ATH Curtis Carter

[dylan]

It's easy to check the facts.

Enunwa committed to us on Oct 26. 2009 He had a visit with Wash State on 10/9 and a visit with us on 10/16. No other offers. OCT. 26 is NOT EARLY. The kid was not highly recruited for whatever reason and not a single offer from a California school.

As a comparison, Keeston Terry, I think we had committed in June, maybe before and we were all thrilled regardless what EZ-E might be saying now. He COMMITTED early but had a nice offer list.

Carter committed to us about the same time or earlier than Enunwa.

for someone so good at research, i'm shocked that you still haven't found a single example to support your claim that the "bo doctrine" is either new or temporary.

It is so temporary I would say it is likely no longer in effect. We'll see as time goes by. This isn't the last time a kid is going to decide to check out another school after an oral committment.

After blowing steam in the tirade the "Bo Doctrine" likely changed to a "flexible" policy quicker than Napalitano went from saying "Everything worked just like it should" to "That ain't the way it's sposed to work, somebody screwed up".

keep me posted! :lol:

(and don't forget you can still go back and find past examples, too!)

 

[irieboy8]

why are we still talking about CC anyways :dunno :dunno :dunno :dunno :dunno

 

[Billyball]

why are we still talking about CC anyways :dunno :dunno :dunno :dunno :dunno

Some of our fans can't let up until they convince the world we really didn't want the guy, he's only 3 ft. 2 in. tall, weighs 96 pounds and runs a 6.2 forty. The fact the guy left is not enough for them to move on, he has to be shown to be unworthy of us.

 

[teachercd]

It's easy to check the facts.

Enunwa committed to us on Oct 26. 2009 He had a visit with Wash State on 10/9 and a visit with us on 10/16. No other offers. OCT. 26 is NOT EARLY. The kid was not highly recruited for whatever reason and not a single offer from a California school.

As a comparison, Keeston Terry, I think we had committed in June, maybe before and we were all thrilled regardless what EZ-E might be saying now. He COMMITTED early but had a nice offer list.

Carter committed to us about the same time or earlier than Enunwa.

for someone so good at research, i'm shocked that you still haven't found a single example to support your claim that the "bo doctrine" is either new or temporary.

It is so temporary I would say it is likely no longer in effect. We'll see as time goes by. This isn't the last time a kid is going to decide to check out another school after an oral committment.

After blowing steam in the tirade the "Bo Doctrine" likely changed to a "flexible" policy quicker than Napalitano went from saying "Everything worked just like it should" to "That ain't the way it's sposed to work, somebody screwed up".

The love for BC is still strong in you, it runs hot in your veins. You have not let it pass out of your body yet, when it does your posts will be read with more love. You were burnt by your support for BC and now how to take it out on Bo because he is not doing things the BC way. Once you can admit that, you will feel better.

Telling kids that you are either all in or dont committ yet is exactly HOW you get the kids you want. Do you really not see how that makes sense? Do you think other schools say "please, give us your verbal but go check out all the other schools you can still"

Nooooooooo, they all say "when you are ready, give us your word but dont do it until you are ready and when you do, we expect you to stick with us"

 

[EZ-E]

Well Recruiter, not all Husker fans agree with EZE. Some of us though hopeful, don't claim that every player we get is underrated and every player that goes somewhere else is overrated or we "cooled" on them. We've had a problem attracting top offensive players this year except for Heard.

We obviously could have used some WRs in this class. You guys it looks like got some good ones and could have had two that we wanted badly. It was apparent that we wanted CC bad and just as apparent that we got tough with him about taking visits and he wasn't having any of it. Too bad, but that stuff happens. I am confident contrary to EZE's claims that we would love to have Sasser and CC over our two star WR.

I am personally good with Enunwa, and he has a 5.7 by Rivals, same as Sasser and,looks good. On the other hand I'm a little concerned that he had only one other offer, from Wash. State so it wasn't like teams were running all over themselves to get his services as EZE makes it sound. Sasser had more offers but Texas did not offer him, though TTech and of course we did as well. The only WR that either one of us got that attracted attention from top programs was Lucas and I sure wish he would have taken a visit to Lincoln. He had offers from Tenn and OU along with many others. Congratulations on keeping him in state. You did really well on the offensive side of the ball this year and any claims that we did better there are just silly. On the other hand you had a lot of work to do on defense. Time will tell if we get the players to improve our offense or if you get those to improve your defense.

