Dana Holgorsen Hired as Offensive Coordinator

Toe said:
Saw a post from someone who said that over their respective OC/HC careers, Holgorsen has averaged 10 PPG more than Satterfield.

If you could add 10 PPG to our scores from last year, we would've been 10-2, and this year we'd be at 8-1. Because math.
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An interesting deep-dive stat - how many times were we up one score and held the opposing team from scoring?  I say that remembering the lone lead at OSU, their offense was terrible, and the moment they got down they walked through our D like we were on a bye week.

I think we probably beat Illinois with 10 more points as their momentum got going very late.  For OSU it seemed like every time they opened up the playbook they had their way.  That was a strange game.

 
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DefenderAO said:
An interesting deep-dive stat - how many times were we up one score and held the opposing team from scoring?  I say that remembering the lone lead at OSU, their offense was terrible, and the moment they got down they walked through our D like we were on a bye week.

I think we probably beat Illinois with 10 more points as their momentum got going very late.  For OSU it seemed like every time they opened up the playbook they had their way.  That was a strange game.
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I really believe if the offense does ANYTHING the D is going to get better.  I'm not talking about Sedona Vortex energy, but just the confidence that would be instilled in the entire team knowing we have a chance instead of "3 and out".  We are also losing field position like no one's business.  Just getting a couple first downs can change the game.

 
gobiggergoredder said:
I really believe if the offense does ANYTHING the D is going to get better.  I'm not talking about Sedona Vortex energy, but just the confidence that would be instilled in the entire team knowing we have a chance instead of "3 and out".  We are also losing field position like no one's business.  Just getting a couple first downs can change the game.
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Agreed; Colorado was probably our best example of both sides feeling off one another, at least the first half.

Also interesting (there's a lot I'm interested in) - Rhule said he expected the Colorado game to go that way.  I'm curious where the personnel and planning deficiencies have crept in to not have the same confidence against B!G teams.

 
DefenderAO said:
An interesting deep-dive stat - how many times were we up one score and held the opposing team from scoring?  I say that remembering the lone lead at OSU, their offense was terrible, and the moment they got down they walked through our D like we were on a bye week.

I think we probably beat Illinois with 10 more points as their momentum got going very late.  For OSU it seemed like every time they opened up the playbook they had their way.  That was a strange game.
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It was a bad time to break, but it's not like they weren't trying before and just tried for that drive.  They had to convert a fourth down, on that drive, I wouldn't call it "walking through" our defense. That's a really good offense, and in the second half we had held them to three 3 and outs and an INT which probably just wasn't sustainable. 

To your question, do you want to count early game stops when we just went up a score? 

UTEP - made them go 3 and out after each of our first 2 TDs. We did give up a TD in between those, but then also got a safety on their next drive.

Colorado - 4 and out (is that  a thing?) on their drive after our first TD after a long kick return put our backs really against the wall, then a pick-six on their next drive after that. Then another 3 and out.

UNI - Allowed a 16 play field goal drive after going up 7-0, forced a punt after going up 14-3

Illinois - Allowed a field goal after we took a 10-7 lead. Forced a 3 and out out of halftime leading 17-10. Gave up a TD drive after going up 24-17.

Purdue - Forced a 3 and out after going up 7-3.

Rutgers - Forced a punt after going up 7-0. Actually stopped them on 4th and 3, but a very late false start call moved them back and they punted instead.

Indiana - Never had a lead to protect

Ohio State - As you pointed out, allowed a TD drive to relinquish the lead right after taking it.

UCLA - No leads to protect.

Other noteworthy moments that don't fit the criteria, but I think fit the vibe:

UTEP - After having a really bad 3 plays to allow them to tie it at 7, UTEP went 3 and out, safety, 3 and out, INT.

Illinois - We threw an INT after letting Illinois tie it at 10, and the defense made a 4th down stop. After Illinois tied it at 24, the offense had a -13 yard  3 and out so you'd worry the momentum was gone. Instead, the defense forced Illinois into a 3 and out as well. Then after the offense bungled what should have been a go ahead drive, the defense stopped Illinois again to force OT.

Ohio State - After giving up the lead, the defense did get the ball back for the offense with 3:36 to play. Even with the big plays allowed, this has been OSUs worst offensive game by a decent margin. Penn State gave up fewer yards per play and only 20 points, but gave up a lot more 3 downs and total yardage/control of the game.

UCLA - After letting up the long TD to go down 27-7, UCLA only ran 13 plays (minus the kneeldown) for 44 yards, allowing the offense to claw back in.

Sorry for the essay, but I just don't think the defense consistently fails at the worst time. At that may not have been exactly your point. But the only times I see where the defense gave the lead back right away were OSU and Illinois (let it get back to 10-10), and in both those cases they also got a stop right after to give the offense another chance. The defense is failing some fans eye tests not because it's been bad, but because the team isn't winning the games. And that's 95% on the offense, IMO.

 
I just want to see the offense play with (a mix of) more energy and urgency.  Like attacking with some up-tempo stuff at times.  And playing fired up on offense.  Would love to see them enjoy making plays.  And making plays is on the players, and it's been missing.  With the exception of Barney and a couple nice plays by several players each game (Fidone, Neyor, RJ, EJ, DD, Lloyd, DRaiola). 

Just be more consistent, play with more energy, make plays and score more points.  Keep attacking when playing out in front and ahead.  

