Armstrong Leading the QB Race
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74Hunter
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No, the coaches and the media have been saying and reporting that this OL is the most athletic and deepest of the Pelini era. The last I checked the QB isn't a line position.
74Hunter
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I didn't like the 52% completion percentage at all, considering the competition. Looking back at some of the highlights, many of those completions were underthrown or behind the receiver, and the receiver made a good play on them.
Fair enough about him throwing some balls away. Maybe on some of those throw aways, if he would have had better pocket presence and play making ability, he could have stepped up in the pocket and got a few yards instead of putting us in a hole.
Lastly, turnovers have been a huge problem, and Tommy had 2 INTs dropped. I can stomach him not being a playmaker if he makes good decisions and doesn't turn the ball over. But he pretty much single handedly lost the MSU game for us last year due to his turnovers.
If he plays the same against MSU as he did against FAU, we won't win.
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Landlord
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Guy Chamberlin
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Tommy's 52% completion percentage didn't bother me at all.
He passes the eye test.
He's already a playmaker.
He was last year, too, under less than ideal circumstances.
He's got a better arm than Tommie Frazier and Scott Frost, and he's not far behind with his legs.
His footwork is already outstanding.
QB is about leadership, and Armstrong carried himself like a leader right out of the gate.
Why not enjoy him?
He passes the eye test.
He's already a playmaker.
He was last year, too, under less than ideal circumstances.
He's got a better arm than Tommie Frazier and Scott Frost, and he's not far behind with his legs.
His footwork is already outstanding.
QB is about leadership, and Armstrong carried himself like a leader right out of the gate.
Why not enjoy him?
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BigRedBuster
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I agree. Officially he had 51.7%. But, there were three drops that I can remember. If those were caught, that jumps to 62%.
He had a few bad passes. But, he was putting a lot of the balls where they needed to be.
HuskerShark
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Strong throwing QBs in tight situations put the ball where if his WR can't catch the ball, no one will. I thought that aside from the Westerkatch and the bad throw that landed right into the FAU LB's arms, Tommy did a good job at that. If you're reading the articles and quotes from Tommy, he admits that he'd like to have 4 or 5 of his throws back. (2 long throws to Kenny, the screen to Ameer, etc.)
I love that TA is his own toughest critic (aside from you I guess). He knows what he needs to improve upon, and I believe that he's doing the things he needs to be doing to improve upon them. Plus, he seems to be a lot more explosive of a runner than he was last year.
Give him time. He's got all the tools to be a really good QB before he's done here.
Count 'Bility
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Personally, I always thought when you threw the ball away, albeit out of bounds and so on, it should be treated like a sacrafice in baseball. Where basically, the throw doesnt count. Cuz it's technically a pretty good play rather than forcing it into a pick or taking a sack, but still an incompletion. Doesnt count against your average, yet, doesnt help it either. Just a "meh" play. With that said, Armstrong made the obvious right choice under diress saturday by throwing away, what, half a dozen passes? Instead of forcing them like he was doing so many times last year? 2nd and ten is so much better than 2nd and 17 or 1st down for the the opponent.
Ratt Mhule
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74Hunter
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Iirc, didn't he have at least 3 turnovers? I remember him dropping one ball around our 5 yard line which led to a MSU TD, and he had that bad pitch to Newby pin the first series. I thought that there may have been one more, don't recall though.
Ratt Mhule
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It as a good pitch, Newby just flat out dropped it. He threw an interception that Bell slipped and fell down. Cant put that on him. He did fumble twice. One was an exchange between him and center, sometimes its on the QB, sometimes its on the center. Hard to tell with that. But he did not single handedly almost lose that game for us. Far from it.Iirc, didn't he have at least 3 turnovers? I remember him dropping one ball around our 5 yard line which led to a MSU TD, and he had that bad pitch to Newby pin the first series. I thought that there may have been one more, don't recall though.
whateveritis1224
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The Int was Armstrong throwing outside and Bell going inside, a misread by Armstrong because he threw it directly to the DB. Bell slipped and fell because he tried to reach back to grab or at least touch the pass.It as a good pitch, Newby just flat out dropped it. He threw an interception that Bell slipped and fell down. Cant put that on him. He did fumble twice. One was an exchange between him and center, sometimes its on the QB, sometimes its on the center. Hard to tell with that. But he did not single handedly almost lose that game for us. Far from it.Iirc, didn't he have at least 3 turnovers? I remember him dropping one ball around our 5 yard line which led to a MSU TD, and he had that bad pitch to Newby pin the first series. I thought that there may have been one more, don't recall though.
74Hunter
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I just went and watched all the turn overs from that game. The pitch was high and behind Newby, Kenny didn't fall down, Tommy just threw behind him (a theme is reoccurring here) and the alleged snap exchange was difficult to see, but Tommy had the ball in his hands (right on his hip) but didn't secure the ball. He was bumped by the pulling guard and dropped the ball.It as a good pitch, Newby just flat out dropped it. He threw an interception that Bell slipped and fell down. Cant put that on him. He did fumble twice. One was an exchange between him and center, sometimes its on the QB, sometimes its on the center. Hard to tell with that. But he did not single handedly almost lose that game for us. Far from it.Iirc, didn't he have at least 3 turnovers? I remember him dropping one ball around our 5 yard line which led to a MSU TD, and he had that bad pitch to Newby pin the first series. I thought that there may have been one more, don't recall though.
So, it was worse than I thought.
Ratt Mhule
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Of course it was worse than you thought, you don't like the guy. Everything is going to be bad in your eyes with Tommy.I just went and watched all the turn overs from that game. The pitch was high and behind Newby, Kenny didn't fall down, Tommy just threw behind him (a theme is reoccurring here) and the alleged snap exchange was difficult to see, but Tommy had the ball in his hands (right on his hip) but didn't secure the ball. He was bumped by the pulling guard and dropped the ball.It as a good pitch, Newby just flat out dropped it. He threw an interception that Bell slipped and fell down. Cant put that on him. He did fumble twice. One was an exchange between him and center, sometimes its on the QB, sometimes its on the center. Hard to tell with that. But he did not single handedly almost lose that game for us. Far from it.Iirc, didn't he have at least 3 turnovers? I remember him dropping one ball around our 5 yard line which led to a MSU TD, and he had that bad pitch to Newby pin the first series. I thought that there may have been one more, don't recall though.
So, it was worse than I thought.
You're really telling me that you don't think Newby should have handled that pitch?
