Eichorst: Building Football Program is "a Process"

I've been over the moon proud to call myself a NU fan lately. I'm really encouraged by the message and the way they're doing things. I hope like heck they do great things in their time here -- if it happens, it wouldn't have been able to happen to nicer, more Nebraska-worthy people.

 
Shewwwwww..........glad I can stop.
Click to expand...
Some are sorry you even started.

Before you launch into another set of bizarre posts, I would like to remind you to always read and follow label directions and if your freak lasts more than four hours, consult your doctor.
default_wacko.png


 
If a majority of Husker fans NOW realize that Bo had to go, then Shawn Eichorst was a man ahead of his time.

Bada-bing, bada-boom.
Click to expand...
A false dichotomy. In all probability, it wasn't Eichorst's call. Bo made it clear he wanted out, and Harvey gave Eichorst the word to show him the door. He was the go between for something independently agreed upon by the two warring sides.

I wish Eichorst would have been enough of "a man ahead of his time" to forgo the raise and contract extension of the man he was to soon fire, but no use crying over spilled cash.

Anyhow, I can't think of a more interesting season coming up than Nebraska in 2016 with the possible exception of waiting to see who shot J.R. Ewing.

 
Guy Chamberlin said:
cm husker said:
Landlord of Memorial Stadium said:
cm husker said:
Except Eichorst, when he had a coach that was 18-7 under his watch, couldn't be found in support of his coach and staff.
Click to expand...

Bull. Eichorst has always been publicly complimentary and supportive of his coaches, after the seasons are over.

If Eichorst had an agenda to fire Pelini, he would have done it after Bo dared him too after Iowa 2013.
Click to expand...
A. No Bo didn't dare him. That's a gross mischaracterization of Bo's exchange with that reporter. Bo said "the speculation had been a distraction, that he did not apologize for anything his team or coaches had done because he was proud of their performance, and said if they want to fire him, that wouldn't change how and why he felt proud of his guys." Go back and watch the PC. The "dared to fire him" was an invented narrative designed as click bait.

B. Eichorst wanted to fire him in '13. Hell, he was hired for that purpose. but TO and some regents got directly intervened to delay that.

C. Eichorst was only here for one post season with Bo and his letter (not interview) in support of Bo was about as bland and lawyerly as it gets.

The guy is two faced. You can agree with and support his decisions but you should acknowledge that basic fact. He changed his policy about in season support when it benefited him. He either lied in his PC about why Bo was fired or he's lying now.

The man is a liar.
Click to expand...
So where exactly is the lie?
Click to expand...
There is no lie. Eichorst and Perlman are mostly disliked because they're lawyers. Plus Eichorst is a redhead.

 
Bowfin said:
If a majority of Husker fans NOW realize that Bo had to go, then Shawn Eichorst was a man ahead of his time.

Bada-bing, bada-boom.
Click to expand...
A false dichotomy. In all probability, it wasn't Eichorst's call. Bo made it clear he wanted out, and Harvey gave Eichorst the word to show him the door. He was the go between for something independently agreed upon by the two warring sides.

I wish Eichorst would have been enough of "a man ahead of his time" to forgo the raise and contract extension of the man he was to soon fire, but no use crying over spilled cash.

Anyhow, I can't think of a more interesting season coming up than Nebraska in 2016 with the possible exception of waiting to see who shot J.R. Ewing.
Click to expand...
It was J. R.'s Bodyguard/PI because J.R. knew he was dying, and written in the script because Larry Hagman wasn't doing too hot and they all knew they were on borrowed time with the series anyway.

As for Eichorst, the problem people have with him is that he's, at best, untrustworthy because of his deeds and comments, and doesn't seem to represent the best interests of the program or the fans who love said program.

We have an Eichorst statement saying we had talent on hand to win the B1G in 2014, only for 2015 to be subtly referred to as a rebuilding year when things were headed down the crapper. We have Eichorst saying we have the resources to get anyone in the nation we wanted for a coach...only to settle for a career .500 coach from Oregon State that was on no one's radar (save for Eichorst, as we found out later was hot to hire him years ago when Eichorst was out east).

