Gun Control

commando said:
i want to hear about liberal proposals to help keep guns out of the hands of the insane and the conservative plans to do so.   last plans i've remember being  implemented was obama passing a law that was suppose to help federal agencies share info on people who shouldn't have guns.  it was rather weak but it was what he could get bipartisan support for.    trump then eliminated that rule to great fanfare from the right and the NRA and how it helped protect our freedoms.    trump then did ban bump stocks (which i agreed with).  to me it seems that the liberals are more interested in trying to keep the efficient killing machines out of the hands of the violent criminals while the far right and NRA want to let EVERYONE have guns.    
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It's been mentioned over the last few pages so I won't replay.  

My stance is there's a mental illness problem in the US as well as a cultural issue.  Both are leading to gun violence.  You then have action complexity as you try to preserve freedom, enhance safety, protect a Constitution, and propose/execute truly differentiated measures.  

That's the framing above.  It simply isn't easy in any facet.  

 
DefenderAO said:
It's been mentioned over the last few pages so I won't replay.  

My stance is there's a mental illness problem in the US as well as a cultural issue.  Both are leading to gun violence.  You then have action complexity as you try to preserve freedom, enhance safety, protect a Constitution, and propose/execute truly differentiated measures.  

That's the framing above.  It simply isn't easy in any facet.  
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can someone who has read the last 30 pages since yesterday sum it up  for me?    i am only here for lunchtime today.

 
commando said:
can someone who has read the last 30 pages since yesterday sum it up  for me?    i am only here for lunchtime today.
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The US is the only country with mental health issues due to trans citizens here which no other countries have because we're not Christian enough even though the vast majority of mass shootings were done by straight white presumably Christian identifying males.  

 
DefenderAO said:
I posted a direct study on suicide rates from already-transitioned people after you posted your feelings that, once transitioned, they're now better.  There is still a root issue the transitioning is not solving.  

The standing answer is scrolled down the main HB page and saw post activity on a topic I've thought through - Gun Control.  I've discussed the topic on other boards with similar vehemence and disgust to the depraved shooters.
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Answer the questions I posed, please. Or just stop posting. Please. 

Also, you're wrong, Part XLVII

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423

 
DefenderAO said:
And sometimes the mentally ill play dress up and have gender dysphoria.
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Sometimes people play dress up, enjoy themselves, and hurt absolutely no one. 

Sometimes the shooters come from God-fearing homes with traditional moral values, a respect for the Second Amendment, and the guns to prove it.

What's you're point? Really?

I mean, we all know where you're going at this point, but watching you writhe around in self-justifying horses#!t is vaguely fascinating. 

 
DefenderAO said:
Did you read the study I presented you?  

I suspect you'd like any contrarian to stop posting.  I appreciate the conversation and am not emotional or offended by what you bring.  I'll stick.
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FFS. I just provided the link that does a much better job of addressing the specific issue than your study.

Did you read it? No?

Don't bother scrolling back, I'll repost it here:

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/278942 

Feel free to answer the previous questions:

Do you think homosexuality is a mental illness and that homosexuals can never be as happy as heterosexuals?

Did you believe in Santa Clause as a child?  

 
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