As to EZ-E's claims for our 2011 class, we certainly hope to get some of those athletes in Lincoln. But this far out everybody is hopeful of the next class. Let's get this class in the books, hope we fill some needs. There's a whole lot of water to go under the bridge before Feb 2011 class goes in the book. We've bragged about several this year that were already committed that didn't work out. We would probably be better off bragging on the 2011 class being much better than Misery's --after signing date in 2011. But some fans of all teams just can't stand not having the better player every time so we make the recruits either great or over-rated depending on where they go. I think those fans come from Lake Wobegone, where all the children are above average.

Good luck in your bowl Recruter.

I never once said that we wouldnt want both CC and Sasser. CC made his choice to bad mouth our program all over the internet and speak poorly of NU. Sasser was called by Texas right before his visit to NU and it was clear that he really never would have fit in in Lincoln. I never once stated that I wouldnt want to have Sasser over a kid like Tyler Evans.

As to you addressing me individually; I post what I know. We DID cool on Sloan, Hill, and Sasser. Terry had ties to KU which is why he chose to commit elsewhere.

"We have had a problem attracting top offensive players this year," Some people might try to conclude that; but WHEN YOUR RECRUITING CLASS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DEFENSIVE HEAVY FROM THE BEGINNING your recruiting efforts are probably more towards that then attracting "top offensive talent."

Look at our roster and do some criticial thinking and you will realize why we recruited the positions that we did. We will have at least 10 WRs on campus on scholarship next year 8 of which with playing experience That is about all we need. We dont run out of 5-6 WR sets like other schools do.

I believe I stated in another thread that I would have liked to have Carter. MU can have Gabbert. With what I said about Carter was that MU could have had him as well, but they cooled on him after Sasser committed.

 

[EZ-E]

Oh. One more thing about Quincy. Look at the film provided in the link above. That is a 6ft2 210lb frame doing all of that. Schools stopped contacting him after he committed.

Listen to the guys like Sean Callahan and Jeremy Crabtree. Crabtree stated that Enunwa is "the steal of the Big 12."

Like I said, I post facts and I post what I know.

Good day.

 

[schuhbdoo]

Oh. One more thing about Quincy. Look at the film provided in the link above. That is a 6ft2 210lb frame doing all of that. Schools stopped contacting him after he committed.

Listen to the guys like Sean Callahan and Jeremy Crabtree. Crabtree stated that Enunwa is "the steal of the Big 12."

Like I said, I post facts and I post what I know.

Good day.

Off topic a little bit but.....

Enunwa goes to Rancho Verde, same school as Eric Martin. Not sure if that had any effect on his recruitment

at all.

Eric is set to make a big impact going forward at NU.

 

[EZ-E]

Oh. One more thing about Quincy. Look at the film provided in the link above. That is a 6ft2 210lb frame doing all of that. Schools stopped contacting him after he committed.

Listen to the guys like Sean Callahan and Jeremy Crabtree. Crabtree stated that Enunwa is "the steal of the Big 12."

Like I said, I post facts and I post what I know.

Good day.

Off topic a little bit but.....

Enunwa goes to Rancho Verde, same school as Eric Martin. Not sure if that had any effect on his recruitment

at all.

Eric is set to make a big impact going forward at NU.

Their HS coach said that Eric and Quincy have a very good football friendship. Quincy said that Eric was a big reason he committed.

 

[Spooky Tooth]

I am personally good with Enunwa, and he has a 5.7 by Rivals, same as Sasser and,looks good. On the other hand I'm a little concerned that he had only one other offer, from Wash. State so it wasn't like teams were running all over themselves to get his services as EZE makes it sound. We got in on him early, he committed to us early, other teams stopped calling.

Well there again that is just the homerism I mentioned talkiing. It's easy to check the facts.

Enunwa committed to us on Oct 26. 2009 He had a visit with Wash State on 10/9 and a visit with us on 10/16. No other offers. OCT. 26 is NOT EARLY. The kid was not highly recruited for whatever reason and not a single offer from a California school.

 

As a comparison, Keeston Terry, I think we had committed in June, maybe before and we were all thrilled regardless what EZ-E might be saying now. He COMMITTED early but had a nice offer list.

 

Carter committed to us about the same time or earlier than Enunwa. Had many offers including Alabama. So your claim just falls flat about Enunwa's offer list not happening because he committed early. Don't get me wrong, I think he might be a good find, a hidden jewel--but keep in mind that there are few of those out there and it is just as likely that other teams saw something they didn't like. It's just the BS that some of our fans put out that gives us a bad name that I object to.

