C-19 & an Encouragement Thread

Do you believe America will have a spiritual awakening as a result of this current crisis

  • Yes, it will have a long term positive affect on our spiritual health

    Votes: 2 9.5%
  • No

    Votes: 9 42.9%
  • Yes - For a short time and then we will go back to where we were before the crisis

    Votes: 6 28.6%
  • No - the opposite - people will fall away from faith or live deeper in thier 'non-faith'.

    Votes: 4 19.0%

  • Total voters
    21
Find something productive to do - like planting a garden - can be an encouraging thing.  Promotes life not death.
 

https://apnews.com/5cee4c560af30156a7697fcfe7fdcd29

Dig. Plant. Breathe.

As spring’s arrival in the Northern Hemisphere coincides with government stay-at-home orders, the itch to get outside has turned backyard gardens into a getaway for the mind in chaotic times.

Gardeners who already know that working with soil is a way to connect with nature say it helps take away their worries, at least temporarily.

“I love to see things grow,” Lindsay Waldrop said. “It’s incredibly therapeutic.”

Now more than ever.

Waldrop, a resident of Anaheim, California, has an anxiety disorder. Exercise is supposed to help, but her new job as a college biology professor had prevented her from getting into a routine.

“Sometimes I just like to sit and dig holes in the quiet with my own thoughts,” she said. “Outside, it takes my mind off. It gives something for my hands to do. It gives you a separate problem to think about than whatever else is going on. It gets you off of social media.”

Waldrop and her husband moved last summer from New Mexico, where she didn’t have much luck gardening in a scorching climate. At her new home, she got rid of the lawn, installed an irrigation system, and recently planted dozens of tomatoes, eggplant, peppers and other vegetables.

Over the years, Waldrop converted her skeptical husband, who initially wondered why digging in the dirt and moving things around was considered fun.

After tasting his first home-grown tomatoes, he was converted.

Families, too, are discovering that gardening gives cooped-up kids something to do, builds their self-esteem and brings variety to what has suddenly become a lot of time spent together.

In Miami, Annika Bolanos isn’t a fan of the south Florida heat and mosquitoes. But going outdoors lately has been a lifeline.

Bolanos works at home making cakes and doing bookkeeping with her husband’s golf cart business. Her three young children add an extra layer of busy, and together they’ve seeded a variety of vegetables and herbs.

“We have always loved the idea of growing our own food,” Bolanos said. “It feels good to eat something that you grew yourself too. It also helps my kids eat more fruits and veggies since they find it cool to eat what they have grown.”

 
But you just said heaven has no evil.


Is that what I said?  

So did God allow evil one time to create his adversary or do we always have the ability and choice and temptation of choosing evil, even when we're in heaven?  


I don't know.  I'll let you know if and when I get there.  That is, unless there's a great chasm between us.  

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You said:  "Earth would have been like heaven.  No death, no disease, no crime, no evil.  "


Okay, I see what you mean now. 

I don't think there was sin or evil in the world before Adam and Eve chose to introduce sin in the world through the serpent's influence.   I say "I don't think so" because the bible doesn't expressly say there was no sin or evil.  Instead, it says, "God saw all that he had made, and it was very good."  This is probably a good assumption.  But you asked about heaven, not earth. 

I guess I've always just assumed there is no sin or evil in heaven.   I think this too is a pretty good assumption on my part.  I don't think God tolerates sin.  But I'm not sure the bible expressly tells us that there is no sin or evil in heaven.         

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This path you've taken us down is off topic, and your annoying style of posting is getting under my skin, so I'm not going to go down this rabbit hole any further.  Go ahead and have the last word.  

 
I changed the title of the thread to the encouragement thread to avoid the endless debates about religion.

So I was wondering, how are some of you being creative to encourage and to be encouraged? How are you spending time with family while being apart?

For us, we have one son and his family here in Tulsa and another son and his family in NC.  So skype has taken on new importance. Never figured we'd need it much with our local son and family.

So we miss holding our 2 year old grand daughter here in town (Ok we miss our son and his wife too). My wife was babysitting her one day a week previously.   So we are trying to find creative ways to interact with the 2 year old.  This is our hide and seek game:

So we skype our son, wife and grand daughter. We decided to

play skype hide and seek with her:

Our son held his phone while she went to ‘hide’.  In the middle of

the yard was this chair – with feet and legs hanging way beyond the

chair. We pretended not to ‘see’ her as our son walked by. We just

laughed our heads off seeing that.   We eventually made it back to

that chair as son walked around the yard and us yelling "where are you'  and  surprised her

when we ‘found’ her.