 
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admo said:
I just want to see the offense play with (a mix of) more energy and urgency.  Like attacking with some up-tempo stuff at times.  And playing fired up on offense.  Would love to see them enjoy making plays.  And making plays is on the players, and it's been missing.  With the exception of Barney and a couple nice plays by several players each game (Fidone, Neyor, RJ, EJ, DD, Lloyd, DRaiola). 

Just be more consistent, play with more energy, make plays and score more points.  Keep attacking when playing out in front and ahead.  
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I see a complete lack of urgency by the offense.  Just "going through the motions".  I think this also shows in our lack of 2nd half protection.  The whole "protect the lead", "teach them to win", was complete BS.  And we are seeing the results now.  Dana as the "new" OC.  Sat was incapable of adjusting to the DC's....There's no "juice" on the O.

I think Dana has the experience to look at what we have and go with that.  I truly think we see a different DR this weekend.  I think he throws with authority and will grip and rip.  Take what's there and not what you want.  Hope to see some more quick mid range passes ie slants/quick outs etc...Please no screens.

 
lo country said:
I see a complete lack of urgency by the offense.  Just "going through the motions".  I think this also shows in our lack of 2nd half protection.  The whole "protect the lead", "teach them to win", was complete BS.  And we are seeing the results now.  Dana as the "new" OC.  Sat was incapable of adjusting to the DC's....There's no "juice" on the O.

I think Dana has the experience to look at what we have and go with that.  I truly think we see a different DR this weekend.  I think he throws with authority and will grip and rip.  Take what's there and not what you want.  Hope to see some more quick mid range passes ie slants/quick outs etc...Please no screens.
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BTW: I guess Rhule didn’t listen to our advice about hiring Korn. We’ll have to admire his work from afar. However I think Dana is a huge upgrade. Saturday should be interesting. 

 
He’s coming in at a great time with the bar set so low. I mean he literally has to win one game- and let’s not lie- he’ll get the credit if the offense can manage 1 win. I think he will also get the rath 

 
lo country said:
I see a complete lack of urgency by the offense.  Just "going through the motions".  I think this also shows in our lack of 2nd half protection.  The whole "protect the lead", "teach them to win", was complete BS.  And we are seeing the results now.  Dana as the "new" OC.  Sat was incapable of adjusting to the DC's....There's no "juice" on the O.

I think Dana has the experience to look at what we have and go with that.  I truly think we see a different DR this weekend.  I think he throws with authority and will grip and rip.  Take what's there and not what you want.  Hope to see some more quick mid range passes ie slants/quick outs etc...Please no screens.
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All Dana Cares about is Scoring points.  Hes going to try to hang 50 every week,  Unlike Rhule nice guy Satt.  

 
huskerfan74 said:
Really glad Rhule did this. However, based on stats shared by Mavric above, I do not see an offensive juggernaut in Dana but Satt was becoming complacent. At least we now know that Rhule is willing to replace coaches who are not performing. My only question is why keep Foley. I can argue that Foley is 10 times more incompetent than Satt. Our ST have been abysmal to say the least. They cost us way more games than offense. 
 

let us see how all this translates on the field this Saturday.
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Thing is, with our defense, we don't really need the offense to be putting up 40-50 points per game. I mean if they do, fantastic. But even some improvement would mean we're at, what, 6-2 perhaps even 7-1 this season?

Agree on Foley. Absurd the man isn't in prison for the fraud he has committed in holding himself out to be a special teams coach.

 
krc1995 said:
He’s coming in at a great time with the bar set so low. I mean he literally has to win one game- and let’s not lie- he’ll get the credit if the offense can manage 1 win. I think he will also get the rath 
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I don't think he should get much credit of any kind (win or lose) if we can't put up more than about 21 points in any of these next 3 games, because that's what Satterfield was doing.

We need to be able to average roughly 1 touchdown per quarter and be able to hit the 27 - 28 point mark. Less than that and I think we're underperforming (even factoring in the defenses we're playing in these last 3 games).

One underrated problem we've had is being down and then not being able to take field goals on 4th downs in the red zone because we have so many points to claw back. We've got to stop crashing out on our first couple of series and stay with our opponent.

 
presidentjlh said:
Thing is, with our defense, we don't really need the offense to be putting up 40-50 points per game. I mean if they do, fantastic. But even some improvement would mean we're at, what, 6-2 perhaps even 7-1 this season?

Agree on Foley. Absurd the man isn't in prison for the fraud he has committed in holding himself out to be a special teams coach.
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10 more points per game and we are 8-1 this year....Last year we'd be 10-2.....

 
Undone said:
I don't think he should get much credit of any kind (win or lose) if we can't put up more than about 21 points in any of these next 3 games, because that's what Satterfield was doing.

We need to be able to average roughly 1 touchdown per quarter and be able to hit the 27 - 28 point mark. Less than that and I think we're underperforming (even factoring in the defenses we're playing in these last 3 games).

One underrated problem we've had is being down and then not being able to take field goals on 4th downs in the red zone because we have so many points to claw back. We've got to stop crashing out on our first couple of series and stay with our opponent.
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It’s like a clown show in the ways in which we lose.  He’ll get the credit if we score more than 30 and Satt will get the wrath if we don’t.  
 

The problem -from my amateur view- is an overly broad offensive plan that changes every week, a freshman QB that is being hung out to dry (but staff might have overestimated how he would react to college ball defenses), and the lack of talent in the running back room.  

 
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