Armstrong Leading the QB Race

[Saunders]

What's best about it is Martinez lovers would skewer your a$$ and barbecue you if you once mentioned you would like to see this unproven freshmen named Armstrong get a chance at starting over Taylor.

Probably because it had happened the previous 3 years with Green, Carnes, Turner, and even Kellogg.

 

[74Hunter]

They also could have ran off tackle for every play and beaten Purdue. It's like they were trying to teach the kid or something.

If I recall, Purdue came out with a different defensive alignment that managed to throw Tommy off. Previously they had not shown a 3-4 before. It did lead to more mistakes by Tommy, but we still kicked their butts anyway.

Tommy's individual stats don't jump off the page, but you couldn't have watched a game he was in last year (the one loss excepted...we were pretty cold in that one) and not seen a lot of promise shown by the offense he led. It looked cohesive and Tommy looked unflappable. We took more risks but that also meant stressing the defense in different areas more. There was this sense that the offense was always in the fight, any given drive.

I don't really agree with that at all. The offense took more risks with Tommy versus Taylor? I really don't think that is true.

Agreed. It's along the same lines as the anti-Taylor crowd who proclaimed that the team just played harder for TA than TM, and was better. People try to convince themselves that something is true, regardless of whether it is or not.

 

[NUpolo8]

Maybe there actually needs to be a real QB coach on staff?

Just like which other schools?

Like the school that it is located in the capital city of a Midwestern state, wears red, has a sellout streak and used to win championships used to.

When?

Honestly?

 

[Enhance]

What's best about it is Martinez lovers would skewer your a$$ and barbecue you if you once mentioned you would like to see this unproven freshmen named Armstrong get a chance at starting over Taylor.

It's just an illogical argument. We obviously don't know how the season would have turned out with a healthy TM playing. But, TM's knowledge of the playbook and his playmaking ability when healthy was electric. He certainly had his faults and there's no question about that. But, bad QB's don't break Husker offensive records, even if they've been there playing for four years.

 

[Landlord]

We had Turner Gill as a dedicated quarterbacks coach from 1992-2003.

No QB coaches before that.

 

[Saunders]

Maybe there actually needs to be a real QB coach on staff?

Just like which other schools?

Like the school that it is located in the capital city of a Midwestern state, wears red, has a sellout streak and used to win championships used to.

When?

Honestly?

For some reason, I thought Gill's title was OC even though he coached QB's and Tom was OC.

To get a QB coach now, we have to fire someone.

 

[Junior]

For some reason, I thought Gill's title was OC even though he coached QB's and Tom was OC.

To get a QB coach now, we have to fire someone.

I have an idea.... and apparently his mustache already left.

 

[True2tRA]

You see what happens when you take two sentences out of a 30 sentence paragraph. You eliminate the entire point of what was being said. As you can see by the last two posts that quoted only a small portion of my point, the point was completely lost. The point was about Stanton, not Matrinez for Christs sake.

 

[Landlord]

You see what happens when you take two sentences out of a 30 sentence paragraph. You eliminate the entire point of what was being said. As you can see by the last two posts that quoted only a small portion of my point, the point was completely lost. The point was about Stanton, not Matrinez for Christs sake.

Yet you felt the need to phrase the entire point around Taylor with an extra, unneeded paragraph...

 

[True2tRA]

You see what happens when you take two sentences out of a 30 sentence paragraph. You eliminate the entire point of what was being said. As you can see by the last two posts that quoted only a small portion of my point, the point was completely lost. The point was about Stanton, not Matrinez for Christs sake.

Yet you felt the need to phrase the entire point around Taylor with an extra, unneeded paragraph...

You are wise and all knowing. You knew what I intended to say without even reading what I wrote. I'm impressed by your brilliance everyday, but not nearly as impressed by you as you are.

 

[Street Novelist]

9-4

Don't even joke about it!

 

[clyde40]

Is there someplace to look to see just how many other than googling every FBS school? I would just be curious to know the percentages that have them and their level of success at the QB position.

I googled just the teams in the Big Ten and SEC and 20 out of 28 teams have an OC/QB coach combination. Mizzou and Texas A&M have assistant coaches in charge of QB's, Minn and Penn State have passing game coordinators coach QB's, Michigan State has their recruiting coordinator coach QB's, South Carolina and Vandy have coaches fully focused on QB's, and Rutgers does not have a coach listed in charge or QB's.

A different sample yields similar results. Of the teams that finished in the BCS Top 25, three had dedicated QB coaches (FSU, MSU, South Carolina), Missouri's QB coach also held the Associate HC title which effectively brings the total to 4. Twenty had OC/Co-OCs coaching QBs, and one, Stanford, had one coach dividing time between QB, WR and RC duties.

So, in other words, having a dedicated quarterback coach really doesn't seem to have any kind of direct variation on quarterback play at all.

No it just doesn't make a difference at other schools but, with the top notch facilities and millions of resources at Nebraska it would change everything.

 

[Saunders]

Is there someplace to look to see just how many other than googling every FBS school? I would just be curious to know the percentages that have them and their level of success at the QB position.

I googled just the teams in the Big Ten and SEC and 20 out of 28 teams have an OC/QB coach combination. Mizzou and Texas A&M have assistant coaches in charge of QB's, Minn and Penn State have passing game coordinators coach QB's, Michigan State has their recruiting coordinator coach QB's, South Carolina and Vandy have coaches fully focused on QB's, and Rutgers does not have a coach listed in charge or QB's.

A different sample yields similar results. Of the teams that finished in the BCS Top 25, three had dedicated QB coaches (FSU, MSU, South Carolina), Missouri's QB coach also held the Associate HC title which effectively brings the total to 4. Twenty had OC/Co-OCs coaching QBs, and one, Stanford, had one coach dividing time between QB, WR and RC duties.

So, in other words, having a dedicated quarterback coach really doesn't seem to have any kind of direct variation on quarterback play at all.

No it just doesn't make a difference at other schools but, with the top notch facilities and millions of resources at Nebraska it would change everything.

 

[NUpolo8]

Is there someplace to look to see just how many other than googling every FBS school? I would just be curious to know the percentages that have them and their level of success at the QB position.

I googled just the teams in the Big Ten and SEC and 20 out of 28 teams have an OC/QB coach combination. Mizzou and Texas A&M have assistant coaches in charge of QB's, Minn and Penn State have passing game coordinators coach QB's, Michigan State has their recruiting coordinator coach QB's, South Carolina and Vandy have coaches fully focused on QB's, and Rutgers does not have a coach listed in charge or QB's.

A different sample yields similar results. Of the teams that finished in the BCS Top 25, three had dedicated QB coaches (FSU, MSU, South Carolina), Missouri's QB coach also held the Associate HC title which effectively brings the total to 4. Twenty had OC/Co-OCs coaching QBs, and one, Stanford, had one coach dividing time between QB, WR and RC duties.

So, in other words, having a dedicated quarterback coach really doesn't seem to have any kind of direct variation on quarterback play at all.

No it just doesn't make a difference at other schools but, with the top notch facilities and millions of resources at Nebraska it would change everything.

It's late, but did I just see someone dismiss having a dedicated QB coach when the national champion and the Rose Bowl champion have one?

 

[Saunders]

The old correlation/causation fallacy.