 

Also to claim that we would rather have a two star kid than either of these four Stars, Carter and Terry or Sasser for that matter is just silly.

 

I will be as happy as anyone looking at this board if our WRs in this class are All Big 12. But from a pure recruiting standpoint on WRs and Qbs, we suck this year.

 

 

This is getting silly. You seem to define ANIT-HOMERISM, whatever that is.

 

It's my position that NU's staff identifies players before many other schools do. Others on this board seem to agree with that. Those same Cali schools you referenced have a lot of other WRs they can look at before having to do the research to find talent that is not getting the early love.

 

RESEARCH: From the LJS-- "I only began playing receiver my sophomore year, because there were too many running backs." http://www.huskerextra.com/articles/2009/1...3c890298977.txt Kinda makes it hard to get the same number of offers as other WR when you've done it for ONE YEAR WHEN THE OTHER WRs HAVE DONE ALL HS. You haven't bagged on QE, but you seem obsessed with his lack of offers. Think the info above splashes that.

 

But just in case you are not convinced, QE has been upgraded recently and now one tenth of a point behind CC in Rivals. And Scout has them both with two stars. QE is bigger, almost as fast and stronger than CC, who gets four starts from Rivals.

 

[Billyball]

I am personally good with Enunwa, and he has a 5.7 by Rivals, same as Sasser and,looks good. On the other hand I'm a little concerned that he had only one other offer, from Wash. State so it wasn't like teams were running all over themselves to get his services as EZE makes it sound. We got in on him early, he committed to us early, other teams stopped calling.

Well there again that is just the homerism I mentioned talkiing. It's easy to check the facts.

Enunwa committed to us on Oct 26. 2009 He had a visit with Wash State on 10/9 and a visit with us on 10/16. No other offers. OCT. 26 is NOT EARLY. The kid was not highly recruited for whatever reason and not a single offer from a California school.

 

As a comparison, Keeston Terry, I think we had committed in June, maybe before and we were all thrilled regardless what EZ-E might be saying now. He COMMITTED early but had a nice offer list.

 

Carter committed to us about the same time or earlier than Enunwa. Had many offers including Alabama. So your claim just falls flat about Enunwa's offer list not happening because he committed early. Don't get me wrong, I think he might be a good find, a hidden jewel--but keep in mind that there are few of those out there and it is just as likely that other teams saw something they didn't like. It's just the BS that some of our fans put out that gives us a bad name that I object to.

 

Also to claim that we would rather have a two star kid than either of these four Stars, Carter and Terry or Sasser for that matter is just silly.

 

I will be as happy as anyone looking at this board if our WRs in this class are All Big 12. But from a pure recruiting standpoint on WRs and Qbs, we suck this year.

 

 

This is getting silly. You seem to define ANIT-HOMERISM, whatever that is.

 

It's my position that NU's staff identifies players before many other schools do. Others on this board seem to agree with that. Those same Cali schools you referenced have a lot of other WRs they can look at before having to do the research to find talent that is not getting the early love.

 

RESEARCH: From the LJS-- "I only began playing receiver my sophomore year, because there were too many running backs." http://www.huskerextra.com/articles/2009/1...3c890298977.txt Kinda makes it hard to get the same number of offers as other WR when you've done it for ONE YEAR WHEN THE OTHER WRs HAVE DONE ALL HS. You haven't bagged on QE, but you seem obsessed with his lack of offers. Think the info above splashes that.

 

But just in case you are not convinced, QE has been upgraded recently and now one tenth of a point behind CC in Rivals. And Scout has them both with two stars. QE is bigger, almost as fast and stronger than CC, who gets four starts from Rivals.

 

Whatever . Anyone can see the silliness I simply pointed out. This very thread had about 12 pages of the same fans fawning all over Carter and many acting like our program could not survive without him. He looked around, Bo put the squeeze on him, Carter said F U. and now we have 3 or 4 pages claiming we never did really want the kid and we "cooled" on him cause he was a shrimp or cut him loose because of the Bo Doctrine and the California kid with 2 offers is vastly superior as is our two star WR recruit as a poster said a few posts back---Some posters on this site are some of the biggest hypocrits in college football. All fan boards are filled with homers but I really have to believe that some of you are tone deaf to your posts about these kids. You are in total adulation of them until they go somewhere else and then you spend all kinds of energy trying to tell people they really are not any good and we "cooled" on them. It's just silly unless you are high school students.

