HSKRNOKC

[zoogs]

That's what I feel we have here, right now with the leadership team. We are going away from "dropping the hammer" immidiately on members. We must have a few patience and treat people with respect. We as a team are starting to understand that, I don't feel we are anywhere we need to be, but the more we focus on it the better results we will see. I don't feel Mike has the right temperment.

As one of the new members to this team, I think this (bolded especially) is the sort of context that I don't really know much about, and it would be great if you could sort of expound on that a little. From my perspective, I haven't ever really seen an 'old way of doing things' and to me, as a new mod, you guys are all the 'Old Crew' and we're just the new kids that are getting to be a part of this. I include Mike in that group as well and regard him with the same respect as I'd regard the rest of you with - as crusty old farts the vets that have been around together for a long time ( )

The way I've seen it is, as moderators we all share the same job description. How we go about doing it is just everyone's own style or preference and there've always been/will be different styles. In the short time I was around when all of this was first going down, I don't know if I got a chance to really feel this 'different direction' that we were moving into. I felt that Mike's problem was more with the fact that we were being steered in a direction and he felt too reigned in by that. I haven't felt reigned in at all, but just philosophically, I can sort of see where he's coming from. Mods shouldn't have to be given marching orders or team philosophy pep talks. On the other hand, the admin side of it is obviously right too: mods shouldn't be renegades, and we should be operating on the same page.

One thing I always hate to see on a message board is drama with the mods (or admins). So I'm always of the opinion that things should be mended if possible. I see this as a situation where Mike seems willing to give it a go; if you could find out directly from him that he's willing to work within the confines you are comfortable with, why not?

I want to stress though, that I'm only voicing a small opinion, and completely defer to this as your call. It's not something that I'm going to get upset about. The bottom line is that you've gotta be comfortable with the people you have as mods, and if you aren't, then that's that. But I think I have a hard time seeing this as a 'getting guys who fit the system' move, so much as a 'There's problems between Mike and Eric.' I respect and look up to both you guys, so I won't take sides. I just hate to see things like that and hope it can get worked out.

 

[rawhide]

Thanks zoogies,

you stated that much more eloquent and succinct than I ever could.

rick

 

[DJR313]

Eric, I think you and Chad have earned the right to have final say over this board, regardless of your recent participation level. I support the decision rendered based on the rationale. Mike doesn't need to be a moderator to be a vital and contributing member of this board. If he feels he can only be here as a moderator, then that proves that not allowing him to be a moderator again is the best move. It isn't like he is being shown the door. I was a regular member for 5+ years before being called up, probably because my propensity to blast people for being morons has lessened in the recent years, or "dropping the hammer" on a user level. Approaching people with a calm and courtesy demeanor when they get out of line for this gig is not a ridiculous request, and something that we all seem to employ very well. Different styles are present, but we have a good team that seems to buy into the same philosophy. That is a building block for success. I like Mike, but if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. I hope he chooses to remain an integral part of this board, because he is a valued member.

 

[I See Red People]

Eric, I think you and Chad have earned the right to have final say over this board, regardless of your recent participation level. I support the decision rendered based on the rationale. Mike doesn't need to be a moderator to be a vital and contributing member of this board. If he feels he can only be here as a moderator, then that proves that not allowing him to be a moderator again is the best move. It isn't like he is being shown the door. I was a regular member for 5+ years before being called up, probably because my propensity to blast people for being morons has lessened in the recent years, or "dropping the hammer" on a user level. Approaching people with a calm and courtesy demeanor when they get out of line for this gig is not a ridiculous request, and something that we all seem to employ very well. Different styles are present, but we have a good team that seems to buy into the same philosophy. That is a building block for success. I like Mike, but if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. I hope he chooses to remain an integral part of this board, because he is a valued member.

This.

I, as stated earlier, look up to Mike as a person. However, I agree with Eric's philosophical approach to moderating. I guess it just fits my style. ETR knows Mike's view on things more than we do, and has stated that he is not on the same page. I think it may just be as simple as that. Nothing good or bad, just a 'square peg round hole' thing.

 

[BIGREDIOWAN]

This is just as difficult for me as anyone. I just don't have an answer right now.

Thanks this helps Eliot.

Here's where I'm coming from. Why would we want to ruin a great thing right now? I'm having similiar thoughts to what Herb Brooks was thinking during the 1980 hockey tryouts. He left off some of the best players for people "that fit the system." That's what I feel we have here, right now with the leadership team. We are going away from "dropping the hammer" immidiately on members. We must have a few patience and treat people with respect. We as a team are starting to understand that, I don't feel we are anywhere we need to be, but the more we focus on it the better results we will see. I don't feel Mike has the right temperment. I used to cut people loose just as Mike and any other mod was doing. I'm not saying we don't still do that because sometimes it's necessary, I'm totally behind you, but other times I want to see tact, transparent, polite, and cordial replies when a member falls out of line. Mike made it very clear he does not agree with that type of moderating and feels things were better doing it the old school way. We are simply going in a different direction. He has done some great work here and I don't want to forget that so when we are able to send out some Husker gear to you guys I would be happy to include him in the purchases.

I know some of you are upset and feel I don't have a leg to stand on because I haven't been around much at all and you'r 100% accurate. I haven't, but plan to after the first week in August when the season starts up and I'm officially done with my schooling. Please believe me, this board is like my child, I have over 11,000 posts, I, like all of you, have put tons of hours in. I can't wait to get back to it. You guys have done some amazing things and I appreciate the heck out of it.

Please feel free to reply, PM me, email me directly > ewicher@hotmail.com or I guess now facebook. If you have concerns or just feel insulted by what I have said, please let me know, don't let it build up. I'm willing to consider all feedback and want to do my best to keep this as democratic as I can.

Try 19,390 posts big guy............bad timing? Probably..............worth it?...........hell yes! :lol:

 

[rawhide]

I let Mike know about the decision last night. This morning he had emailed me back and told me thanks for the effort. He mentioned he didn't understand the logic behind the decision. He also stated he would move on; hence the status thingie that says "stick a fork in me". He said he's not bitter but I don't see him continuing to post much now. $.02

GBR

Rick

 

[DJR313]

That's too bad, but if he feels he can only be a contributing member of this board as a moderator, maybe it is best he moves on. I wish him no ill will and hope everything works out for him and his family in the future.