought it was time to see what Luke had. After the past 2 games, I think it’s clear that Martinez is the answer for the team to win games now. He’s not always pretty, but he’s the best option now. NU sinks or swims with him. 

 
The biggest difference between the beginning of the year and now is the WR we put on the field. More Betts and Robinson actually in the slot helps a bunch.

 
So hard to find good role models these days...I was very happy to be able to watch the game with my son and AM’s post game interview and explain to my son how AM responded to his benching. Be like AM.

 
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