Frost is returning for 2022

[BoNeyard]

You make some good points. I do agree with much of it. I do see it is a more difficult landscape to navigate today. But I also think today's coaches should be equipped to handle the current state of college football. The older coaches like Saban have shown how great of a coach they are because they have adapted to the new way of doing things and still been successful.

Agreed. Great coaches adapt and evolve with the game and any coach, if they are good enough, can find ways to win at any Power 5 school. I guess it's another baffling reason Frost hasn't worked here. On paper it was all there, he knew the program, he knew the state, he was a Nebraskan, he was a fan, he worked under and played for successful coaches, he himself was a successful head coach, how and why is it not working here? 

I guess maybe that is the question we have to discuss, why isn't Frost working out here? Is it only because he is a younger head coach and doesn't have that much experience as being a head coach? But the thing is even though Frost isn't winning on the field, it has felt like he has changed the culture for the better at Nebraska. These guys don't quit, they may make the same mistakes over and over and they may get the same results over and over, but they do not quit. They go out fighting in every game, and when the same result is a loss, it's amazing and great to see they still go out there and fight. There are so many other teams around the country that are either dumpster fires and it's clear the players have given up on their coach, or maybe their season isn't as bad as ours, but their guys don't play as hard as ours. I am actually amazed at how not once in the last couple years has it looked like our players have given up. That couldn't be said for a long time prior to Frost.

So in my mind, from what I can see, he has changed the culture for the better and the culture is there now. Yes we get talented guys transferring out, but that is the way of college football now. So if it is just in game lack of experience of being a head coach and in a conference like the grind that the Big Ten is, maybe Frost makes experienced hires this go around and it all starts to fall into place. Part of the growing pains you get from a head coach with not that much head coaching experience and coming from a non Power 5 conference. He brought his way here and it didn't work, hire the right guys who have the experience and see what they can do. Because if Frost can get this thing going, it could be an amazing thing for Nebraska. 

I'm running on here, but think of this too. If Frost ends up working out at Nebraska, imagine what will be said about us. That Nebraska gave Frost an unthinkable 5th year after 4 straight losing seasons, they gave him a 5th year and it started to click. It could make for the argument of patience for coaches and programs all over the place. But instead of being known as the program that has fired numerous coaches after 9 win seasons, it could be talked about that Nebraska finally learned their lesson to be patient and let things develop and grow and it can pay off. 

 

[The Dude]

I agree. Just making a bowl game with next years schedule is not really showing progress imo. For me, the floor for retention needs to be 8 wins, and really, 9 or 10 is needed to show true improvement trajectory.

Even if we fail to make 6-6, again, a huge portion of the fan base will still find a way to be okay with it. 

I've seen it to many years in a row now to think next year will be any different.

Talk about getting off Scott free.

 

[Enhance]

6 wins and a bowl game just isn’t enough in 2022.

It's odd when taking into context the last seven years of Husker football that six wins and a bowl game isn't good enough.

Maybe that's just semantics because I agree that it's not good enough in the sense of where we want the program to be... but shoot, it's certainly a massive accomplishment for the program, as tough of a pill as that is to swallow. Particularly when the last two new coaches we've hired have come in and been underwhelming in year one.

 

[lo country]

It's odd when taking into context the last seven years of Husker football that six wins and a bowl game isn't good enough.

Maybe that's just semantics because I agree that it's not good enough in the sense of where we want the program to be... but shoot, it's certainly a massive accomplishment for the program, as tough of a pill as that is to swallow. Particularly when the last two new coaches we've hired have come in and been underwhelming in year one.

We haven't been bowling now in 5 years....That roughly between 60-75 practices the kids have missed.  That'll be roughly 48-70 for Frost alone......yea. 6-6 is something I'd love to see next year. Do I think that is acceptable?  Hell no.  But is something we haven't seen in years. JoJo is the only guy on the roster that saw a bowl.  in 2016.......

 

[JJ Husker]

It's odd when taking into context the last seven years of Husker football that six wins and a bowl game isn't good enough.

Maybe that's just semantics because I agree that it's not good enough in the sense of where we want the program to be... but shoot, it's certainly a massive accomplishment for the program, as tough of a pill as that is to swallow. Particularly when the last two new coaches we've hired have come in and been underwhelming in year one.

