DOJ Initial Russia Hearings

MNBigRedNorth said:
Electronic voting is so ripe and primed to voter fraud leaving absolutely no paper trail of verification.  Electronic machines can be manipulated to change votes based on how big or small the area the screen is when pushing said area to make that selection.  High security on ballots is much more important and also voter ID requirement so no non citizens are voting in federal or state elections.  And who is running DARPA?  The CIA?  If so I would place absolutely no trust at all in that system!
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It's fascinating how the Right will defend the police against any and all comers, but suddenly the FBI and CIA are bought and sold stooges of the Left. 

 
MNBigRedNorth said:
Electronic voting is so ripe and primed to voter fraud leaving absolutely no paper trail of verification.  Electronic machines can be manipulated to change votes based on how big or small the area the screen is when pushing said area to make that selection.  High security on ballots is much more important and also voter ID requirement so no non citizens are voting in federal or state elections.  And who is running DARPA?  The CIA?  If so I would place absolutely no trust at all in that system!
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Who runs DARPA? The Deep State, of course!

But seriously, voting technology has come a long, long way in the last few years. Per the article...

"The system will be fully open source and designed with newly developed secure hardware to make the system not only impervious to certain kinds of hacking, but also allow voters to verify that their votes were recorded accurately."

"The first will be a ballot-marking device that uses a touch-screen for voters to make their selections. That system won’t tabulate votes. Instead it will print out a paper ballot marked with the voter’s choices, so voters can review them before depositing them into an optical-scan machine that tabulates the votes."

Sounds like a pretty solid paper trail to me.

 
commando said:
:facepalm:

trump was told by the FBI     when he won the nomination to watch out for russian agents trying to infiltrate his campaign.  the FBI meets with everyone who wins their party nominations and gives them details on what to watch out for and to contact the FBI if they suspect they are contacted by foriegn agents.    you are spouting right wing propaganda
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Thanks_Tom RR said:
There is a lot to unpack in this post, but most I do not care to quarrel over. To be honest, what can the American public actually believe from politicians (including Trump) and partisan media (e.g., Fox and MSNBC)? One thing that seems consist and something you are acknowledging as well is that the Trump campaign team took a meeting with a foreign asset in hopes to gain damaging information from a political adversary. That is unethical, illegal, and treasonous.
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Hey remember when Adam Schiff took a call from foreigners promising dirt on Trump?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/06/russian_comedians_prank_call_rep_adam_schiff_promise_him_naked_photos_of_trump_from_fsb.html

Or when Hilary bought the dossier from a British subject?

Actually it's perfectly fine for a private campaign to get opposition research on their opponent.  Not fine is when the government law enforcement uses it to take sides in an election and take down the elected President.  We NEED a full transparent investigation of all the government people in cahoots with Hilary and the deep state.

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
government law enforcement uses it to take sides in an election and take down the elected President.  We NEED a full transparent investigation of all the government people in cahoots with Hilary and the deep state.
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Where did this secretive deep state shadow government that answers to Hillary come from? Are they all holdovers from the Clinton Administration?

Where were these deep state people when Hillary lost to Obama in 2008? Or were there more of them in 2016?

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
Hey remember when Adam Schiff took a call from foreigners promising dirt on Trump?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/06/russian_comedians_prank_call_rep_adam_schiff_promise_him_naked_photos_of_trump_from_fsb.html

Or when Hilary bought the dossier from a British subject?

Actually it's perfectly fine for a private campaign to get opposition research on their opponent.  Not fine is when the government law enforcement uses it to take sides in an election and take down the elected President.  We NEED a full transparent investigation of all the government people in cahoots with Hilary and the deep state.
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Your presumption of innocence sure took a sharp turn.

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
Hey remember when Adam Schiff took a call from foreigners promising dirt on Trump?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/06/russian_comedians_prank_call_rep_adam_schiff_promise_him_naked_photos_of_trump_from_fsb.html

Or when Hilary bought the dossier from a British subject?

Actually it's perfectly fine for a private campaign to get opposition research on their opponent.  Not fine is when the government law enforcement uses it to take sides in an election and take down the elected President.  We NEED a full transparent investigation of all the government people in cahoots with Hilary and the deep state.
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from your link.

where a spokesman for Schiff said: "Before agreeing to take the call, and immediately following it, the committee informed appropriate law-enforcement and security personnel of the conversation, and of our belief that it was probably bogus." 
 

"Obviously we would welcome the chance to get copies of those recordings," Schiff tells them. "So we will try to work with the FBI to try to figure out how we can take copies of those... I'll be in touch with the FBI about this, and we'll make arrangements with your staff. I think it would be best to provide these materials to both our committee and the FBI. We'll make arrangements between my staff and yours on how to facilitate that."

getting the call is 1 thing...reporting it to the intelligence agencies is what he is suppose to do with them.   

 
knapplc said:
Where did this secretive deep state shadow government that answers to Hillary come from? Are they all holdovers from the Clinton Administration?

Where were these deep state people when Hillary lost to Obama in 2008? Or were there more of them in 2016?
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That’s what confuses me. Why is the deep state so bad at what they do?

 
Notre Dame Joe said:
Hey remember when Adam Schiff took a call from foreigners promising dirt on Trump?

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2018/02/06/russian_comedians_prank_call_rep_adam_schiff_promise_him_naked_photos_of_trump_from_fsb.html

Or when Hilary bought the dossier from a British subject?

Actually it's perfectly fine for a private campaign to get opposition research on their opponent.  Not fine is when the government law enforcement uses it to take sides in an election and take down the elected President.  We NEED a full transparent investigation of all the government people in cahoots with Hilary and the deep state.
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Your British subject is founder of a pay for hire Intelligence firm, who's original research into Trump was funded by GOP members. He was formally an MI6 agent of one of our closest allies. He exposed corruption in FIFA and Russian rigging of the 2018 world cup bid. He exposed Russian interference in the UK, Turkey, France, Italy, and Gemrany. And last but not least he has been a credible source for US intelligence agencies for years.

He was not a lawyer with ties to Oligarchs charged with money laundering in the US, from a nation that is interfering with our elections and opposes us on the world stage, and who themself have been charged with Obstruction of Justice in the US. 

These things are not the same.

 
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