At what point do we stop bringing up Bo to defend Riley?

I mean, statistically there are some people butthurt about the Pelini firing, right?
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Yes. I don't think they realize that Pelini forced Eichorst to fire him, so he could leave with his paycheck, which makes it a real head scratcher to me. Bo got what he wanted, and if he didn't, then we are stuck with a coach figuring out how he gets fired THIS year.

The bone I pick on these threads is that Pelini brought out the worst in a lot of "College Football's Greatest Fans", belying that self awarded title. These are the ones who are suffering the additional pain and anguish in that they can't use a 3-0 Riley record to pummel real or imagined adversaries in their scorched earth policy...and yes, I give them the needle when the chance presents itself.

 
True2tRA said:
Guy Chamberlin said:
GBRedneck said:
zoogs said:
There's sometimes a difference between what you think will happen and what you hope to happen.
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Yes. But you don't hope you're wrong: "I don't 'hope I'm wrong'".

The Woodshed is not private; it's opt in, not confidential. They're your words, so own them.

You made up your mind long ago and now you're here to take a leak in everyone's Cheerios. It's not a mystery that this would go unappreciated by most. Perhaps some day Riley will prove to be a disaster, or lose it and cuss out the fans. That'll be Christmastime for you, and you'll have plenty of choir to preach to then. Jumping the gun a little eagerly at the moment.
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I'll own my whole post, not your cherry picked selective quoting:
I feel the same as walksalone. I don't even know what you mean by "give him a chance". Do I have the option of vetoing the hire and not giving him a chance? But I do have to be honest. I don't "hope I'm wrong". I just don't really care any more. I don't have any hope that he will do any good. I think he, and his staff even moreso, are in way over their heads. I guess if he does prove me wrong I'll be pleasantly surprised and I'll admit I was wrong and climb aboard the Husker train again. I like seeing an underdog come out on top once in awhile and Riley doing it would make for an awesome story. But, I don't think I can really get back to my old 1969-2003 level of Husker fandom until they get someone competent running the program. Going out and hiring the first nice guy who will take the job just doesn't work. Anwhere! Especially at Nebraska. It's a unique place in the college football world. Devaney and Osborne laid out a perfect blueprint for making Husker football successful. Pederson took a sh#t on it, Pederhorst is wiping his a$$ with it and Perlman is dead set on flushing it. If somebody can recover it from the waste treatment plant, I'll definitely be back on board.
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If you don't care, and you don't hope, and you call Riley "Callahan 2.0" three games into his career, and you think the UNL administration actively wants Nebraska football to fail, and everyone who believes otherwise is a gullible idiot....Nebraska football fan might not be the right fit for you.

Also of note: your recall and analysis of Nebraska football has been uniformly awful this week.

Tell you what: if you can find a single informed opinion that believes Nebraska merely went out and hired the first nice guy it could find, I will eat my hat.

A hat made of pie.
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Mmmmm........pie.........

What kind of pie?

Personally I'm a big fan of almost all pies it turns out. Once somebody else lists another pie I remember that I like that one too!
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I used up half the rhubarb I had in my freezer in some rhubarb crisp. It's fantastic. Not pie, but damn is it yummy. Would be even better re-heated with a little vanilla ice cream on top, but I dare not create something so delicious.

 
True2tRA said:
If seeing a guy like Mike Riley fail gives you your "day in the sun", then I question you're entire being.

Bo Pelini is the kind of guy you can root against, he gave people plenty of reasons, and even then I never rooted for him to fail. If he failed, it meant Nebraska failed. I had hope for Pelini even in that final year when I had grown pretty tired of it all.

Combined with the fact that this is season one for this staff, three games in, and the fact that they seem like some of the most likable personalities we've has around here in awhile, I don't get how anyone could be unwilling to let this play out a bit.
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This is my view on the situation. Do I like that the team is 1-2 right now? Hell no, but at the same time Riley has a positive outlook and personality and it's hard to not root for him. In addition, it appears Riley & company are trying to make changes (e.g., starting CBs will likely be different this Saturday) to fix what just hasn't worked up to this point. They have also shown me that they are able to make adjustments during the game to put the team in position to win. Unfortunately, they have come close but are 0-2 in those games. I'm willing to give them more time to get their players in and coach up the current players that are on the roster on their way of doing things.