In a sense, yes, it’s better than what we’ve accomplished recently. But Frost doesn’t get to win 6, make a bowl, and claim that’s satisfactory improvement. This year, 2021, is the year that Frost could’ve got by with 6 or 7 wins and called it improvement. Since he was undeservingly retained like that’s what happened, I’m going to pretend it did happen and expect/treat at least 8 wins next year as showing the needed improvement. It is a much easier schedule after all. I don’t care if that’s viewed as fair or not. I don’t think it is particularly fair or right that he was retained. It certainly wasn’t earned. I look at next years schedule and all I see is that 7 or less just isn’t good enough.

 

[Born N Bled Red]

My God, I don't know how some of you do it. Isn't the constant negativity and outrage exhausting? I mean, you all aren't even saying anything new. Its the same negative schtick over and over. 

Not saying that you should be satisfied with the the season or Frost's performance, but damn, the decision has been made. Now it just seems like sour grapes. 

 

[lo country]

In a sense, yes, it’s better than what we’ve accomplished recently. But Frost doesn’t get to win 6, make a bowl, and claim that’s satisfactory improvement. This year, 2021, is the year that Frost could’ve got by with 6 or 7 wins and called it improvement. Since he was undeservingly retained like that’s what happened, I’m going to pretend it did happen and expect/treat at least 8 wins next year as showing the needed improvement. It is a much easier schedule after all. I don’t care if that’s viewed as fair or not. I don’t think it is particularly fair or right that he was retained. It certainly wasn’t earned. I look at next years schedule and all I see is that 7 or less just isn’t good enough.

Here is what I don't get.  (not aimed at you).  What in the hell has anyone seen in 4 years that thinks next year will be easier......

ND-Win

Georgia Southern-Win

OU-Loss

Rutgers-Win 

Indiana-Win

NW- Toss up (Frost 2-2)

Michigan-Loss (Frost 0-2)

Minnie-Loss (Frost 1-3)

Wisky-Loss (Frost 0-3 to date)

Purdue-Loss (Frost 1-3)

Illinois-Loss (Frost is 1-3)

Iowa-Loss (Frost is 0-3 to date)

Unless Frost and the new crew pull their heads out of their collective a$$, I am unsure how this schedule is easier....We have losing records (or tie) against every school save Rutgers and Indiana......

New offensive staff, lose a lot of leadership on D........I just see nothing in the previous 3+ years that we can discount anyone......

Beating Wisky and Iowa can not be overstated for how HUGE this would be for the program moving forward.

 

[Huskers93-97]

In a sense, yes, it’s better than what we’ve accomplished recently. But Frost doesn’t get to win 6, make a bowl, and claim that’s satisfactory improvement. This year, 2021, is the year that Frost could’ve got by with 6 or 7 wins and called it improvement. Since he was undeservingly retained like that’s what happened, I’m going to pretend it did happen and expect/treat at least 8 wins next year as showing the needed improvement. It is a much easier schedule after all. I don’t care if that’s viewed as fair or not. I don’t think it is particularly fair or right that he was retained. It certainly wasn’t earned. I look at next years schedule and all I see is that 7 or less just isn’t good enough.

I’m with you and I think fans need to look at it from a different perspective. Instead of accepting the last 4 pathetic years as acceptable and give Frost a pass to start building now. We need to be saying the reason we fired Riley is because what he produced in W-L was not acceptable and Frost was brought here to improve that. He has gotten worse. We need to be asking ourselves when we hired Frost where did we expect the program to be in year 5. I would venture to say 90% of the fans would say winning the west for sure. Why would we lower our standards? It seems some fans have lowered our standards to what they think Frost can achieve instead of setting the standard based on what Nebraska football expects 

 

[JJ Husker]

Here is what I don't get.  (not aimed at you).  What in the hell has anyone seen in 4 years that thinks next year will be easier......

