Education

JJ Husker said:
Here’s an idea that might help start straightening things out. Howabout employers can’t require a college degree for jobs that pay less than $80-$100k.
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I like this in theory a lot but there's no way it could work. There are too many jobs that employers need to have some kind of shortcut towards understanding competency (which is what a degree is) that couldn't possibly pay that amount of money.

Like, it's important for a school to know that a 2nd grade teacher knows how to do their job correctly. But it'd be insane for most 2nd grade teachers to make eighty grand.

 
Landlord said:
I like this in theory a lot but there's no way it could work. There are too many jobs that employers need to have some kind of shortcut towards understanding competency (which is what a degree is) that couldn't possibly pay that amount of money.

Like, it's important for a school to know that a 2nd grade teacher knows how to do their job correctly. But it'd be insane for most 2nd grade teachers to make eighty grand.
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Well I did say there were some obvious exceptions, I'm sure many more than I considered. But I do know there are way too many jobs requiring a college degree that really don't need them. Maybe it's a situation where we evaluate every conceivable job, set a realistic minimum pay rate, required education level and then act accordingly.

All I know is my daughter's out of state cost at UNL is currently about $46K per year. That shouldn't be required for the vast majority of jobs. I'm just glad she began as basically a sophomore due to AP credits. Hope she's out of there with her degree in 3 years.

 
I have a feeling that the education requirements for some positions may not be legally defensible. I don't know how you could guarantee that a degree is a bona fide occupational qualification (ie something absolutely necessary to do the job).

 
I would like to see the numbers.  What exactly are these teachers making along with package of benefits compared to cost of living?

 
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BigRedBuster said:
I would like to see the numbers.  What exactly are these teachers making along with package of benefits compared to cost of living?
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I know Colorado is at the bottom of teachers salaries in the US when adjusted for cost of living. A lot of teachers in CO (especially in Denver) have second jobs just to pay their monthly bills.

 
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The crux of the issue appears to be that the district wants to keep using a bonus payout system, but the teachers want to reduce the bonuses in favor of increasing base pay. The bonus system is supposed to help attract and retain better teachers especially for high-poverty schools, but the teachers say that doesn't actually work. The teachers don't like the bonus system because their salaries fluctuating year to year makes it hard to plan their finances.

As far as total money, the teachers want $28.5 million while the district is offering $23.3 million.

Here's a high level summary:

https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/429341-denver-teachers-set-to-strike-on-monday

 
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