Will it work? Maybe, maybe not, but I'm going to try and enjoy it while it is here. I only get to enjoy 12 games (minimum) per year before I'm pining for college football to return again. I'm going to sit back and try to enjoy the rest of the season.

 
Bowfin said:
I mean, statistically there are some people butthurt about the Pelini firing, right?
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Yes. I don't think they realize that Pelini forced Eichorst to fire him, so he could leave with his paycheck, which makes it a real head scratcher to me. Bo got what he wanted, and if he didn't, then we are stuck with a coach figuring out how he gets fired THIS year.

The bone I pick on these threads is that Pelini brought out the worst in a lot of "College Football's Greatest Fans", belying that self awarded title. These are the ones who are suffering the additional pain and anguish in that they can't use a 3-0 Riley record to pummel real or imagined adversaries in their scorched earth policy...and yes, I give them the needle when the chance presents itself.
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It's almost like he rubbed us the wrong way with his attitude, personality, embarrassing us in front of large viewing audiences (not just talking about the blowout losses in big games), and the things he said about his boss and fans behind closed doors.

 
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It isn't "censorship" to ask people to stop shouting over every conversation. Some would call that a pretty reasonable request.

"Groupthink" is a fun buzzword. Right up there with "butthurt."
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You suggest that the Ignore function doesn't work and Administrative intervention is needed.

How would you phrase your request to the 5 posters you've called out as members of a cabal, and what if they disagreed with your definition of "shouting?" Do you see any difference between Cabal Member #2 and Cabal Member #5 in how they converse? How about the others coming to their defense?

I mean, pretty much all these threads open with variations on the question "How Are You Feeling Right Now?" and feeling like Nebraska hired the wrong coach isn't unreasonable. Some of the arguments are, and some of the attitudes pretty sh**ty, but when other posters call them out, that's what self-policing is all about. When the Admin defines who is a trouble maker and who isn't, it's a real mood killer.

For me, at least.

And the ACLU.

 
Right. There will always be bad fans (I'm no fan of booing, but I don't think most people would consider that much of an issue. But you guys know the kinds we're talking about...)

It's up to the coaches how they respond to that. Better yet, how they teach their team, explicitly or by example, how to respond to it.

Bo went the unbelievably mind boggling route on this one.

 
So, with this logic, coaches all across the country should be acting like Bo because their fan(atics) made them do it.
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No, just the ones whose team get booed by "College Footballs Greatest Fans!". So to more completely answer the question, it wasn't the boorish behavior, but maybe the hypocrisy that probably put Pelini over the edge. I'm sure Pelini heard a lot of boos in the Rust Belt, hardscrabble towns of Ohio, but they never claimed to be "so gosh darned nice!"

 
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It's up to the coaches how they respond to that. Better yet, how they teach their team, explicitly or by example, how to respond to it.
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I think winning the game was a good response and an excellent example. I also wasn't offended when he told the fans they could give him a kiss and where they could plant it.

Honestly, Pelini got my goat more when a couple of years ago he did that puzzling strategy of neither rushing the punter nor setting up a return. But I have zero investment as far as time, ego, and money in being a Husker fan, so I never felt like Pelini was telling ME to kiss.

 
zoogs said:
Right. There will always be bad fans (I'm no fan of booing, but I don't think most people would consider that much of an issue. But you guys know the kinds we're talking about...)

It's up to the coaches how they respond to that. Better yet, how they teach their team, explicitly or by example, how to respond to it.

Bo went the unbelievably mind boggling route on this one.
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For a guy who adamently denied listening to or reading the media, he was constantly complaining about it and reacting to it. Too bad he didn't spend more of his time and energy managing the program and getting the team ready.

 
True2tRA said:
True2tRA said:
How do you see the post count of each individual in a thread? I swore I had found a way to do that once.
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Would anyone take a second to respond to this please?
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On the main page of any forum, Husker Football, Recruiting, etc. On the list of forum topics.

Where it says "208 replies," click that. A little window pops up and lists the people who responded.

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