Cases of Election Fraud

knapplc said:
You guys are going to believe this...
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I Believe, I believe, I believe (what movie??)

From the article:

Florida voter-registration applicants are warned on registration forms that they may be subject to fines and even prison time if they do not provide truthful information.
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There has been at least one recent instance in Florida in which a public official faced legal consequences for registering to vote at an address that was not her legal residence. Last year, the city manager of Deltona, Fl., entered into an agreement with the local state’s attorney’s office to pay more than $5,000 in fees and reimbursements for the state’s investigation to avoid being prosecuted on criminal charges in a voter-registration case. She had registered to vote using the address of Deltona’s City Hall, rather than her home address, and had cast ballots in elections using that registration.
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I think this can fit here...

https://mobile.twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1287839671045611520?s=12

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING -- Guess what I found? I found a clip of Trump and his good friend Billy Bush from 2004.<br><br>This is Trump **TRYING** to vote in the Presidential election.<br><br>Watch it carefully. I've never seen this before. <br><br>And wait for the end. <a href="https://t.co/7sh3SL6nLd">pic.twitter.com/7sh3SL6nLd</a></p>— Don Winslow (@donwinslow) <a href="https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1287839671045611520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
 

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING -- Guess what I found? I found a clip of Trump and his good friend Billy Bush from 2004.<br><br>This is Trump **TRYING** to vote in the Presidential election.<br><br>Watch it carefully. I've never seen this before. <br><br>And wait for the end. <a href="https://t.co/7sh3SL6nLd">pic.twitter.com/7sh3SL6nLd</a></p>— Don Winslow (@donwinslow) <a href="https://twitter.com/donwinslow/status/1287839671045611520?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

 
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SUPER WEIRD that this thread, which was created because Republicans accused the American electoral system of being full of fraud, is instead full of examples of Republicans committing election fraud.

Who could have seen that coming? Anyone? Anyone? Anyone?

Bueller?

Oh, wait - the 66% of Americans who aren't Republicans could have? Is that what you're saying?

:rolleyes:

Anyway. Here we are, four years and two major elections later, and there's still statistically none examples of the fraud Republicans told you was out there.

If, after all this time, those Republican sources are still so wrong...

...why are you still listening to them?


 
Redux said:


https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/12/13/cisa-issues-emergency-directive-mitigate-compromise-solarwinds-orion-network

Dominion had it on their login page, gone now.

https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web Client/Mobile/MLogin.htm

Interesting regardless of what you think about the election results
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We should NEVER completely trust machines/computers/software for the election results. Every election should have a paper ballot and strict controls on how those are handled, so that we can do accurate recounts independent of the computers. (Which is what a lot of elections do, but we really need to get all of our elections to have verifiable and recountable results.)

 
Redux said:


https://www.cisa.gov/news/2020/12/13/cisa-issues-emergency-directive-mitigate-compromise-solarwinds-orion-network

Dominion had it on their login page, gone now.

https://dvsfileshare.dominionvoting.com/Web Client/Mobile/MLogin.htm

Interesting regardless of what you think about the election results
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Problems with how we do votes have been known for at least a couple decades now, but it's not the Republicans who want to fund election security. That is just another thing that makes this sudden obsession obnoxious. We need to have one system for all states, and it needs to have a paper trail (which Republicans have voted against in some states).

 
Moiraine said:
Problems with how we do votes have been known for at least a couple decades now, but it's not the Republicans who want to fund election security. That is just another thing that makes this sudden obsession obnoxious. We need to have one system for all states, and it needs to have a paper trail (which Republicans have voted against in some states).
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Their stubbornness isn't the issue though, it's the transparency.

RedDenver said:
We should NEVER completely trust machines/computers/software for the election results. Every election should have a paper ballot and strict controls on how those are handled, so that we can do accurate recounts independent of the computers. (Which is what a lot of elections do, but we really need to get all of our elections to have verifiable and recountable results.)
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Agreed, machines can be manipulated and or fail.

 
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RedDenver said:
Not sure I follow. Who's stubbornness and which transparency issue?
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Their shouldn't be a reason for anyone to doubt the result of our elections.  If they come into question, it shouldn't be this hard to verify the results.  But it is because then the loser can cry foul and the winner can label conspiracy.  It's another manipulation tool.

I'm a fan of individual states being able to set their own processes, but that failed massively this time around.

 
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