ND-Win

Georgia Southern-Win

OU-Loss

Rutgers-Win 

Indiana-Win

NW- Toss up (Frost 2-2)

Michigan-Loss (Frost 0-2)

Minnie-Loss (Frost 1-3)

Wisky-Loss (Frost 0-3 to date)

Purdue-Loss (Frost 1-3)

Illinois-Loss (Frost is 1-3)

Iowa-Loss (Frost is 0-3 to date)

Unless Frost and the new crew pull their heads out of their collective a$$, I am unsure how this schedule is easier....We have losing records (or tie) against every school save Rutgers and Indiana......

New offensive staff, lose a lot of leadership on D........I just see nothing in the previous 3+ years that we can discount anyone......

Beating Wisky and Iowa can not be overstated for how HUGE this would be for the program moving forward.

I get it but I refuse to consider past results or Frost’s history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I look at that schedule and can’t help but think there are 8 pretty easy wins. Of course that is making no allowances for Nebraska continuing to beat themselves. Heck just getting STs half way respectable adds 3 or 4 more wins this year. Fix red zone offense and we’re practically undefeated. I’m not going to lower my expectations just because we’ve been the short bus of CFB.

And I agree, Frost and crew need to pull their heads out their asses to do it. That may be a tall order but it certainly is not too much to expect.

 

[TheSker]

My God, I don't know how some of you do it. Isn't the constant negativity and outrage exhausting? I mean, you all aren't even saying anything new. Its the same negative schtick over and over. 

Not saying that you should be satisfied with the the season or Frost's performance, but damn, the decision has been made. Now it just seems like sour grapes. 

Meh ....there's not that many posters on this thread or even this site 

Let 'em rant 

 

[lo country]

I get it but I refuse to consider past results or Frost’s history of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. I look at that schedule and can’t help but think there are 8 pretty easy wins. Of course that is making no allowances for Nebraska continuing to beat themselves. Heck just getting STs half way respectable adds 3 or 4 more wins this year. Fix red zone offense and we’re practically undefeated. I’m not going to lower my expectations just because we’ve been the short bus of CFB.

And I agree, Frost and crew need to pull their heads out their asses to do it. That may be a tall order but it certainly is not too much to expect.

I look at the past, but then the fan in me kicks in and says no way we continue to defy mathematical probability and continue to lose 1 score games.  I also had a strong dislike for the O staff starting mid 2019.  Having even average coaches (and ST) has got to account for more wins.......It's just hard with all of the data to see Frost turning it around.  One thing I have yet to find about the 4 year+ failure coaches is how many kept their staffs intact vs a pretty huge change like Frost implemented.......

TBH, as a huge Ron Brown fan, I really think our O looks different Sat....

 

[Born N Bled Red]

I look at the past, but then the fan in me kicks in and says no way we continue to defy mathematical probability and continue to lose 1 score games.  I also had a strong dislike for the O staff starting mid 2019.  Having even average coaches (and ST) has got to account for more wins.......It's just hard with all of the data to see Frost turning it around.  One thing I have yet to find about the 4 year+ failure coaches is how many kept their staffs intact vs a pretty huge change like Frost implemented.......

TBH, as a huge Ron Brown fan, I really think our O looks different Sat....

I wish I could have the same hope, that our offense looks different on Saturday, as you.

I just don't think it will, unless the new line coach is a miracle worker. Running backs still need holes and room to run regardless who their coach is.

 

[BigRedBuster]

My God, I don't know how some of you do it. Isn't the constant negativity and outrage exhausting? I mean, you all aren't even saying anything new. Its the same negative schtick over and over. 

Not saying that you should be satisfied with the the season or Frost's performance, but damn, the decision has been made. Now it just seems like sour grapes. 

Nah…..I think If they all would post one more negative post……the world would start to be better. 

 

[Brandon.Lincoln]

Sweet a reduced buyout and fire next year. 

Yep! NU has paid the second most "dead money" in the country to fired staff since January 1, 2010 and has a new $155 million training complex to pay for so Trev is leveraging the fan's loyalty to save money.

 

[Hedley Lamarr]

Yep! NU has paid the second most "dead money" in the country to fired staff since January 1, 2010 and has a new $155 million training complex to pay for so Trev is leveraging the fan's loyalty to save money.

Shouldn't play with fan loyalty, far too many administrators have done that at NU. If Frost hires duds for his new O assistants you will have BOGO tickets all year.