The whole debacle with Bo was just poorly handled by both parties and was a mess that could have been handled better and, in hindsight, with more transparency. And let's not forget that Riley was the only coaching candidate that was interviewed, which really doesn't seem to help bolster the integrity of a coaching search that is already questionable to begin with.

In short, yes, fans have problems with Eichorst, and a lot of those problems have been brought upon himself by the way he's handled the various issues surrounding the Football program. Eichorst may turn out to be a great AD, but he's got a lot to turn around and a short time to do it in if he wants history to consider his tenure a good one.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
I think Bowfin is probably talking about the original shooting of JR...not the reboot of the series...now...who knows who shot JR in the original series?

 
Bowfin said:
If a majority of Husker fans NOW realize that Bo had to go, then Shawn Eichorst was a man ahead of his time.

Bada-bing, bada-boom.
Click to expand...
A false dichotomy. In all probability, it wasn't Eichorst's call. Bo made it clear he wanted out, and Harvey gave Eichorst the word to show him the door. He was the go between for something independently agreed upon by the two warring sides.

I wish Eichorst would have been enough of "a man ahead of his time" to forgo the raise and contract extension of the man he was to soon fire, but no use crying over spilled cash.

Anyhow, I can't think of a more interesting season coming up than Nebraska in 2016 with the possible exception of waiting to see who shot J.R. Ewing.
Click to expand...
Not a false dichotomy, but your scenario is highly likely.

I was mostly debating the definition of "liar" and wondering why it didn't apply to the guy who secretly wanted the f•ck out of Nebraska while pretending he was all about loyalty.

I don't know who the bigger "snake" was. The whole thing is more like the frog who gave the scorpion a ride across the lake.

 
teachercd said:
I think Bowfin is probably talking about the original shooting of JR...not the reboot of the series...now...who knows who shot JR in the original series?
Click to expand...
Gotcha. I think it was Sue Ellen's sister from the original series, IIRC, but I was a bit young when I saw it. Something about J.R. knocked her up and she wanted to kill him for it?...I dunno, it's been a long-a$$ while.

Still maintain that Eichorst needs to change his ways and become more transparent and communicate more effectively if he's expected to have a shot in Lincoln. At the rate he's going...I could envision a scenario where Riley succeeds and Eichorst is still tossed out on his ear for the way he deals with the media, public, and boosters. I don't think the two are joined at the hip if Riley stumbles on success, but I do think they're linked if Riley throws up .500 seasons again...if that makes sense.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
If Eichorst had given a transparent statement about the inner workings of Bo Pelini, it certainly would have been a doozy.

Football program is in a gully at the moment, but the Athletic Department oversees 22 different teams, and Nebraska athletics as a whole seems to be on the upswing.

I guess we never held Devaney and Osborne's feet to the fire for the long slog of mediocrity that was/is Nebraska basketball.

 
If you say that BB is on the upswing (not saying it is), then why isn't TO credited?

In his 5 years he only hired the Miles, right? And pulled the trigger on Sadler after 6 years.

Reality is, good or bad, the effects an AD has on a program are usually time delayed, though you can certainly make some catastrophic decisions that are felt immediately.

 
cm husker said:
If you say that BB is on the upswing (not saying it is), then why isn't TO credited?

In his 5 years he only hired the Miles, right? And pulled the trigger on Sadler after 6 years.

Reality is, good or bad, the effects an AD has on a program are usually time delayed, though you can certainly make some catastrophic decisions that are felt immediately.
Click to expand...
So that was Tom Osborne who hired Tim Miles? A coach coming off a .447 career at Colorado State in the lowly Mountain West Conference?

The Tim Miles who went 15-18 in his first season at Nebraska for a 10th place Big 10 finish?

(you see where I'm going with this, right?)

 
Back
Top