Georgia Southern - What did we Learn?

[MdStine]

I can't remember what coach our commenter said it, but it went something like this, "Nebraska struggles to win games, because Nebraska expects to win games."

That is paraphrased, but I think there is truth to it.  The schools you mentioned (KSU, Iowa State, Iowa, etc) know that winning requires a whole lot of effort.  And for players to give that effort, they need to know that they need to work longer, harder, faster than the other teams if they want to win.  I think NU is a great job for any coach, but I also think because it is such a great job that players feel entitled and that winning just depends on who the coach is and whatever effort the players give should be "good enough".

Does that make sense?

I feel like I'm rambling...

Frost tells fans, and his players, that "the talent is there, we just need to execute"

Pelini said it too.

Callahan said it...

Riley probably made a comment like that also.

That doesn't make players hungry.  It allows the players to make excuses.  IMO.

"Frost tells fans, and his players, that "the talent is there, we just need to execute"

Pelini said it too.

Callahan said it...

Riley probably made a comment like that also"

From a credibility standpoint:

Pelini was correct 71% of the time

Callahan was correct 55% of the time

Riley was correct 50% of the time AND

Frost has been correct 34% of the time

It's the landscape of sports both professional and semi pro (NCAA), here is so much money to be had it has created a knee jerk over reach based on 1 good season.  Scott had a fluke year in 2017 at UCF with Jr's and Sr's that did not select UCF because of him.  Take out the 2017 season from his resume and look at the other 6 seasons his driving the bus stays on the road and out of the ditch 37% (22-38) of the time, not a bad percentage if he is going door to door selling aluminum siding but not as the face, leader and visionary for a team that generated revenue via wins with a reputation like Nebraska.

 

[Huskerfollower4life]

I don't know....

I guess seeing the DBS through up the "not today finger" after an incomplete pass frustrated me.  They got their asses kicked, and would still act like they were the reason the ball was thrown 6 yards off target.

My thoughts on last night, these kids don't realize how "not great" they are...

Exactly!!!! There should have been a speech at halftime about this team has nothing to celebrate. You score a td go to the sideline. You make a sack get back to line up. People might say that its being to harsh towards them bc its only a game but I would say at 1-2 as your record indicates are you truly happy your coach is about to get fired. 

 

[funhusker]

So, I’m not sure how we disagree. Telling the player he has the talent, he needs to be doing the right things, takes the talent excuse away. 
 

Now, doing the right things, might be filling the right hole. Or, it could mean spending more time watching film, or lifting weights, or simply trying harder when on the field….etc. 

I'm not sure we disagree either...

You were the one that came after my post like it was crazy.

Good news, it's just in your execution of reading posts.  Easy fix!  :lol:

 

[Ggodd002]

Okay, wow...

My point is that if players are continually told they are good enough, they might think it's an easy fix.  Just fix execution.

Meanwhile, all these "small" schools (at least the ones NU fans look down upon) are playing with a chip on their shoulders and going above and beyond in effort AND execution.

I know I'm not a wordsmith, but not sure why what I said was so complicated.

You are not wrong. Kids need to be motivated. This coaching staff has never done that 

 

[Hayseed]

I’m nervous that some of these players we’ve recruited will leave-namely our quarterback. 
I hope not.  If by chance Scott decided to resign or is fired would Mickey Joseph be the interim head coach? 

You would think so. I'm thinking since Whipple has been coaching for about 100 years you might also have him take over as interim DC....or maybe move Busch to DC but wasn't he standing there watching that 640 yard nightmare happen?

I just fear that neither of the pass-happy coaches Joseph or Whipple would properly use our biggest weapons, the running backs. Maybe Applewhite should be the interim?

 

[Dr. Strangelove]

The only thing we really learned was that, finally, the fan base realizes Frost isn't the guy. It makes moving on easy.

Had Nebraska finished 5-7 or 6-6, a sizeable portion of the fan base would've wanted to keep him.  At least we don't have to worry about that anymore. 

 

[Bigred_inSD]

You would think so. I'm thinking since Whipple has been coaching for about 100 years you might also have him take over as interim DC....or maybe move Busch to DC but wasn't he standing there watching that 640 yard nightmare happen?

I just fear that neither of the pass-happy coaches Joseph or Whipple would properly use our biggest weapons, the running backs. Maybe Applewhite should be the interim?

Wherever Applewhite ends up next year will get a very good addition in Allen from the portal 

 

[irafreak]

I’m nervous that some of these players we’ve recruited will leave-namely our quarterback. 
I hope not.  If by chance Scott decided to resign or is fired would Mickey Joseph be the interim head coach? 

Why? Why do you fear anything at this point? Every single kid could transfer out and we field a completely new team with a new coach and what....we don't win 1 game? He'll I don't see how we win more than 1 this year.

What's the difference. Blow it all up and we can't do much worse. I'd argue that it may be easier to start with all new players that don't have years of a losing mentality. 

 

[Undone]

I think I drank too much last night.

 

[MyBloodIsRed16]

#0 might have had the worst game I've ever seen a defensive back play.

Nah.  Lamar Jackson had some real stinkers

 

[MdStine]

I have never understood Frost’s “No fear of failure” culture is at the very heart of some of it.   One thing you can say confidently about all 5 of Frost’s teams is they don’t fear failure.  As matter of fact, they seem to enjoy it as it’s practically a habit.  They find new ways to fail weekly.  Just baffling honestly. 

Perhaps Scott's real career future is as the Spokesmodel for "Ignorance is Bliss" .... it ain't at the NCAA or NFL level as the HC

 

[Bigred_inSD]

#0 might have had the worst game I've ever seen a defensive back play.

Yeah. He can go back to the portal too.  Bunch of holds, burnt toast, and missed that INT.  

 

[CC Eagle]

Hey everyone... Not here to pile on. Just wanted to say it was a hell of a game.

Us Georgia Southern fans honestly don't know what we just saw. We've had a couple of coaches try to be more pro style or pass-heavy, but we've never had it come together so quickly or seen it work so well. In nearly every other season of GS football, the couple of minutes left for the last drive would have been met with quick pitches to the boundary that everyone expected and lame duck throws downfield hoping for a miracle.

If it's any consolation, we've got Wisconsin on the schedule next year. I hope to put this game out of everyone's mind while jumping around on the Badgers.

 

[MyBloodIsRed16]

I learned #2 for GA S is a pretty good football player.  I learned Grant is still a dude and hope #5's brain is ok because he got knocked out.

 

[UniversalMartin]

I don't know....

I guess seeing the DBS through up the "not today finger" after an incomplete pass frustrated me.  They got their asses kicked, and would still act like they were the reason the ball was thrown 6 yards off target.

My thoughts on last night, these kids don't realize how "not great" they are...

Lol...when they do that, I immediately think, "you didn't f'ing do anything!"

There was one specifically in the 4th Q (believe it was their gw drive)