 

We are hoping that Bo can recruit well. We don't know how that is going to work out and won't for another couple years. He's using players he did not recruit. My take is that Bo will become much more "smooth" in dealing with recurits and the media--and both the Pelinis will learn not to yell and pout at the other team at the end of a game when we are deemed the loser. It's a growing process. Bo will figure it out TO will help.

 

Btw Teacherknowitall, I was never a Callahan fan. The screen name is nearly my name and has nothing to do with NU coaches present or past. Hope that helps .

 

[Spooky Tooth]

I am personally good with Enunwa, and he has a 5.7 by Rivals, same as Sasser and,looks good. On the other hand I'm a little concerned that he had only one other offer, from Wash. State so it wasn't like teams were running all over themselves to get his services as EZE makes it sound. We got in on him early, he committed to us early, other teams stopped calling.

Well there again that is just the homerism I mentioned talkiing. It's easy to check the facts.

Enunwa committed to us on Oct 26. 2009 He had a visit with Wash State on 10/9 and a visit with us on 10/16. No other offers. OCT. 26 is NOT EARLY. The kid was not highly recruited for whatever reason and not a single offer from a California school.

 

As a comparison, Keeston Terry, I think we had committed in June, maybe before and we were all thrilled regardless what EZ-E might be saying now. He COMMITTED early but had a nice offer list.

 

Carter committed to us about the same time or earlier than Enunwa. Had many offers including Alabama. So your claim just falls flat about Enunwa's offer list not happening because he committed early. Don't get me wrong, I think he might be a good find, a hidden jewel--but keep in mind that there are few of those out there and it is just as likely that other teams saw something they didn't like. It's just the BS that some of our fans put out that gives us a bad name that I object to.

 

Also to claim that we would rather have a two star kid than either of these four Stars, Carter and Terry or Sasser for that matter is just silly.

 

I will be as happy as anyone looking at this board if our WRs in this class are All Big 12. But from a pure recruiting standpoint on WRs and Qbs, we suck this year.

 

 

This is getting silly. You seem to define ANIT-HOMERISM, whatever that is.

 

It's my position that NU's staff identifies players before many other schools do. Others on this board seem to agree with that. Those same Cali schools you referenced have a lot of other WRs they can look at before having to do the research to find talent that is not getting the early love.

 

RESEARCH: From the LJS-- "I only began playing receiver my sophomore year, because there were too many running backs." http://www.huskerextra.com/articles/2009/1...3c890298977.txt Kinda makes it hard to get the same number of offers as other WR when you've done it for ONE YEAR WHEN THE OTHER WRs HAVE DONE ALL HS. You haven't bagged on QE, but you seem obsessed with his lack of offers. Think the info above splashes that.

 

But just in case you are not convinced, QE has been upgraded recently and now one tenth of a point behind CC in Rivals. And Scout has them both with two stars. QE is bigger, almost as fast and stronger than CC, who gets four starts from Rivals.

 

Whatever . Anyone can see the silliness I simply pointed out. This very thread had about 12 pages of the same fans fawning all over Carter and many acting like our program could not survive without him. He looked around, Bo put the squeeze on him, Carter said F U. and now we have 3 or 4 pages claiming we never did really want the kid and we "cooled" on him cause he was a shrimp or cut him loose because of the Bo Doctrine and the California kid with 2 offers is vastly superior as is our two star WR recruit as a poster said a few posts back---Some posters on this site are some of the biggest hypocrits in college football. All fan boards are filled with homers but I really have to believe that some of you are tone deaf to your posts about these kids. You are in total adulation of them until they go somewhere else and then you spend all kinds of energy trying to tell people they really are not any good and we "cooled" on them. It's just silly unless you are high school students.

 

We are hoping that Bo can recruit well. We don't know how that is going to work out and won't for another couple years. He's using players he did not recruit. My take is that Bo will become much more "smooth" in dealing with recurits and the media--and both the Pelinis will learn not to yell and pout at the other team at the end of a game when we are deemed the loser. It's a growing process. Bo will figure it out TO will help.

 

Btw Teacherknowitall, I was never a Callahan fan. The screen name is nearly my name and has nothing to do with NU coaches present or past. Hope that helps .

 

 

This is my last post on this topic.

 

You wanted to point out homerism by using "research". I used RESEARCH (a quote AND a link) to debunk your point. You respond with more opinion, more anti-homerism and no facts. Not sure what your agenda is, but I really, really don't care.

 

[zoogs]

I think something we can all hopefully agree on: if we could have had these guys, it would have been great. We won't end up with them, but things will be OK.

