For any fitness fanatics on this message board

[Junior]

Completely agree with this. Do not skimp on shoes.

Anyone having knee problems while running should check out chi running http://www.chirunning.com/ If you plan on running a lot I would recommend finding a running shoe store that can perform a gait analysis and get you into the right shoes. It makes a big difference.

Yes, if you want to run, getting the right shoe is critical.

I agree, but not to the point where it is too intimidating to start. Ideally you go to a shoe store that does a gait analysis, or at least the salesperson looks at you walk or run, and looks at the wear of your current shoe. If they don't do any of this, you are getting zero advice. The best shoe in the world for me might be totally wrong for you. I don't live in NE but my impression is that Lincoln Running Company knows how to fit shoes, but a typical big box sporting goods store may not.

http://www.rei.com/l...ning-shoes.html is a good place to educate yourself. You can tell a lot from the "wet foot" test and by looking at the wear of your current shoes.

And really, starting off at 2-3 miles 3 or 4 times a week, it's not absolutely vital to get the perfect shoe. You can make a guess based on the above article and adjust as see how it goes and (if) you add more miles. If you have pains, especially in the knees or back, it very well could be the shoes and then it's time for sure to get more expert advice. I'm just saying you can figure it out on your own, and even if you don't have to it's good to learn and know whether what the sales person says is making sense.

I stumbled onto my shoes by luck, Mizuno was giving them away for volunteers at a marathon. They worked well, but then I went into a local store known for their expertise and I know I got one of their most experienced salesmen. He said that shoe was too lightweight for me and suggested a couple others. I wound up trying both out and had problems. Switched back to my old model and felt a lot better, so I get that same model every ~500 miles. As I learned more about it I was more convinced that these shoes are right for me. I'm still trying to find the right trail shoe since the Inov8 I like has been discontinued. 26 marathons and ultras, btw, with more to come. I guess that bodybuilder would be surprised I'm still alive.

When I started running a lot, I had the wrong shoe and doing 4 miles killed my knees. I went to a free runner's clinic at a physical therapy group and they said "get the right shoe!", and since... I've only had minor problems during my marathon training. So I think even at low mileage, the right shoe is key. I agree, it shouldn't be intimidating, just go to a store that specializes in running shoes. They are typically managed by runners, and runners love to inflict their pain and suffering onto others I've found the Nike Air Pegasus to be awesome for me. I can take a pair out of the box and go run 10 miles without a worry.

Hell, after 26 marathons, I'm surprised you're still alive I'll probably never do another full. I think a half is a great distance, training for the full is just way too time consuming.

 

[sd'sker]

Not going against it, just pointing out something I experienced. Not agreeing or disagreeing with anything being said. Just making a comment.

a lot of everything is genetics, but i think the point is that you can do things to help or hurt your chances of a healthy, long life.

 

[BigRedBuster]

I know a guy who does the Bad Water Marathon. I think it is something like 130 miles over 3 mountain ranges and Death Valley in 120+ degree heat. He has done it for 3-4 years now. I think he does something like 10-15 marathons each year to lead up to it.

That is way too extreme.

 

[VA Husker Fan]

I know a guy who does the Bad Water Marathon. I think it is something like 130 miles over 3 mountain ranges and Death Valley in 120+ degree heat. He has done it for 3-4 years now. I think he does something like 10-15 marathons each year to lead up to it.

That is way too extreme.

Badwater is nuts. But many people who do races like that have addictive personalities and there are worse addictions to have (and some have had them) so it's not necessarily bad for them.

 

[Junior]

I know a guy who does the Bad Water Marathon. I think it is something like 130 miles over 3 mountain ranges and Death Valley in 120+ degree heat. He has done it for 3-4 years now. I think he does something like 10-15 marathons each year to lead up to it.

That is way too extreme.

Badwater is nuts. But many people who do races like that have addictive personalities and there are worse addictions to have (and some have had them) so it's not necessarily bad for them.

You should try the Himalayan 100

http://blip.tv/running-times/himalayan-100-5877390

 

[VA Husker Fan]

I know a guy who does the Bad Water Marathon. I think it is something like 130 miles over 3 mountain ranges and Death Valley in 120+ degree heat. He has done it for 3-4 years now. I think he does something like 10-15 marathons each year to lead up to it.

That is way too extreme.

Badwater is nuts. But many people who do races like that have addictive personalities and there are worse addictions to have (and some have had them) so it's not necessarily bad for them.

You should try the Himalayan 100

http://blip.tv/runni...yan-100-5877390

Eh, 5 days to finish, looks tough but I think I could do it. The Barkley Marathons, on the other hand ...

http://www.mattmahoney.net/barkley/

A friend of mine is running it this year. Another friend is actually one of the very few (13) who has finished it.

 

[BigRedBuster]

My brother helps this guy do Badwater. Last year a guy finished...slept for two hours...got up and ran back.

 

[Stumpy1]

The diet bit that you mention is a great point that is often neglected when discussing general fitness. A lot of people want to lose weight and/or tone up and think that by running, doing crunches, and other gym exercises for an hour a few days a week, they'll reach their goal. Well, while you may add muscle, diet is really where its at. I follow an intermittent fasting regimen that works for me, but any incremental improvements that you make to your diet can have an excellent effect on your overall health and body.

My diet is based around the amount of macros i that intake every 2-3 hrs. EX...I get up in the morning and consume 16g of fat with 45g of protein( 2 tablespoons of real peanut butter and 1/4 cup of egg whites), 2-3 hrs later, I consume 45g of protien and 20g of carbs, no fat, 2-3 hrs later, 8g of fat and 25g of protien( i will follow this one till I go to bed or till workout)...post workout is 50g of carbs and 50g of protien, 1-2 hrs later, it is 8g of fat, 20g of carbs and 50g of protien. 2-3hr later, I go back to the 8g of fat and 25g of protien till bed.

