Avengers: Doomsday
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Lorewarn
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Pretty huge news. Not a surprising pivot to Dr. Doom after Jonathan Majors blew up their Kang plans. I guess the easy interpretation is that Dr Doom will be a Stark variant that went mad, but idk how I feel about it in general. There's a way it could be great and there's a lot of ways it could be more of the same underwhelming post-endgame convoluted storytelling relying more and more on cameos and nostalgia because nobody cares about the new characters they've been trying to spotlight.
Couldn't care less about the Russos unless they've got Markus and McFeeley on board writing as well.
Madcows
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I thought there was an easy fix, even with Jonathan Majors being an idiot. Just have a new Kang variant from another universe. He doesn't have to look the same/be the same person. They have already set that precedent with Mr. Fantastic as it will be two different actors that look nothing alike. They could have easily continued the Kang storyline with a new actor. Though I'm not mad at this pivot to Dr. Doom with RDJ.
Lorewarn
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I think part of the Kang story necessarily involves dozens or hundreds or thousands of Kang variants, and there's no easy way to explain away none of them looking like the tons we already saw that all looked alike. Plus, outside of Majors' trouble, the fans weren't really responding to Kang in an excited way like they did with the breadcrumbs leading to Thanos.
We're not sure, but there's a decent chance that this version of Doom is actually a variant version of Tony Stark from his universe (there's also comic precedence for Doom actually being Stark).
Madcows
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Doom wears an iron mask due to horrific scarring, and we never see his face, at least not really in comicbook lore. In comics when they do flashbacks, they usually just show the back of his head, or his face is blocked in some fashion.
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Madcows
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Good point, I forgot about the council of Kangs they showed. Was that in Loki S2 or was that in Ant-Man 3? Either way, not a lot of people have seen it, so they could just pretend it never happened. haha
As for the second part, I think they really missed on building him up like they did Thanos. Ant-Man 3 wasn't well received, and Disney+ shows aren't as consumed by enough people (majority only watch the movies) to know about him, if they would have done a better slow build over 4-5 movies, it may have taken hold better. Problem is Phase 4 and 5 have been so scattered it was hard to build a central character and theme like they did for Phases 1-3.