Curtis Carter could go on and have a Travis Lewis type career. Or he could be like David Ross and still be completely invisible three years from now.

 

[melscott62]

both carter and gabbart decided to go on other visits and decommitted because the offense didn't fit them, nothing tough about that, especially carter. he is not a big wr, slot guy and the prospect of being in a power o and primarily blocking didn't excite him, plus those cold winters for a LA dude. Kid decided to stay close to home like his momma wanted, nothing new there. kids change their minds, happens all the time. nothing to see here just move along. BTW claiming that a 3 star guy is much better than a 4 star burner? could happen but you know that doesn't make you happy, or losing a couple of guys desperately needed to help o go to rival teams? Not a good thing.

all this angst over these individuals is missing the bigger pt, why is NU not able to attract and more important keep great O skill players? last class and this where are the really good wr's? there arn't any, one smallish very quick rb when you want to play power football? Cody couldn't beat out a 3rd string juco guy which was amazing since he had incredible HS video, didn't do much when given an opportunity, tho as a true freshmen not surprising. NU really needed a couple of great qb's to come in and compete for the starting and backup jobs. Puzzling recruiting. loading up on solid d players is nice and neccessary but you have to have a solid O to compete against the south bullies.

as always proof is in performance. lots of potential but you won't know till they have been on campus a few years.

good luck in bowl game. should have success against az, pac teams are in a down cycle right now.

the coaching staff has made it clear that A) that is not the direction of the offense, and B) they are trying to win right now. the made adjustments to win now.... that doesnt mean that they are going to keep the current offense. Bo has said this... so has watson.

 

[EZ-E]

Whatever . Anyone can see the silliness I simply pointed out. This very thread had about 12 pages of the same fans fawning all over Carter and many acting like our program could not survive without him. He looked around, Bo put the squeeze on him, Carter said F U. and now we have 3 or 4 pages claiming we never did really want the kid and we "cooled" on him cause he was a shrimp or cut him loose because of the Bo Doctrine and the California kid with 2 offers is vastly superior as is our two star WR recruit as a poster said a few posts back---Some posters on this site are some of the biggest hypocrits in college football. All fan boards are filled with homers but I really have to believe that some of you are tone deaf to your posts about these kids. You are in total adulation of them until they go somewhere else and then you spend all kinds of energy trying to tell people they really are not any good and we "cooled" on them. It's just silly unless you are high school students.

We are hoping that Bo can recruit well. We don't know how that is going to work out and won't for another couple years. He's using players he did not recruit. My take is that Bo will become much more "smooth" in dealing with recurits and the media--and both the Pelinis will learn not to yell and pout at the other team at the end of a game when we are deemed the loser. It's a growing process. Bo will figure it out TO will help.

Btw Teacherknowitall, I was never a Callahan fan. The screen name is nearly my name and has nothing to do with NU coaches present or past. Hope that helps .

You cant possibly be this stupid. I myself never claimed that we would rather have Evans than Carter or Sasser. I also never said that we cooled on Carter. Why would we have set up an in-home visit with him if we did? That wouldnt be very smart would it. To be honest I didnt really post on Carter's thread until recently. Everyone can see your stupidity. You read one page of this thread and then make all these conclusions that we are the bad guys.

The only things that I have said about Carter was that he measured 5ft8 when he came up on his visit-FACT (I never had too big of an issue with that because the coaches were so high on his game), and that I dont want him after he bad mouthed our program all over some social networking sites on the internet-FACT.

Bo didnt put the squeeze on him. The kid was told from day one what the deal was. When he committed he was asked if he was done taking visits LIKE ALL OTHER KIDS ARE ASKED WHEN THEY COMMIT!!!! Carter replied with "yes."

We did cool on Sasser, Sloan, and Hill. I dont remember if I left any out.

Also about Quincy Enunwa- there was some consideration of making him a 4 star kid. That tells you something. To go from unranked to a 4 star is hardly ever done.

Educate yourself about recruiting as much as I have, read as much into it as I have and then you can call me out.

 

[HuskerBruin]

I wonder what Carter thinks of TCU's offense after watching them get shut down by Boise St. It's hard not to appreciate the irony of Carter's situation. He de-commits from Nebraska and publicly derides their offense, and then narrows his list to Missouri and TCU because of their great offenses. He then commits to TCU. Then comes the bowls and Carter has to sit at home and watch Nebraska's offense explode and Missouri's and TCU's offenses each get embarrassed on national TV. Oops!