It goes like this everyday except on Saturdays, that day you want to eat as many carbs as possible for an 8 hr period and then go back to you eating plan. what this does is restores your glycogen levels back to normal and kicks your metabolism into high gear. you will actually start sweating when this happens and your muscles will "balloon out" also. It is a pretty neat feeling

 

[krc1995]

I have never done CF and I don't think I will. I have a routine that was given to me from a trainer and pro bodybuilder that I met through a friend and it has worked great. He told me that a person should only do about 20 mins of cardio, 3x a week and no more as it will start doing more harm then good. He said that going more then 20 mins will start having a reverse affect on your heart, kinda like lifting for a long period of time and your muscles can't take anymore cause of the acid build-up.

I know this isn't necessarily how you meant this but I had a personal chuckle with this comment. My father has been a major motivator for me in staying in shape. This is because he has always been the exact opposite. He is extremely over weight and has had health problems because of it. He never exercised his entire life and is now 78 years old and has problems getting around...etc. I want to be like my father in so many ways but physically is not one of them.

I remember a few years ago him sitting around with a group of people who really got into running. These people ran multiple marathons each year. All of a sudden he starts asking them if runners actually live longer...etc. He was implying that them exercising was ridiculous and really wasn't making them any healthier. They all just looked at him in amazement.

I understand what you are saying and the jury is really out on your statement. But, it reminded me of this moment.

I endorse the "don't run more than twenty minutes" mentality. As much as you're improving your cardiovascular fitness and burning calories, it really does start eating into your muscle and doesn't really tone or shape your body very much. The picture explains it all:

I fully endorse HIIT and sprint intervals.

The sprinter just looks happier the others just look miserable and bored.

 

[PuttinUp6]

CARDIO BLOWS.....that being said, its cardio/abs night tonight.....sigh

 

[HuskerShark]

You know, if you had to pick only 3 exercises that you could do, what would they be?

1. Pull ups

2. Push ups

3. Dead lifts (even though I hate them and never do that)

I think with those 3, you could probably hit most everything.

If you're only doing 3?

1. Push ups

2. Sit ups

3. Cardio of some type

Core strength is probably the most important aspect to being in shape. Your core helps you bend, twist, breathe, sit up, stand up straight, and on and on and on.

Not to hijak the thread more than I have, but situps would actually rank pretty far down on the list; there are so many better/more efficient exercises to work your core that will also benefit multiple other areas of your body (deadlifts, overhead squats,etc.).

Also, have to be a tad more specific than just cardio. To be honest, when I train for running races, I may only run two days a week, including race day. Getting a good kettlebell regime going not only greatly benefits cardio but will tone the hell out of a lot of your body, especially in areas that are oftentimes neglected.

There probably are for toning, but for just the casual person, cardio, push-ups, and situps and/or crunches are the essentials IMO. Obviously not everybody would agree, which is fine. There's just not a lot you could do with only 3 workouts.

And I agree with you on the cardio part. I am going for muscle gains, so going out and running a few miles would totally go against everything that I am trying to accomplish. But I still do want to cut some belly fat, so basketball is my go-to. Something short and explosive. Starting and stopping. Long distance running tends to get rid of muscle just as much as fat.

 

[BigRedBuster]

OK, something that has made me laugh for a long time.

Do any of you listen to 1620 sports radio in Omaha? I do via the internet.

Anyway, they run an ad for Physicians Directed Weight Loss. This ad comes up what seems like 20 times an hour. What I find funny about this is the guy who they got to do the ad sounds like he is about 60 years old, fat, smoker with a scotch in his hand.

Since I do some marketing for my company, I seem to pay attention to these things. BUT, this guys voice does nothing to make me want to call up and have that company help me lose weight.

Have any of you heard this and had the same thoughts?

 

[HuskerShark]

So to take this thread on a little different tangent, PRE WORKOUT SUPPLEMENTS!!!

This is what I am taking right now. It is incredible, but it makes my skin feel itchy and tingly, especially on my face.

Any other pre workouts that anybody has had any success with that I could try once this bottle runs out?

 

[lo country]

So to take this thread on a little different tangent, PRE WORKOUT SUPPLEMENTS!!!

This is what I am taking right now. It is incredible, but it makes my skin feel itchy and tingly, especially on my face.

Any other pre workouts that anybody has had any success with that I could try once this bottle runs out?

Scream from Body Building.com (crazy amount of caffeine 300 mg)

Proanox velocity (smooth with no crash) Their Genesis is awesome for joint pain

Scivation novem

I am interested in the atlarge nutrition pre-workout

I like scream and the atlarge as they specifically list the amount of each ingredient instead of some "blend" with numerous ingredients and stuff I can't pronounce.

The tingling you are feeling is from the Beta-Alanine (I love that feeling!)

On another note, for those looking at crossfit hybrids check out Grey Skull Linear or even Crossfit football or crossfit mayhem. They include the basic lifts with the traditional WODS or METCONS of CF. Also SPDcrossfit has the basic lifts with accessory lifts and then the WODS/METCONS.

Bottom line, do something.

 

[HuskerShark]

The tingling you are feeling is from the Beta-Alanine (I love that feeling!)

Yeah, it's not terrible except when I heap the scoop a little too much and it makes my face feel like my skin is about to peel off :lol:

My best friend works at a supplement store, so he gave me a free sample of Hyde to try and I liked the endurance it gave me so I bought some. Still love it except for when the tingly feeling is excessive. I guess I'm just looking to try new things.

And I will be surprised if the previous 2 sentences do not end up in the out of context quote thread....