Duval's S&C - Year 2

zeWilbur said:
No worries.  :cheers

I think this is just a miscommunication as I never mentioned where the bar sits over your feet. Or certainly didn't intend to imply a change there at least. At no point am I suggesting people squat on the balls of their feet. Just used an example that if you are pushing something forward (not squatting) look at what your body is physically doing to determine the muscle groups involved in doing it. Firing out of a 3-point stance is more horizontal effort where you stay on the balls of your feet going forward. So you do that by activating your quads and driving forward. That is a front chain heavy effort. Front squatting uses more front chain than back squatting. A side effect of engaging your quads is that you also engage your shins and more stabilizers in the foot. That changes the feel of a front squat to a front/mid-foot feeling vs heel feeling. Though too far towards the front of the foot means you are falling forward and life is about to go very badly! Fun exercise, if your kinesthetic awareness is decent, is to flex your butt and see where you feel it in your feet. Then do the same with your quads. That's where if get the front/mid vs rear comparison. Maybe just using 'mid' instead of 'front/mid' would be less confusing.

Also, I have seen video of the team doing incline press and some overhead with dumbbells so they are doing something functional in the regard. 
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Thanks for the confirmation on overhead press. And I think I did misinterpret you on the squatting position, sorry about that. Your write-up makes complete sense.

To put it another way, doing both back squat and front squat is important for explosive, athletic strength-related lower body power in certain sports in the same way that doing BOTH bench press and overhead press is important for explosive, athletic strenght-related upper body power in certain sports.

On a slightly related note, I always think it's hilarious when you see a dude with massive front delts from all of the excessive benching he's done but then has underdeveloped rear delts. It's the classic "mirror muscle" gym routine.

 
Undone said:
On a slightly related note, I always think it's hilarious when you see a dude with massive front delts from all of the excessive benching he's done but then has underdeveloped rear delts. It's the classic "mirror muscle" gym routine.
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I think Rippetoe has said that he did too much benching and not enough overhead presses creating an imbalance which eventually caught up with him.

 
Hope Duval is getting them some DECA and GH for that. Jesus that’s gotta put a lot of pressure on your joints. Strong as hell to hit that to depth!

 
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