For the older (5 and 10) grandkids in NC we play card games over skype - they have the


same deck and we see what they lay down and visa versa. 

 
That's awesome TGH...

We wave and talk to our 18 month old granddaughter through the picture window...we social distance in the driveway with the 3 older ones

 
As an agnostic I've always felt closest to whatever I call God in nature.

We are having a beautiful spring here, and it's kinda profound. There are still cars on the road, but fewer of them. There are actually more people out on residential sidewalks than ever: whole families forced to stay at home together are out walking the dogs. And the dogs couldn't be happier. Boredom has spurred some really funny and creative online sharing. We've been playing games with our kids again. The biggest surge of activities in our community has been gardening and baking.  Toilet paper is plentiful, but there's been a run on yeast and flour.  

Without the sound of the cars, you hear more birds. The businesses that are open -- a surprising number of them -- are putting out We Are Open signs and finding creative ways to stay in business. People are going out of their way to support them. I live in nice town in a wealthy county. I know we are lucky. But in a strange way, this Shelter-In-Place world is more peaceful, appreciative, and supportive than the life we were sleepwalking through. 

It's also laid bare the social inequity in the country. I don't harbor illusions of solving it, but I like addressing the greed and privilege that typically hides behind Business as Usual.

In other words, I want to get back to normal, but I don't want the same normal at all. This is extremely spiritual to me, and doesn't fall neatly into the Faithless vs the Faithful categories.  

 
As an agnostic I've always felt closest to whatever I call God in nature.

We are having a beautiful spring here, and it's kinda profound. There are still cars on the road, but fewer of them. There are actually more people out on residential sidewalks than ever: whole families forced to stay at home together are out walking the dogs. And the dogs couldn't be happier. Boredom has spurred some really funny and creative online sharing. We've been playing games with our kids again. The biggest surge of activities in our community has been gardening and baking.  Toilet paper is plentiful, but there's been a run on yeast and flour.  

Without the sound of the cars, you hear more birds. The businesses that are open -- a surprising number of them -- are putting out We Are Open signs and finding creative ways to stay in business. People are going out of their way to support them. I live in nice town in a wealthy county. I know we are lucky. But in a strange way, this Shelter-In-Place world is more peaceful, appreciative, and supportive than the life we were sleepwalking through. 

It's also laid bare the social inequity in the country. I don't harbor illusions of solving it, but I like addressing the greed and privilege that typically hides behind Business as Usual.

In other words, I want to get back to normal, but I don't want the same normal at all. This is extremely spiritual to me, and doesn't fall neatly into the Faithless vs the Faithful categories.  
Great post.  I too feel close to God in nature - I think it testifies of God.  Bing alone on top of Mt Evans (higher than Pike's Peak)  in Colo one morning was a very special moment for me some years ago.   There have been some interesting stories about how the 'earth' has been given a rest.  People in India can see the Himalayan mts for the first time in decades, those who study earth quakes an hear (record)  more faint earthquakes they weren't able to hear previously due to all of the human chatter.  Animals coming out of hiding all over the place.  It is kind of like a Biblical Year of Jubilee for nature.  It will be interesting to see if it has an affect on climate warming.

I agree with you - hopefully we'll have a new normal. 

For me, it following the Biblical admonishment "To Be Still and Know that I am God".  Stop the anxious running around. Rest and Trust. Find inner spiritual strength, build and rebuild relationships. Now is the time when so much of the external 'stuff'  that we over hype can be put aside for the more important things. 

 
While I'm feeling more spiritual and closer to God than ever, another part of my brain realizes the Earth probably needs a few billion less humans in order to survive. Viral pandemics and mass starvations have handled this in past epochs, presumably by God's design. 

Maybe I shouldn't put that in The Encouragement Thread. 

 
While I'm feeling more spiritual and closer to God than ever, another part of my brain realizes the Earth probably needs a few billion less humans in order to survive. Viral pandemics and mass starvations have handled this in past epochs, presumably by God's design. 

Maybe I shouldn't put that in The Encouragement Thread. 
I really feel encourage now :o :ahhhhhhhh

 
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